Christmas trees in houses of Sikhs

[Jivan76 62]

FOR THE RECORD

I DO NOT AND NEVER HAVE CELEBRATED ANY FESTIVAL RELATED LOOSELY OR FIRMLY WITJ ANY RELIGION OTHER THAN SIKHISM. I AM HOWEVER A GURSIKH WHO FIRMLY BELIEVES IN CHARASI LAKH JHOON AND ACCORDINGLY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUE WHATSOEVER WITH ANY PERSON CLAIMING TO BE A SIKH WHO ENJOYS THE WINTER PERIOD FOR ITS COMMUNITY SPIRIT. IF THAT INCLUDES A CHRISTMAS TREE THEN SO BE IT. AS LONG AS I AM NOT ASKED OR PRESSURED INTO PARTAKING IN SUCH ACTIVITIES OR THESE ACTIVITIES ARE NOT ATTEMPTED TO BE JUSTIFIED THROUGH GURMAT THEN I CONSIDER IT NONE OF MY BUSINESS.

If there is anyone on this forum who will show me a post contrary to the sentiments stated above I will apologise in person and accept the punishment that that Gursikh suggests.

NOW FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MISSPOKEN.

REREAD MY OR YOUR OWN AND ASK YOURSELVES WHAT YOU ARE ARGUING ABOUT. WHAT AXE DO YOU HAVE TO GRIND AGAINST FEEBLE GURSIKHS LIKE ME AND THE OTHER UNFORTUNATES LIKE ME??

Bhullà sab tò hòjandià ne parh saadià baksh deyo ji

[Jivan76 62]

Jivan ji

I thought you had quit the forum as written in another thread. It is good to see you again.

Bhaiji Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I was thinking the same right now lol.

Your final reply gave me the strength.

There are many fools here that demand from others the things they are not capable of themselves!!!

Gurbani will give us mukhti.

But gyan is something these fools are incapable of comprehending.

Bhaiji GPS i've not been a member of this forum long but feels like all i've been doing is defending a position that I haven't actually taken lol.

[JSinghnz 1,086]

I wouldn't want my kid to feel confused and left out while everyone, including non-SIkh Punjabis celebrating a holiday while they aren't.

How difficult is for you to make your kid understand that Sikhs do not celebrate Christmas?

There are a million other ways to celebrate a holiday other than aping other cultures.

[Singh559 2,653]

How difficult is for you to make your kid understand that Sikhs do not celebrate Christmas?

There are a million other ways to celebrate a holiday other than aping other cultures.

How difficult is it for you to be creative and not sacrifice Gurmat and still celebrate the holidays? Also, if you didn't read my post, who's to say we can't change Christmas to Sikhmas?

Is that anti-Gurmat? :lol2:

[JSinghnz 1,086]

How difficult is it for you to be creative and not sacrifice Gurmat and still celebrate the holidays? Also, if you didn't read my post, who's to say we can't change Christmas to Sikhmas?

Is that anti-Gurmat? :lol2:

We have got heaps of our Purabs to celebrate. We do not need others' celebrations to turn them into our celebrations.

[Singh559 2,653]

We have got heaps of our Purabs to celebrate. We do not need others' celebrations to turn them into our celebrations.

What you need and I need aren't the same.

[Jivan76 62]

What you need and I need aren't the same.

Finally the simple TRUTH.

TRUTH remember??

What our Sikhi is about.

[Jivan76 62]

What you need and I need aren't the same.

Thank you Bhaaji.

Hopefully people will understand rather than just read that ONE sentence.

Simple yet profound.

Waheguru

[VanHelsingh 1,984]

...Brothers and Sisters, next time you celebrate Chrismas, remember our Sahibzadas who became Shaheed during the same time you are joyfully celebrating Christmas. How can any Sikh of Guru Gobind Singh Jee be joyful or happy at that time of the year is beyond my understanding.

