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Yes, it's great sewa and I liked that you told them that your approaching them was not aimed at converting them but to bring awareness of Sikhism to them.

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Good work. Sikhs have been victims of massive ignorance since the last decade. Moves like this will help counter that ignorance.

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Good initiative but please stop saying that Bhagats were Hindus or Muslims. You can please non Sikhs by saying it but its simply not true.

What do you mean by that? If Bhagats were not Hindus or Muslims, who were they?

Or you are trying to rewrite history?

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You talk big of history, have you read history? Read the Meharban Janamsakhi which names the Bhagats and how they met Guru Ji and accepted him. You are the one trying to rewrite history by saying Bhagats were Hindus or Muslims.

Bani says Hindu Anna Turku Kana. Na Hum Hindu Na Musalman. EVERY single author in Guru Granth Sahib was united under one mindset, this applies to the Gurus, Bhagats, Sikhs, Bhatts.

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You talk big of history, have you read history? Read the Meharban Janamsakhi which names the Bhagats and how they met Guru Ji and accepted him. You are the one trying to rewrite history by saying Bhagats were Hindus or Muslims.

Bani says Hindu Anna Turku Kana. Na Hum Hindu Na Musalman. EVERY single author in Guru Granth Sahib was united under one mindset, this applies to the Gurus, Bhagats, Sikhs, Bhatts.

Are you naive or pretending to be one?

Just for your revision,

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Authors & Contributors

The writings of the Gurus appears chronologically. Each of the Gurus signed their hymns as Nanak. Their compositions are identified by the numerals at the beginning of each hymn, ie. Mahalla 1 is Guru Nanak, Mahalla 2 is Guru Angad and so on. These are then followed by those of other saints (Bhagtas) and other contributors. Their are 3,384 hymns found in the Guru Granth Sahib broken down by author are:

The Gurus

Guru Nanak: 974 hymns including sloks and pauris

Guru Angad: 62 sloks

Guru Amar Das: 907 hymns including sloks and pauris

Guru Ram Das: 679 hymns including sloks and pauris

Guru Arjan: 2,218 hymns including sloks and pauris

Guru Tegh Bahadur: 59 hymns and 56 sloks

Guru Gobind Singh: 1 slok

The Bhagatas: Saints of various faiths

Kabir: 292 hymns Bhagat Kabir (1398 to 1495) was born to a Brahmin mother and raised by a muslim step mother. Bhagat Kabir was a proponent of the Bhakti movement. He lived as a householder, abhored the caste system and religious rituals. He was an saintly apostle of peace, love and unity and a great poet. Bhagat Kabir believed in inward purity, and was respected by both Hindus and Muslims.

Namdev: 60 hymns Bhagat Namdev (1270 to 1350) was a celebrated saint from Maharashtra who travelled extensively across the country. He lived in Punjab for a number of years.

Ravidas: 41 hymns A contemporary of Bhagat Kabir and a disciple of Bhagat Ramanand, Bhagat Ravidas represents the culmination of the Bhakti Movement. He came from a low caste cobbler family but had many desciples because of his spirituality. He stressed a life of simplicity and piety.

Sheikh Farid: 4 hymns and 130 sloks Sheikh Farid (1175 to 1265) was a muslim Sufi saint of great piety. He is considered the father of Punjabi poetry. He was greatly loved for his kindness and humanity. He stressed living a simple yet purposeful life concentrating on One God.

Trilochan: 4 hymns A contemporary of Bhagat Kabir and a celebrated sain of the Vaish caste. He believed in One God and condemned superficial rituals and stressed the holiness of the heart.

Dhanna: 4 hymns Bhagat Dhanna was a Jat from Rajasthan who was born in 1415. He lived most of his life as an idol worshipper but in later years became a worshipper of One God and renounced all superstitious practices.

Beni: 3 hymns Probobly a contemporary of Bhagat Namdev, not much is known about him. He was unperturbed by poverty and enjoyed a life of solitude enriched by his spiritual persuits. He was a great scholar as is evident from his writings.

Sheikh Bhikan: 2 hymns A muslim Sufi scholar saint Sheikh Bhikan died in the early part of Akbar's reign. He was one of the most learned men of his time. He believed that only God's name can heal a diseased mind and body.

Jaidev: 2 hymns Bhagat Jaidev was a renowned poet laureate in the royal court of king Lakshman Sen of Bengal. His famous work of peotry Gita Govinda is well known for its poetic beauty and musical richness.

