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Who Will You Vote For In May?


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No Sikh MP has been elected. Southall and Hounslow have chosen Hindus to stand for them. Virendra Sharma Southall MP is an Overseas Congress representative with close links to Indian politicians. Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi lost in Gravesend after the Gurdwara Committee opposed him and supported the Conservatives due to personal issues.

This is how stupid our community is. Instead of supporting our own, we start smear campaigns against them and vote for people who don't have our interests at heart .

In Southall an amritdhari Singh stands , and the fools vote in a Indian overseas congress member !!! Ridiculous you couldn't make it up.

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We are too equal as community which means for the sake of equality, we denigrate ourselves and put others in front of us which is never reciprocated by the other.

Our voting patterns and habits are not the same as other communities. We need to see what makes us tick.

Other communities have more of a herd, follow the crowd mentality, which means in the democratic sense they can be mobilised to vote as a bloc.

However since Sikhs are supposed to be lions, we do not act as herd-like and we do not necessarily follow and vote for a Sikh. We are probably more individualistic in our thinking and more critical of our fellow Sikhs which means we cannot galvanise collectively. On one hand it is a good thing but maybe not so much in a democratic voting sense.

Another virtue of ours is "The human race as one", this means that in a voting sense we will put a non-Sikh before a Sikh, which all very noble but means that it may give other communities an advantage as they do not have this viewpoint.

Just some random thoughts.

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We are too equal as community which means for the sake of equality, we denigrate ourselves and put others in front of us which is never reciprocated by the other.

Our voting patterns and habits are not the same as other communities. We need to see what makes us tick.

Other communities have more of a herd, follow the crowd mentality, which means in the democratic sense they can be mobilised to vote as a bloc.

However since Sikhs are supposed to be lions, we do not act as herd-like and we do not necessarily follow and vote for a Sikh. We are probably more individualistic in our thinking and more critical of our fellow Sikhs which means we cannot galvanise collectively. On one hand it is a good thing but maybe not so much in a democratic voting sense.

Another virtue of ours is "The human race as one", this means that in a voting sense we will put a non-Sikh before a Sikh, which all very noble but means that it may give other communities an advantage as they do not have this viewpoint.

Just some random thoughts.

Far from it, jealousy and inferiority complex are rife within our community.

Instead of helping other Sikhs do good, we engage in slander and smear campaigns against them. Instead of supporting them we try to bring them down.

Our " so called " representatives can't even get along amongst themselves. Sikh council UK, Sikh federation etc etc. Gurdwara committees have a fallout the opposition commitee goes and opens a new Gurdwara.

There needs to be united front if we are too see any progress.

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Far from it, jealousy and inferiority complex are rife within our community.

Instead of helping other Sikhs do good, we engage in slander and smear campaigns against them. Instead of supporting them we try to bring them down.

Our " so called " representatives can't even get along amongst themselves. Sikh council UK, Sikh federation etc etc. Gurdwara committees have a fallout the opposition commitee goes and opens a new Gurdwara.

There needs to be united front if we are too see any progress.

I have to disagree with you there, there are complexes and jealousies in all communities. We can't wait for our community to be some "perfect" community to further our interests.

There are a lot of good things that our Sikh orgs, even Gurdwara do and people do acknowledge that even in our own community and our Gurdwara for all their faults can put their differences aside to Co - ordinate with each other.

I just think it is something else, probably something in Sikh dynamic and more specifically in the UK Sikh dynamic. Canadian Sikhs are very politically active and they have representation politically, is there something we can learn from them. Even Canadian Gurdwara have problems and the Canadian Sikh community also has the same kind of jealousies and types of animosities that UK Sikhs have.

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It is shocking you have no politicians though.

It's almost as if subconciously you have decided it's a bad thing to stand together as a union.

But then when I eat at a langar and see the unity of the women it shows me that unity is still real in your community.

If only this would translate into modern day politics, but then I guess the left wing is kind of dead in politics these days.

It's almost become a dirty word to use.

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Pull out the EU, EU holds britain back

Agree pull out of the EU and become masters of our destiny in a Sovereign nation as WaheGuru intended.

Also pull out of NATO, Turkey a so called ally has done next to nothing in tackling ISIS.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amb-marc-ginsberg/kobani-cabal----when-it-c_b_5942298.html

Time for Britain to go it alone again with strategic economic and miltary alliances with a new set of partners around the globe i.e. the BRICs. Britain has already signed up with the Chinese bank.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-31864877

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According to wikipedia.org some 158 candidates of South Asian descent are contesting U.K election

“There are 158 British Asians (i.e., Britons of South Asian descent) standing for election: 111 men and 47 women.[17] The Conservatives are standing 36 British Asian candidates, Labour 34, the Liberal Democrats 32, UKIP 21, the Greens eight, …. “

Another Indian website reports that 10 MPs of Indian descent have been elected. So there must also be several South Asian Muslims (Pakistani and Bangladeshi) elected.

Any idea, how many?

As far as Sikh are concerned, at local level the politics “the uncles” are in control who don‘t seem to be interestd in Skh community but they are in their for their own interest. Nor do they have much loyalty to Sikhi, but much more to some other “great /good people” who may or may not do any thing for the Sikh, but easy to have pictures with.

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According to wikipedia.org some 158 candidates of South Asian descent are contesting U.K election

“There are 158 British Asians (i.e., Britons of South Asian descent) standing for election: 111 men and 47 women.[17] The Conservatives are standing 36 British Asian candidates, Labour 34, the Liberal Democrats 32, UKIP 21, the Greens eight, …. “

Another Indian website reports that 10 MPs of Indian descent have been elected. So there must also be several South Asian Muslims (Pakistani and Bangladeshi) elected.

Any idea, how many?

As far as Sikh are concerned, at local level the politics “the uncles” are in control who don‘t seem to be interestd in Skh community but they are in their for their own interest. Nor do they have much loyalty to Sikhi, but much more to some other “great /good people” who may or may not do any thing for the Sikh, but easy to have pictures with.

Details of the number of Muslim Pakistani and Hindu Indian are on my post from yesterday, here is the summary;

There are 10 Pakistani Muslim origin MP's and 10 Indian Hindu origin MP's in the new Parliament. There are Zero Sikh MP's.

'Pakistani-origin MPs draw level with Indians in UK polls

PTI, London

| Updated: May 09, 2015 08:28 IST

Pakistani-origin MPs have improved their tally in Britain's House of Commons after the just-concluded general election with a total of 10 elected candidates, drawing level with their Indian colleagues.'

The Sikhs drew a blank with no MP being elected. News coming out many towns was that the Conservatives/Labour easily set Sikhs against one another, Gravesend in particular where smear stories appeared in the national press making the whole Sikh community look bad.

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