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I agree with the video... But an error was made in the video, in that the leictester grooming gang had 2 hindus. Also it wasnt in berkshire that grooming happened it was aylesbury in buckinghamshire

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The particular mindset of these types of "journalists" is to whitewash things done in the Pakistani community and become apologists for them and amplify any perceived things in their own community.

However the problem with these types is that they get very defensive when someone in the white community critiques something in their own community.

An example I can give is Sunny likes to portray Sikh males in being mysogynst and that Sikh males being oppressors of Sikh women.

However on twitter, some white twitter user commented that women must be oppressed because the Gurdwara sangat is segregated by gender. Suddenly Sunny leapt into the defence of Sikhs to explain that it is not inequality because they sit at the same level.

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He has made another good video. This guy has done a good job exposing this desi liberal with a double standard.

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An example I can give is Sunny likes to portray Sikh males in being mysogynst and that Sikh males being oppressors of Sikh women.

However on twitter, some white twitter user commented that women must be oppressed because the Gurdwara sangat is segregated by gender. Suddenly Sunny leapt into the defence of Sikhs to explain that it is not inequality because they sit at the same level.

There's still hope for him yet. :)

And honestly, I really don't know why some people get hyper about Sikh women being oppressed. I'm not saying there's not the odd bad egg who gets up to that kind of stuff, but there's many, many types of those people in other cultures and religions too. I can say with my hand on my heart I've yet to meet an oppressed Sikh woman either in the UK or abroad. In some ways I think they oppress Sikh men, lmao.

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There's still hope for him yet.

If you follow his tweets, he is changing his tact and position from his traditional point of view.

Being from the left, he is beginning to critique a lot of leftists. Now I do not know his justification for this, it could be that he is changing his perspective or he is looking where the wind is blowing and being opportunistic.

My opinion is of the latter.

I am of the opinion that the white mainstream media has a favourable opinion on the Sikh community from across all spectrums and he cannot garner the attention-wh*r*ing that he craves from trying portray Sikhs as sexist patriarchs.

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If you follow his tweets, he is changing his tact and position from his traditional point of view.

Being from the left, he is beginning to critique a lot of leftists. Now I do not know his justification for this, it could be that he is changing his perspective or he is looking where the wind is blowing and being opportunistic.

My opinion is of the latter.

I am of the opinion that the white mainstream media has a favourable opinion on the Sikh community from across all spectrums and he cannot garner the attention-wh*r*ing that he craves from trying portray Sikhs as sexist patriarchs.

His brother's ardasaa are being listened to I think, hehe.

But seriously, Sikhs are on the whole very accommodating and chilled out, and trying to portay us as otherwise is quite devious.

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Can I just say there is a growing tendancy in all Sikh websites to use headlines such as 'so and so EXPOSED'. I regularly read Sikh related news updates on a daily basis on...er...the 'Daily Sikh Updates' websites and they've got about 300 news articles that start with the headline 'so and so EXPOSED'. I think its fair to say that we've overused the word 'exposed' a bit too much now and its time to stop.

Maybe its just me but whenever I read these headlines I expect (and perhaps hope) its about a trouser or pants accident leaving a person exposed. Then, when I actually open up the article or story I'm always left disapointed and underwhelmed. All I'm saying is that one gets all excited when one reads the headline, anticipating a really juicy picture or story about the subject's pants falling down in public. It really is quite disheartening to then discover nothing of the sort. And then, feeling let down after being teased, one can't find the energy or will to actually read the story. As far as I know then, this thread could be about something really important. I don't know. All I know is that the thread headline led me to believe that something really funny and embarrassing happened, leaving the man exposed. Next time, please, don't use that headline unless you have a genuine trousers falling down picture to share with us.

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Unfortunately our community also has been infiltrated by left-wing liberal sell-outs, working with government back-hands to create a false sense of "harmony" amoungst community's. "EK Saath" slough (http://www.aiksaath.com) Sunny Hundal (most devious media trouble-maker in this country), balwinder rana (turban campaign) all devious money-hungry exploiters of race-relations.

These scumbags job is to divert attention from real issues, create histeria that 1000's of sikhs are going militant, only for them to then claim grants from the government to "defuse" the problem.

Ek Saath- these guys used the 1990's Slough SP vs sullah fights to create a funding pool to "solve the problem" they infact just brushed over the real causes of the tension, held dumb workshops with sikh children and muslims only for a sullaah to start dating the sikh lady they employed to coordinate the whole thing! lol.. ridiculous!

Sunny Hundal- with mates at bbc asian network, balwinder rana, turban campaign.. sadh sangat ji, these guys are professional Con men.. do not be fooled!! first find out how they are funding their groups and campaigns..... From an old post

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Unfortunately our community also has been infiltrated by left-wing liberal sell-outs, working with government back-hands to create a false sense of "harmony" amoungst community's. "EK Saath" slough (http://www.aiksaath.com) Sunny Hundal (most devious media trouble-maker in this country), balwinder rana (turban campaign) all devious money-hungry exploiters of race-relations.