Surdas: 1 hymn Bhagat Surdas was a Brahmin born in 1529. He was learned in Sanskrit and Persian and studied music and poetry. He was appointed a governor by emperor Akbar, but was later imprisoned for dereliction of duty. Towards the end of his life, he became a hermit and lived among holy men.

Parmanand: 1 hymn Born in Maharashtra, little is known about Bhagat Parmanand's life. It is believed that he lived in Maharashtra and was aotee of Krishna. He later became a proponent of One God.

Pipa: 1 hymn Born in 1425, Bhagat Pipa was the king of the princely state of Gagaraungarh. He abducated his throne, travelled extensively and became a disciple of Bhagat Ramanand. He lived a life of extreme austerity and humility.

Ramanand: 1 hymn Bhagat Ramanand, a Brahmin was born in 1359 in Madras. He is regarded as the pioneer of the Bhakti movement in northern India. A Vaishnava in his early life, he became a worshipper of brahm and condemned the caste system. Bhagat Kabir was the most renowned amongst his disciples.

Sadhna: 1 hymn A butcher by profession, Bhagat Sadhana was born in Sind. His piety and meditation of God elevated him to saintly status. He was condemned by Brahmins and on a false charge was arrested and buried alive.

Sain: 1 hymn Bhagat Sain was a barber of the royal court of Raja Ram, king of Rewa. He was a follower of Bhagat Ramanand and Bhagat Kabir.

The Bhatts

The Bhatts were a group of musicians who lived in the sixteenth century. All of them were scholars, poets and singers.

Kal: 49 Swayyas

Kalsahar: 4 Swayyas

Tal: 1 Swayya

Jalap: 4 Swayyas

Jal: 1 Swayya

Kirat: 8 Swayyas

Sal: 3 Swayyas

Bhal: 1 Swayya

Nal: 6 Swayyas

Bhikha: 2 Swayyas

Jalan: 2 Swayyas

Das: 1 Swayya

Gayand: 5 Swayyas

Sewak: 7 Swayyas

Mathura: 10 Swayyas

Bal: 5 Swayyas

Harbans: 2 Swayyas

Sikhs

Mardana: 3 sloks Baba Mardana was a rabab (rebeck) player who spent most of his life as a disciple and musician of Guru Nanak. Born a Muslim, Baba Mardana was a childhood friend of Guru Nanak and accompanied him on all his great travels.

Satta and Balwand: 1 // Satta was a rebeck player who served Guru Angad, Guru Amar Das, Gur Ram Das and Guru Arjun. Along with his fellow musician Balwand they jointly composed a ballad which appears in the Guru Granth Sahib.

Sunder: 1 hymn Baba Sunder (1560-1610) was the great grandson of Guru Amar Das. His composition called Sadd (Calling) was written at the request of Guru Arjun after the death of Guru Ram Das.

http://www.sikhs.org/granth2.htm

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Funny, are you so uneducated in Sikhi that your taking websites as sources? Get educated brother, ignorance is not good.

Bhagats were contemponaries of the Gurus. As I said read Meharban Janamsakhi, do you even know what that is or whom its written by?

Waheguru bless our qaum with people like JSinghnz, who always are first ones to condemn Moneh but haven't read ONE puratan Granth.

The bhagats met Jagat Guru Nanak in Ayodhya, theres a Gurdwara there too.

Sikhs.org is not a puratan source. You can't get knowledge about Sikhi by reading a few sites only, deep knowledge in the Puratan scriptures and the Granths is needed along with critical thinking.

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Funny, are you so uneducated in Sikhi that your taking websites as sources? Get educated brother, ignorance is not good.

Bhagats were contemponaries of the Gurus. As I said read Meharban Janamsakhi, do you even know what that is or whom its written by?

Waheguru bless our qaum with people like JSinghnz, who always are first ones to condemn Moneh but haven't read ONE puratan Granth.

The bhagats met Jagat Guru Nanak in Ayodhya, theres a Gurdwara there too.

Sikhs.org is not a puratan source. You can't get knowledge about Sikhi by reading a few sites only, deep knowledge in the Puratan scriptures and the Granths is needed along with critical thinking.

We are so fortunate that our panth has been lucky to have a learned scholar like SevadaarEKhalsa who will educate

ignorant people like me. I am so pleased that you have read a Puratan scripture which has now made you an authority in Sikh history.

Please enlighten us all on how Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan ceased to be Muslims and when.

We could then all nominate you for getting the Nobel Prize in History for discovering something which the

whole world is unaware of so far.

Focus your critical thinking on the topic being discussed here and keep your monah stuff for some other discussion.