I'm not against anyone celebrating or even casually observing the upcoming festivities, but as a Sikh once you realise what occurred during Sikh history when the rest of the world is celebrating Christmas, I don't see how any Sikh can bring themselves to raise a smile at that time of year. I'm always rather sad during Christmas in recent years. I don't want to be that way, but I can't help it when you think of all that happened to us a few hundred years ago. Dark times and the dard can be felt rather strongly.

[JSinghnz 1,086]

What you need and I need aren't the same.

That is the reason why Sikhs are so confused today and pass their confusion to their kids too.

[Jonny101 4,386]

Gyan comes not from Gurbani alone but from Gurbani and life experience. Hence the essentiality of Ghristi jivan.

Bhul chuk maaf kardeyo

:no: that alone explains a lot about you. ਭਾਈ ਆਪਣੇ life experience ਦੀਆਂ ਸਿਆਣਫਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਛੱਡ

ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਿਚ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹੈ: ਸਹਸ ਸਿਆਣਪਾ ਲਖ ਹੋਹਿ ਤ ਇਕ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਨਾਲਿ ॥

ਤੇਰੀਆਂ ਜਿਨੀਆਂ ਵੀ ਫੋਕੀਆਂ ਸਿਆਣਫਾਂ ਨੇ, ਉਹ ਕਿਸੇ ਕਮ ਦੀ ਨਹੀ ਤੇ ਨਾਹੀਂ ਤੇਰੇ ਕਿਸੇ ਕਮ ਆਉਣਗੀਆਂ

ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਰੂਪ ਹੈ ਤੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਤੋਂ ਹੀ ਗਿਆਨ ਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ, ਹਾਂ ਜੇ ਤੂੰ ਆਪਣੇ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਯਸੂ (Jesus) ਤੇ ਉਸ ਦੀ ਬਾਈਬਲ ਤੋਂ ਗਿਆਨ ਲੈਣਾ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਬੇਸ਼ਕ ਲੈ ਪਰ ਫਿਰ ਤੂ "ਨਾ ਘਰ ਦਾ ਨਾ ਘਾਟ ਦਾ"

[username1 30]

The Christmas holiday is actually a pagan festival incorporated into Christianity my guess is it was engreza di lohri (winter solstice). Jesus was born in the spring times which would be more near vaisakh.

Muslims hate christmas and feel it's unislamic and in the spirit of antagonizing the antagonists it should give you even more reason to keep a Christmas tree. The true spirit of christmas is giving, which can be done in the forms of daan, sewa, charity, philanthropy aswell as looking into goodwill for other human beings.

[Jonny101 4,386]

Quote my post!!!!!

Quote my post where I have compared Sikhi to ANYTHING at all!!!!!!!

Christmas or otherwise.............

Any comparison........

Your imagination like that of your little cohorts has your emotions in a jumble.

Read anything you like but comprehension is a gift. Maybe some true christian will get it for you at christmas......

Bhul chuk maaf kardeyo parh bhout kehhar jareha hai

You are the one who equated celebrating Bandi chod divas a holiday related to Guru Sahibaan with Christmas. For a Sikh Christmas means nothing!!! but Bandi Chod Divas means everything since it is a day linked with Guru Jee.

[Jonny101 4,386]

The Christmas holiday is actually a pagan festival incorporated into Christianity my guess is it was engreza di lohri (winter solstice). Jesus was born in the spring times which would be more near vaisakh.

Muslims hate christmas and feel it's unislamic and in the spirit of antagonizing the antagonists it should give you even more reason to keep a Christmas tree.

how does it being Pagan make it okay? Hindus are the pagans of India, they also have religious festivals relating to plants and trees(ex Tulsi), animals(monkeys, elephants). Does that make it okay for Sikhs to celebrade Hindu Pagan holidays?

[username1 30]

how does it being Pagan make it okay? Hindus are the pagans of India, they also have religious festivals relating to plants and trees(ex Tulsi), animals(monkeys, elephants). Does that make it okay for Sikhs to celebrade Hindu Pagan holidays?

Sikhs are pagans in accordance to some muslims some like to call us book worshipers.