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3Ho Mocks With Non Sikh Panj Pyaare

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3HO is a lost cause, the ones who leave are usually at risk of death by the cult.

Your first statement is probably true. In fact its definately true.

However, you've followed it with such a ridiculous second statement one can't help but wonder about the validity of your frst statement.

I mean lets just be clear about this....Are you saying 3HO have secret death squads that go around assassinating people that leave their group ?

My own thoughts on 3HO are these : Clearly, many of their practices are very un-Sikh and offensive to us. However, one does need to strike a balance between good and bad and bearing that in mind it has to be said they have single handedly brought more non-Sikhs into the Sikh fold on a world-wide level than all the other Sikh organisations combined. Despite their very serious shortcomings, thats something that can't be ignored.

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A fair point. But I've been to occasions where there are non Turbaned, Amritdhari Sikhs present and they want to do Langar Shak of Panj Pyare or get the Mahraaj's Beer they just get five together [moneh] and say it's acceptable.

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To include non Sikhs as part of Panj Pyare is the height of ignorance on their part. But this is to be expected of 3ho, they are bringing in modern American culture into Sikhi. It's no different on how they have also made homosexual lifestyle acceptable despite Akal Takht's saying it is not. Even Yogi Bhajjan did not support these things.

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To include non Sikhs as part of Panj Pyare is the height of ignorance on their part. But this is to be expected of 3ho, they are bringing in modern American culture into Sikhi. It's no different on how they have also made homosexual lifestyle acceptable despite Akal Takht's saying it is not. Even Yogi Bhajjan did not support these things.

there is also kabal hukamnama stating "partangami nahi banana" means do not be homo

and these 3ho have gona way over board now

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There is no difference between current 3HO and other deras like radha swami, nirankari, naamdhari etc. Things are out of our hands after yogi's akal chalana.

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Calling 5 different priests from different faiths "Panj Piyare" is not appropriate, otherwise all faith prayers for the deceased is not a bad idea at all.

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Calling 5 different priests from different faiths "Panj Piyare" is not appropriate, otherwise all faith prayers for the deceased is not a bad idea at all.

From what I understood the two deceased were Sikh , presemably amritdhari thus the whole hoo ha of a punj but why the need for so many different faiths participation ? Simple bhog rusam should have been done no superstitions entertained, they were not appropriately attended to if it is necessary to be carried back by amritdhari Singhs (I do not know if this is a requirement) ultimately their souls will not be affected by the treatment of their bodies otherwise what solace for those families whose loved ones have been 'disappeared'. 3HO have been led by a mega-egoist and it is not a surprise if they are stumbling around now clueless and pointless. We as good Gursikhs need to help them understand what is necessary in the light of Gurbani and what is superstition of false belief constructs.

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Panj Pyarey are guru roop.

But they are NEVER panj pyarey if they are NOT in the presence of Guru Roop-Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.......This is a must !

The panj piarey that may be present in amrit sanchar are the Guru roop whilst they are there only......later they may all head off to their homes and continue with normal lifestyles of 9-5 jobs or whatever.... because that authority of panj has ceased from the point they are out of the hazoori of sri Guru granth sahib ji.

If someone goes around claiming to be one of the panj,...outside the hazoori of sri guru maharaj... then are we meant to take that seriously ?

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