Epidemic Of Conversion In Punjab

[Sanghasher]

https://twitter.com/search?q=%40noconversion%20punjab&src=typd

It burns every cell in my body to see some ugly gora stepping on my pavitar dharti.

Any strategies to stop this beside lopping heads?

[sssSSinghh]

https://twitter.com/search?q=%40noconversion%20punjab&src=typd

It burns every cell in my body to see some ugly gora stepping on my pavitar dharti.

Any strategies to stop this beside lopping heads?

LOL.......

i personally dont mind these conversions at all.....fark it.

Punjab's a lost cause anyways....

The people these church's seem to be converting aren't SIkh's in my book.......Let them do what they please.

as you say "It burns every cell in my body to see some ugly gora stepping on my pavitar dharti"....Unfortunately your going to burn a million times over in the not too distant future....good luck buddy.

STop Hating - start living bro.

[StarStriker]

http://dailysikhupdates.com/church-shuts-dalits-become-sikhs-punjab-village

CHURCH SHUTS DOWN AFTER DALITS BECOME SIKHS IN PUNJAB VILLAGE

DAILY SIKH UPDATES | 28 February, 2015 at 20:21

"In village Daoke, Punjab, which is surrounded by Pakisani territory on all three side, the Dalit families have converted to Sikhism.

The church was constructed on donated land in the border village and has been shut down for few months. The managing priest shows up for once or twice a month to maintain the building.



Ten years ago, Christian missionaries had converted an estimated 200 Dalits. After conversion, the Punjab Govt denied benefits which would have been given if they remained their native religion as they would be categorized in Scheduled Caste.



The Dalits of the village have stated they have converted without any outside pressure and are firm on their decision.

The district of Amritsar had many villages which became Christian but recently many have returned to their native faiths. Recently, 3 other churches in the District were shutdown due to re-conversion.

A local villager stated many of the families were lured by missionaries in promise of benefits."

Seems its been countered in other places. They r jus bribing poor ppl with incentives to leave sikhi, n join this crappy fake middle eastern cult. This is all at the end of the day the sgpc's fault, they got so much money, they cud pay for the finances for a lot of poor families, who r in trouble, via pind-to-pind sikh parcharaks, like wat sant jarnail singh used to do. He got many many ex-sikh/communists back into sikhi, and on hardly any budget. These christians r jus using money to target ppl, not even anyfink spiritual, or storytelling inspiring, coz it cant compete with sikh history, nothing can.

[ASKhalsa1]

LOL.......

i personally dont mind these conversions at all.....fark it.

Punjab's a lost cause anyways....

The people these church's seem to be converting aren't SIkh's in my book.......Let them do what they please.

Brother, Punjab will never be a lost cause, it can never be one. All of our most sacred Guru Ghars are there. We cannot ever abandon them to the Brahmins and the Christian missions.

Lopping of heads? The admin on this forum allows such horrid remarks?

The original poster is some Jai-Hind Bharat Mata Ki Jai psycopath who believes there is an imminent war coming between Western civilization and Dharmic civilization, which he insists that India is bound to win. He is in all likelihood a troll.

[Hammertime007]

Grass roots prarcharr needed starting with everyone's own pind

[T_Singh]

Time and time again I have stated to the elders what we need to do is what they are doing.

What they are doing is helping and feeding the poor.

Seva is part of our dharam yet unfortunately we have failed is certain parts of applying seva. What these missionaries are attempting to do (some parts successfully) is helping the poor, feeding them assisting them and then also handing them a bible.

In my opinion what we need to do collectively we have big aid charities now that go over the world and or have teams in Punjab, we need to have weekly soup kicthens, food banks and do parchaar at the same time. If these aid charities have teams in Punjab this should not be so difficult.

For too long the Sikhs have turned a blind eye to the Isaaiees in Punjab, I say when will we wake up, when its too late (as usual) this is the mentality always. Seriously, we need to reform ourselves in our attidude of how it used to be.

[ghettosikh]

Its just poor people in punjab who are being targetted by the christians. If the Jatt peope didn't treat them like garbage they wouldnt be so easily manipulated. I heard stories of Jatts not allowing poorer sikhs even enter the Gurdwaras. Seems to me Jatts are forgetting how they used to be treated by "higher caste" rajputs in the past

Its just poor people in punjab who are being targetted by the christians. If the Jatt peope didn't treat them like garbage they wouldnt be so easily manipulated. I heard stories of Jatts not allowing poorer sikhs even enter the Gurdwaras. Seems to me Jatts are forgetting how they used to be treated by "higher caste" rajputs in the past

[JSINGHANANDPUR]

The problem is present in all faiths , I see many christians in news rue the thin presence in Sunday masses , sale and closures of Churches in west , even muslims personally fear declining trend among youth ( the hardline migration toards ISIS are but miniscule and not representative of majority) . The youth generally drift away at certain age and then come back after realising there is little difference in this or that faith .Only thing we can do is , give our kids proper ubbringing and impart basics of our faith so they can imbibe the tenets and fight the evil effects from outside

[N30S1NGH]

The problem is corruption/caste/group tribal politics have crept too much in our sikh panth that we have just lost directions have no sense of prioritizing our duties, failed to see overall big picture for betterment of the panth. We totally misunderstood concept of Piri* in Miri-Piri. We definitely have to raise bar and work together on common causes leaving our minor differences aside. I mean amount of small stuff we fight over is so so so petty- Outsiders laugh at us.