These scumbags job is to divert attention from real issues, create histeria that 1000's of sikhs are going militant, only for them to then claim grants from the government to "defuse" the problem.

Ek Saath- these guys used the 1990's Slough SP vs sullah fights to create a funding pool to "solve the problem" they infact just brushed over the real causes of the tension, held dumb workshops with sikh children and muslims only for a sullaah to start dating the sikh lady they employed to coordinate the whole thing! lol.. ridiculous!

Sunny Hundal- with mates at bbc asian network, balwinder rana, turban campaign.. sadh sangat ji, these guys are professional Con men.. do not be fooled!! first find out how they are funding their groups and campaigns..... From an old post

You make some good points, I remember watching a channel 4 documentary on the Sikh vs Muslim rising tensions in 1997. Especially after 50 Sikh youths of shere punjab in a convey of cars smashed the Muslim islamo-fascist area of chalvey in slough. At the time Sikh youths in the documentary quite openly stated the Muslims hate them because they are non-muslims and so need to defend themselves in gangs. The Muslim youths mostly of Pakistani ethnicity feeling emboldened by their large demographical numbers and number of Islam-fascist hate preachers and jihadi organisations thought they could bully Sikhs and attack them as they please as they do in islam held countries but no Sikhs gave as good as they got.

That guy who ran http://www.aiksaath.com was featured trying to diffuse tensions when the real issue was aggressive Islamifisation of London and UK. British Sikhs had long recognised the evil nasty face of islamo-fascism and were carrying out revenge attacks on muslim wonnabe bad boys and gangsters. Many liberal Sikhs or those who had no knowledge of Sikhi become quite militantly Sikh due to the oppression and harassment muslim youths were giving non-muslims in educational institutions and on the streets. This all ties in with how UK had given safe haven to Islamo-fascists and rising muslim demographics from muslim countries/refugee's resulting in the problem they face now with the enemy within.

The liberal "Sikh" who is usually a punjabi atheist born in a Sikh household doesnt care much for Sikhi until the problem comes home and he see's his sister sexually exploited or harassed by non-sikh usually muslim paedophile/rapist or if their father/brother is attacked in the street for being a Sikh then the penny drops of why Sikhs get militant and fight back against the oppressor.

Liberal Sikhs (atheist punjabi's) are a curse on our community, God forbid any family being cursed with a liberal sikh because they will actively aid the enemy against their own Sikh community. The only type of Sikh we should respect is one who furthers the spread of Sikhism, increases Sikh demographical strength and encourages eloping of non-sikh women with Sikh guys so that we are in a good place in the coming future.

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The liberal "Sikh" who is usually a punjabi atheist born in a Sikh household doesnt care much for Sikhi until the problem comes home and he see's his sister sexually exploited or harassed by non-sikh usually muslim paedophile/rapist or if their father/brother is attacked in the street for being a Sikh then the penny drops of why Sikhs get militant and fight back against the oppressor.

Liberal Sikhs (atheist punjabi's) are a curse on our community, God forbid any family being cursed with a liberal sikh because they will actively aid the enemy against their own Sikh community. The only type of Sikh we should respect is one who furthers the spread of Sikhism, increases Sikh demographical strength and encourages eloping of non-sikh women with Sikh guys so that we are in a good place in the coming future.

Brother I'd be wary of conflating leftist/liberal values with atheist values as though they are the same thing. They're not, really. Most leftist demagogues in the UK are Islamic apologists, to be sure, but you'll find that the leading luminaries of modern atheism like Professor Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, A.C. Grayling, Lawrence Krauss and the late Christopher Hitchens, are all categorically opposed to Islam.

Active atheists tend to be opposed to religion, this includes Islam. True, many leftist appeasers of Islam happen to be atheists themselves, but they are of the passive kind who don't actually object to religion in others. Their lack of faith is not incidental to their politics.

My own father is an atheist Punjabi, but he himself dislikes Islam and still feels animated by a form of powerful tribal loyalty towards the Sikh people.

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And honestly, I really don't know why some people get hyper about Sikh women being oppressed. I'm not saying there's not the odd bad egg who gets up to that kind of stuff, but there's many, many types of those people in other cultures and religions too. I can say with my hand on my heart I've yet to meet an oppressed Sikh woman either in the UK or abroad. In some ways I think they oppress Sikh men, lmao.

I work with a lot of Punjabi women, I like to say that I am lucky in that respect.

They do Langars, some do a lot for charity, we have turbaned Amritdhari's, western looking Sikh women who like to dress all the fashion.

We have small celebrations for each Guru and the impression I get is these women love to get together and create a kitchen or some form of celebration.

I have heard some distressing domestic stories but the women usually come to work and talk about it, they all seem quite open about their lives.

The women usually like to eat in small cosy groups and share their food around and talk, OK it's all in Punjabi and is foreign to me but my paranoia is improving and I am far more relaxed

than I used to be because in the past I used to think they were talking about me or slagging me off.