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We are so fortunate that our panth has been lucky to have a learned scholar like SevadaarEKhalsa who will educate

ignorant people like me. I am so pleased that you have read a Puratan scripture which has now made you an authority in Sikh history.

Please enlighten us all on how Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan ceased to be Muslims and when.

We could then all nominate you for getting the Nobel Prize in History for discovering something which the

whole world is unaware of so far.

Focus your critical thinking on the topic being discussed here and keep your monah stuff for some other discussion.

I would say probably we need a new topic on this subject, but here are just some example Bhagat Baani's

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Naan Hum Hindu Naan Musalmaan, Allah Raam ke pind paran.

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Kahe Kabir jan bhaye Khalse, raam bhagat teh jaani.

Bhagat Naamdev Jee - Hindu Anna, turku kaana, dohan te giani seyana.

both of the above bhagat's are supposed to be from the Hindu clan, but bhagat's deny it !!!

Similarly, none of the bhagat's popularised as Muslim Bhagat's are in fact Muslims. Read back the historical/socialogical books, people from all faiths used to come to these Peers/Saints. My opinion is once these people so high in spiritual state reach one almighty god, religion concept goes away.

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You are truly ignorant. Right from 17th century in MEHARBAN JANAMSAKHI till Gyani Gurdit Singhs book Bhagat Bani Ithas recently it has been TIME TO TIME proven again that JAGAT Guru Nanak gave Naam to Bhagats and they were his disciples.

Read some Puratan books. Reading one is better than none brother, and take the good stuff out of it. Ignorance is condemned in Gurbani in the harshest possible ways.

You read few articles on Internet with made up birth date of Bhagats (made up in the 20th century by authors like Max Macauliffe) and your the scholar? Don't base your Sikhi gyan on Internet only, there is alot of inaccuracies out there by the Nangs Missionaries etc.

Read Bhagat Bani ithas with several proofs. Old manuscrips mention Bhagat Kabir and Namdev being Guru Nanak Sahibs disciples, the photocopies of the manuscripts are recorded. Meeting with Bhagat Kabir are well known and three Gurdwaras commorate their meetings (Amarkantak, Ayodhya etc).

And Mona topic is justified as you are no one to judge the personal relationship of a Sikh and his Guru. Instead of criticising monas you should read more on Sikh history (no sarcasm).

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I would say probably we need a new topic on this subject, but here are just some example Bhagat Baani's

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Naan Hum Hindu Naan Musalmaan, Allah Raam ke pind paran.

Bhagat Kabir Jee - Kahe Kabir jan bhaye Khalse, raam bhagat teh jaani.

Bhagat Naamdev Jee - Hindu Anna, turku kaana, dohan te giani seyana.

both of the above bhagat's are supposed to be from the Hindu clan, but bhagat's deny it !!!

Similarly, none of the bhagat's popularised as Muslim Bhagat's are in fact Muslims. Read back the historical/socialogical books, people from all faiths used to come to these Peers/Saints. My opinion is once these people so high in spiritual state reach one almighty god, religion concept goes away.

Can you keep it simple and just some evidence that Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan were not Muslims.

You are just trying to reinvent the wheel.

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You are truly ignorant. Right from 17th century in MEHARBAN JANAMSAKHI till Gyani Gurdit Singhs book Bhagat Bani Ithas recently it has been TIME TO TIME proven again that JAGAT Guru Nanak gave Naam to Bhagats and they were his disciples.

Read some Puratan books. Reading one is better than none brother, and take the good stuff out of it. Ignorance is condemned in Gurbani in the harshest possible ways.

You read few articles on Internet with made up birth date of Bhagats (made up in the 20th century by authors like Max Macauliffe) and your the scholar? Don't base your Sikhi gyan on Internet only, there is alot of inaccuracies out there by the Nangs Missionaries etc.

Read Bhagat Bani ithas with several proofs. Old manuscrips mention Bhagat Kabir and Namdev being Guru Nanak Sahibs disciples, the photocopies of the manuscripts are recorded. Meeting with Bhagat Kabir are well known and three Gurdwaras commorate their meetings (Amarkantak, Ayodhya etc).

And Mona topic is justified as you are no one to judge the personal relationship of a Sikh and his Guru. Instead of criticising monas you should read more on Sikh history (no sarcasm).

So you dont want the Noble Prize for history to prove to all that Sheikh Farid and Sheikh Bhikan

were not Muslims?

And monas in your scholarly opinion have a personal relationship with the Guru,.

You are trully enlightened.

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