Sarbat khalsa should create different levels of threat our panths faces/risk management etc so public can understand gravity of suitations panth faces. They should create an criteria different level of threats(extreme high, high, medium low)/ criticality level panth faces based on that prioritize our response. For example- when it comes to outside conversion scholarly/ideology attacks then this should be declared under extreme high threat and at that point everyone should comes together as one unit/team use all our energies to mitigate that threat. Human already have natural instinct to work together for example if earth quake hits town or city, everyone works together even person-friend and foe-extreme enemy of someone works together as it affects both. So first we need to realize gravity of a problem, relate to it, acknowledge the shortcoming then work together.

It's doable with lot of awareness campaign from pind to pind and with lot of hard work, we need leaders who have obsession with truth, integrity, honesty, obsession with outcome/output results/bigger results. we need people who can put their differences/egos aside and say look i m willing to work with you as team as panth is facing more bigger problems-external threats.

*, Miri-Piri has nothing to do with regular politics that we often see in sikh jagat these days which is born out of mind- five vices- jealously/irkha/tribalism, worldly moral compass, trai gun maya- rajo,sato, tamo etc. In Gurmat, Piri- sipahihood/right actions-sat/santokh/dya/dharam/mokham/himmat/sahib/fair policy for humanity is naturally born or spontaneously risen out of dharma miri - saint, thats why sant is first then sipahi not the other way around.

The divine Miri Piri started by Sri Guru hargobind sahib is born naturally from pure divine consciousness (hukam rajia chalna- abide in hakum and follow through hakum which is always unfolding and its constant and unintermittent flow) and its not meant to saw through lenses of from maya or mind nor piri can be manually enforced by condioned mind.

[lsingh]

This will continue, if we don't get the message out that Sikhi is the one and only dharam in which:

1. Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji is accepted as the bravest of the brave. Hindu's and Muslims universally despised those from so-called scavenging castes and made a point of emphasising them as cowards as seen in Pakistan today.

2. Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji led the Sikh Fauj at Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj's behest. Similarly, the Hindu's and Muslims scoffed at the Sikhs for in their eyes they saw our Khalsa Fauj being led by in their view "just a low caste Chamar".

3. Dhan Dhan Kabir Ji Maharaj and Dhan Dhan Ji Maharaj true words were immortalised and protected from adulteration by their enemies solely within Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Only Sikhs are true Ravidassi's. Congress supporters based at Dera Ballan do not have right to appropriate that term away from the Panth.

4. Giani Ditt Singh Ji of Singh Sabha wiped the floor in debates with Christians, Ahmadi's, Muslims and Hindu's. All of Giani Ditt Singh's non-Sikh opponents (as well as Khemu Bedi of Sodhak Committee fame) despised Giani Ji for being of leatherworking ancestry whilst the Christians, Ahmadi's, Hindu's and Muslims all boasted of their so-called high caste status. Through Bhai Lalo Ji we know who is and is not truly high.Whereas tarkhans had low ritual status in Hindu and Muslims, Sardar Jassa Singh led a united fauj of Sikhs in the Ramgarhia misl in which around 90% of the brave warriors were not carpenters but were erstwhile Jatts, Brahmins, Saini's, Leatherworkers, Weavers, Scavengers etc, etc who all united into a united casteless army under his command. Again we see Congress sycophants trying to appropriate a saanjha misl away from the collective historic pride of the whole Panth as a means of conquering via division ("divide and conquer").

5. Four of our Panj Piare were from so-called low caste backgrounds in the eyes of Hindu's, Muslims and Christians (who also have segregated caste Churches) as diverse afield as one of the Panj Piare being from Gujarat, one with Dravidian background from South India, one from Orissa in eastern India given that four of our Panj Piare were non-Punjabi.

On top of that until we immediately reform in order to create single United Sangat Gudrwara's in every single village in Punjab and every town in the West we can expect the trend to continue with matrimonial level apartheid flourishing 316years after Guru Sahib ushered in the Khalsa Panth with the emphasis upon kul nash (obliteration of former identity layers).

United we Stand and Divided we fall in the face of drugs, alcohol, illiteracy, biraderi, ill health and infanticide facing us.

VJKK VJKF

Giani Ditt did an excellent job with little resources to raise the voice of the Sikhs. The British supported Arya Samaj and Sanatan groups had to retreat after this. After facing the bullets of the British and their Mahant allies the Gurdwaras were freed again. The Khalsa schools that were set up by the Gurdawara reform and original Akali movement educated thousands of Sikhs in our religion. Since 1947 these have been in decline as the corruption of the the Indian system has taken over most Sikh orgainisations.