Tomorrow morning I will walk into work and there will be at least a hundred Punjabi women there to greet me and luckily for me the word has gone around that I am an OK sort of guy

so I have no problem with them. They laugh a lot and you can see from most of their faces that they are OK with life and non I know seem oppressed but I have heard one or two go at the blokes

and the guys have simply bowed their heads when the barrage is launched at them, so yeah I wouldn't mess with them.

I don't really know the subtle ins and outs because I do not speak the language but this is my impression from the evidence presented before me.

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I work with a lot of Punjabi women, I like to say that I am lucky in that respect.

They do Langars, some do a lot for charity, we have turbaned Amritdhari's, western looking Sikh women who like to dress all the fashion.

We have small celebrations for each Guru and the impression I get is these women love to get together and create a kitchen or some form of celebration.

I have heard some distressing domestic stories but the women usually come to work and talk about it, they all seem quite open about their lives.

The women usually like to eat in small cosy groups and share their food around and talk, OK it's all in Punjabi and is foreign to me but my paranoia is improving and I am far more relaxed

than I used to be because in the past I used to think they were talking about me or slagging me off.

Tomorrow morning I will walk into work and there will be at least a hundred Punjabi women there to greet me and luckily for me the word has gone around that I am an OK sort of guy

so I have no problem with them. They laugh a lot and you can see from most of their faces that they are OK with life and non I know seem oppressed but I have heard one or two go at the blokes

and the guys have simply bowed their heads when the barrage is launched at them, so yeah I wouldn't mess with them.

I don't really know the subtle ins and outs because I do not speak the language but this is my impression from the evidence presented before me.

I'd never be ignorant to claim domestic abuse or even things of a more subtle nature don't occur in Sikh homes. I've heard stories, as we all have, but I've also heard the same stories about non-Sikhs too.

I believe Sikh women are a lot more vocal and vociferous than the outside world gives them credit for. They aren't wallflowers in any sense of the word.

That's why I get a bit miffed when I hear the likes of Hundal projecting issues that are far more common in other ethnic communities onto Sikhs, when he should know better.

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I work with a lot of Punjabi women, I like to say that I am lucky in that respect.

They do Langars, some do a lot for charity, we have turbaned Amritdhari's, western looking Sikh women who like to dress all the fashion.

We have small celebrations for each Guru and the impression I get is these women love to get together and create a kitchen or some form of celebration.

I have heard some distressing domestic stories but the women usually come to work and talk about it, they all seem quite open about their lives.

The women usually like to eat in small cosy groups and share their food around and talk, OK it's all in Punjabi and is foreign to me but my paranoia is improving and I am far more relaxed

than I used to be because in the past I used to think they were talking about me or slagging me off.

Tomorrow morning I will walk into work and there will be at least a hundred Punjabi women there to greet me and luckily for me the word has gone around that I am an OK sort of guy

so I have no problem with them. They laugh a lot and you can see from most of their faces that they are OK with life and non I know seem oppressed but I have heard one or two go at the blokes

and the guys have simply bowed their heads when the barrage is launched at them, so yeah I wouldn't mess with them.

I don't really know the subtle ins and outs because I do not speak the language but this is my impression from the evidence presented before me.

The reason why these Punjabi women speak in punjabi is because they do not want you to know any juicy bit of gossip.

I uses to have a white colleague who used to complain of the same thing which is eavesdrop on two Punjabi women speaking in English and when it got to the good part switch to Punjabi.

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I'd never be ignorant to claim domestic abuse or even things of a more subtle nature don't occur in Sikh homes. I've heard stories, as we all have, but I've also heard the same stories about non-Sikhs too.

I believe Sikh women are a lot more vocal and vociferous than the outside world gives them credit for. They aren't wallflowers in any sense of the word.

That's why I get a bit miffed when I hear the likes of Hundal projecting issues that are far more common in other ethnic communities onto Sikhs, when he should know better.

I think one of the previous posters hit the nail on the head, there is government funding that is involved so it is in the interests that these groups like Aikh Saath and individuals like Sunny Hundal try to exploit these things in order to get publicity and funding. Sunny Hundal in fact sits on the board of Aikh Saath.

Domestic abuse of Punjabi/Sikh women by Punjabi/Sikh men is by and large fuelled by alcohol.

Punjabi women and women in general have always had their female support networks, men (Punjabi men)have a lot of pressures and strains which they keep bottled up and when the inhibitions are lost when consumed by alcohol combined with some incessant nagging, they lose it.

For all the complaints by Punjabi women, there is a bigger problem of alcohol related deaths within Punjabi men which is not being addressed.

Whenever I go to the Gurdwara, and there is a funeral announcement and I see quite a few men in their 40s and 50s passing away and I look at their pictures and I think to myself , "what kind of personal hell have you been going through for you to lose your zest for life in your prime". Now I cannot claim to know the cause of their death but seeing many other Punjabi men in the same age group pass away due to alcohol - related issues you can guesstimate.

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