** Tom Watson Uk Member Of Parliament Reveals Biggest Secret: Britain Involved In 1984 Army Attack On Darbar Sahib

[WaljinderSingh]

Sant Bhindranwale moved into Sri Harminder Sahib to protect it from the pre-planned attack of Indian Govt.

I think the plan is to shift the blame on Sant ji.

Gen Sinha clearly said they were planning to invade 18 months prior and at that time (1982) Sant ji were not even there!

[cool water]

Did Israeli military intelligence group Mossad present and plan operation "blue star" (of david) to the genocidal congress Indian government and its brutal genocidal armed forces?

"In early 1983, six army officers from a classified unit called the Special Group (SG) were flown to a secret base of Sayeret Matkal, the Israeli commando force that led the 1977 rescue of hostages from Entebbe airport in Uganda. The mission, coordinated by RAW with Mossad, was classified because India didn't have diplomatic ties with Israel and it did not want to anger its Arab friends. The officers trained in counter-terror-in carefully recreated landscapes of streets, buildings and vehicles-at the base near Tel Aviv for 22 days"

Seems like there is a bigger Israeli jewish mossad connection than previously thought in regards to the massacre of our beloved people and desecration of our holiest shrine. Also its worth noting that punjab cheif ministers (Badal) current personal security commando's are trained in Israel. Anyone see a pattern emerging?

Did Indian govt reject UK SAS's plan because of costs and chose the "cost effective" Israeli mossads plans instead? If you look back in 1982 you can see what Israeli army under leadership of ariel sharon did to Palestinian refugee camp massacring hundreds of innocent women and children by funding Lebanese christian terrorist militia groups..so they have no problem killing hundreds of innocent people and the world doing nothing about it maybe they advised the same to the Indira's congress govt. Telling them dont worry we have western govts in the pocket do what you want with the Sikhs we will cover your back internationally.

We need to follow this line of research and questioning.

[Jonny101]

After knowing that the Indian army got help from British, Israeli and Soviet military experts besides being armed with the best commandos of the Indian army, machine guns, tanks, armored personnel carriers, artillery, helicopters, I now have even more respect for Gen Shahbeg Singh who failed all their plans with young lightly armed fighters who had no military training, no fighting experience, no rest, but only Bani on their lips and a thirst to fight for the Panth against all odds.

[lsingh]

This Indian account of Bluestar suggests chemical weapons were used also by the RAW troops. It states canisters of 'Gas' were fired at the Akal Takht however they bounced back at the attacking troops and impacted them. It has been stated by the Granthis present that the fish died in the sarovar suggesting the use of chemicals.

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[lsingh]

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/labour-party-mp-tom-watson-house-of-commons-godlen-temple-operation-bluestar/1/341195.html

Labour Party MP reacts to India Today story, to seek statement from House of Commons.

Labour Party MP Tom Watson on Saturday said he wanted "an urgent statement" from the UK government in the House of Commons on Monday after an India Today magazine story revealed how then Indian prime minister Indira Gandhi almost gave the go-ahead to a covert RAW operation to kidnap Sikh leader Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindrawale months before she sent the Army into the Sri Harmandir Sahib in 1984.

In an email, Watson said that in light of the India Today story, he was going to write to the Foreign Secretary demanding an urgent statement in the House of Commons on Monday.

Earlier this month, British Prime Minister David Cameron said there was no evidence so far to suggest that elite British special forces played a role in the 1984 Operation Bluestar to flush out militants holed up in the Sri Harmandir Sahib in Amritsar.

Cameron has asked Cabinet Secretary Jeremy Heywood to conduct the investigation after documents declassified suggested a British special forces officer advised the Indians on carrying out the attack.

Tom Watson had raised the issue in the House of Commons, demanding full disclosure of the issue.

[lsingh]

I think the British are going to say that they were involved only in the Operation that did not take place. They will say we did not advise on Bluestar. This gets them out of hole where the evidence is there they were supporting the Indians, but can say that they were not part of the army action where the bloodshed took place. Funny how this news is coming out at this time.

[Jonny101]

This Indian account of Bluestar suggests chemical weapons were used also by the RAW troops. It states canisters of 'Gas' were fired at the Akal Takht however they bounced back at the attacking troops and impacted them. It has been stated by the Granthis present that the fish died in the sarovar suggesting the use of chemicals.

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True, they had fired gas canisters at the Singhs, but ironically the direction of the wind was blowing against the Indian soldiers as a result some Indian soldiers fell unconscious when they were exposed to their own gas.

Never in the history of modern India had so many troops been used armed with so many sophisticated weaponry, officered by experienced commanders with help from expert military advisers from around the world just to conquer such a small space as the Darbar Sahib complex. This was like a repeat of the epic resistance put forth by Baba Gurbaksh Singh Jee in 1764 at Darbar Sahib.

[JasSinghKhalsa]

True, they had fired gas canisters at the Singhs, but ironically the direction of the wind was blowing against the Indian soldiers as a result some Indian soldiers fell unconscious when they were exposed to their own gas.

Hahahaha, This sounds so funny , intelligence of so called mightest army of the world, didn't realised the direction of the wind flowing against ... This is what you call "Lakeer De Fakeer" ...

[Singh, Mahan]

Sources:

1. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indira-gandhi-commando-raid-operation-bluestar-indian-army-golden-temple-jarnail-singh-bhindranwale-raw-officials/1/341065.html

2 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-2549756/Indira-considered-secret-operation-Bluestar.html

Indira Gandhi considered secret commando raid before Operation Bluestar

Sandeep Unnithan New Delhi, February 1, 2014 | UPDATED 15:44 IST

Operation Bluestar continues to be the most controversial deployment of Army in Independent India's history

Months before Prime Minister Indira Gandhi sent the Indian Army into the Golden Temple in 1984, she considered a covert commando raid to apprehend radical Sikh leader Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale.

Investigations by India Today into the recently declassified Margaret Thatcherer's documents in the United Kingdom, revealed a raid that was planned by Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) to abduct Bhindranwale from a building outside the Golden Temple.

Interviews with retired commandos and RAW officials revealed that the plan was initiated sometime in late 1983 at the behest of Gandhi's security adviser and RAW founder, R.N. Kao.

An official from Britain's elite Special Air Services (SAS) visited India in December 1983 and vetted the plan in which 200 commandos of RAW's military wing, the Special Group (SG), would abduct the separatist militant leader in a combined ground and air assault. SG commandos rehearsed for several months on a mockup of the three-storeyed Guru Nanak Niwas, which they constructed at their base in Sarsawa, UP.

The commandos flew night sorties on specially modified Mi-4 helicopters and even practised heli-drops on buildings near Amritsar. A commando assault unit was to drive in from the ground and drive away with the separatist leader. The commandos did anticipate a firefight with Bhindranwale's heavily armed followers.

The plan was, however, called off by the Prime Minister in April 1984. One of the reasons for scrapping the plan was that she feared civilian casualties in the firefight. The Indian Army, which was then called in, assured her there would be no collateral damage.

Operation Bluestar, the June 1984 operation where 83 soldiers and 492 civilians died and the Akal Takht, one of Sikhism's holiest shrines, was shelled by tanks, continues to be the most controversial deployment of the Army in Independent India's history. It triggered off a cataclysmic domino-like series of events: the October 31, 1984 assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards, nationwide riots targeting Sikhs and a Punjab problem that simmered for another decade.

Hazy outlines of this secret RAW plan were whispered about even in the aftermath of Operation Bluestar. Mark Tully and Satish Jacob's 1985 book "Amritsar: Mrs Gandhi's last battle" mentions a commando unit rehearsing a raid on a mock-up of the Golden Temple created in Chakrata.

Military analysts, however, believe the plan had only limited chances of success. "The operation would have needed a guarantee of success, which a special forces kidnap cannot provide," says Colonel Vivek Chadha (retired) of the Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses.

"Bhindranwale's heavily armed militants would have had a bloody skirmish with the commandos. The isolation of one building would have been a challenge." Sundown now offers only a tantalising alternate view of whether history might have been any different if it had succeeded.

********* About the called off Operation SunDown *********** ?????

[Singh, Mahan]

Source: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/operation-bluestar-indira-gandhi-singh-bhindranwale-army-raw-paramilitary-unit/1/340986.html

The league of shadows

Operation Bluestar: The league of shadows

Sandeep Unnithan January 31, 2014 | UPDATED 21:34 IST

In early 1983, six army officers from a classified unit called the Special Group (SG) were flown to a secret base of Sayeret Matkal, the Israeli commando force that led the 1977 rescue of hostages from Entebbe airport in Uganda. The mission, coordinated by RAW with Mossad, was classified because India didn't have diplomatic ties with Israel and it did not want to anger its Arab friends. The officers trained in counter-terror-in carefully recreated landscapes of streets, buildings and vehicles-at the base near Tel Aviv for 22 days. The experience, an SG officer, now retired, recalls, was a culture shock for the Indians, coming as they did from a steeply hierarchical army: They were bemused to see women guarding Israeli Defense Forces headquarters and soldiers high-five their officers.

Special group commandos train at their base in Sarsawa

The newly trained officers would soon come in handy. New Delhi was hosting two summits in 1983 that would burnish Indira Gandhi's standing as a global leader-the Non-Aligned Summit in March and the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting in November-and it was keen to prevent terrorist attacks of the sort that had bedevilled the West through the 1960s and 1970s. The summits passed without event under SG's watchful eye.

Special group commandos train at their base in Sarsawa, Uttar Pradesh,in 1984

SG was created in 1981. Till then, the Army had shown little interest in raising a specialised anti-terrorist force. So the government turned to the Directorate General Security, a covert unit set up by the Jawaharlal Nehru government with CIA's assistance after the 1962 war with China. The directorate, which had its own air wing, the Aviation Research Centre, and a paramilitary comprising Tibetans, the Special Frontier Force (SFF), was subsumed within raw when the external intelligence agency was created in 1968. In 1982, the directorate launched Project Sunray: It tasked a colonel of the Army's 10th Para/Special Forces to set up a unit of 250 officers and men, all Indians unlike SFF, in commando companies 55, 56 and 57.

The unit, housed in tents at the Sarsawa Indian Air Force base near Saharanpur in Uttar Pradesh and christened Special Group, operated under the RAW chief. raw wanted to train the unit's officers with SAS--SG officers had recommended it after a tour of the British agency's training facility at Hereford-but the government turned down the proposal, apparently due to the high training cost of £5,000 per trooper. SG improvised its own training regimen; being directly under the Prime Minister's Cabinet Secretariat helped. "We just had to ask for equipment and it would be given," recalls a former SG officer. A request for over 100 bulletproof vests and tactical helmets was met almost overnight and the gear flown in from Israel.

Two special group officers at the Golden Temple during Bluestar

SG was then prepared for Operation Sundown and, after it was aborted, for Bluestar. Following Indira's assassination, SG men protected Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi and his family until the government raised the Special Protection Group in 1985. Soon after, nearly 200 SG personnel were deputed to a new anti-terrorist force under the Union home ministry, the National Security Guard. The Special Group remains RAW's ultra-secret military unit for clandestine intelligence missions, the equivalent of CIA's Special Activities Division.