proudkaur21 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said: A terrible, virtually non-existent support system for normal religious folks (NOT weird jatha groupies) + the vast majority of the followers belonging to an ethnicity that seems to delight or relish any bad luck or hard times for their own = a very bleak future. From experience, the more you believe and try to understand, the more you will suffer. If you treat the entire thing like the Church of England thing of God only existing on a Sunday, lol, you'll be better off because you've discarded all demands and expectations. Sincerity breeds unrest; ambivalence begets contented ignorance. I'll repeat myself: Bhai Jagraj Singh's premature passing was a huge blow for Western Sikhs. He was EXACTLY what people were looking for. That is why sikhs need to do parchaar to non sikhs especially in India. Any sikh in the world is our brother/sister before some random atheist punjabi. There are many potential future sikhs in India. We need to do something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Tegang! Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said: That is why sikhs need to do parchaar to non sikhs especially in India. Any sikh in the world is our brother/sister before some random atheist punjabi. There are many potential future sikhs in India. We need to do something. People are attracted to strength and look for personal gain. It’s not the nitty gritty offerings of the religion, it’s the material benefit of the grouping that really pulls people in and keeps them there. If we can’t project strength in Punjab, it’s not going to work anywhere else. People need to see it in action to be convinced that giving up membership in the 1 billion-plus hindu conglomerate is worthwhile. Just look at Islam. No matter how horrendous and appalling aspects of their religious doctrine are, muslims stay put. Even knowing full well that there is no way any sane person with a sense of inherent morality can practice their faith to the T, muslims will not abandon ship. Only when a viable option that offers them security and material gain will muslims start leaving, and they have strong gatekeepers to prevent that from ever happening. I think our best course of action is more along the line of what @dallysingh101 keeps reminding us. We need to clean our own house, and that requires some harsh reality checks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallysingh101 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 I can't remember who posted it, but I think one of the most insightful and concise things I've read about apnay here recently was something along the lines of: An apna will be happy to lose £100 if it means another apna loses £70. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jai Tegang! Posted May 9, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said: I can't remember who posted it, but I think one of the most insightful and concise things I've read about apnay here recently was something along the lines of: An apna will be happy to lose £100 if it means another apna loses £70. There is a sakhi is sooraj prakash about Dasmesh Pita giving an important life lesson to the Khalsa. They get sweet rice prepared in large vats and offered to local dogs, who end up scattering the rice and mauling each other. Process repeated with deer and this time the animals gently circle around the vats and peacefully share the meal. Up to us how we want to treat each other and the resources of the Panth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterrSingh Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 8 hours ago, proudkaur21 said: That is why sikhs need to do parchaar to non sikhs especially in India. Any sikh in the world is our brother/sister before some random atheist punjabi. There are many potential future sikhs in India. We need to do something. Your policy will swell numbers but you won't get vichaaar, gyaan, and understanding that way. Great news for politicians; not so much if you have a somewhat thoughtful outlook. You're falling into the trap of thinking poor = virtuous. You know what Punjabis are like when they get a sniff of the good times or a clear run at life; it goes to their heads regardless of their religious moorings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 1:02 PM, proudkaur21 said: That is why sikhs need to do parchaar to non sikhs especially in India. Any sikh in the world is our brother/sister before some random atheist punjabi. There are many potential future sikhs in India. We need to do something. Yeah I really got those vibes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudkaur21 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 6:49 PM, GurjantGnostic said: Yeah I really got those vibes. wdym 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GurjantGnostic Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 hours ago, proudkaur21 said: wdym Your quote relates directly to my situation here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranjeet01 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 8:51 PM, MisterrSingh said: the vast majority of the followers belonging to an ethnicity that seems to delight or relish any bad luck or hard times for their own = a very bleak future. What is the punjabi word for Shadenfreude? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranjeet01 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 8:51 PM, MisterrSingh said: the vast majority of the followers belonging to an ethnicity that seems to delight or relish any bad luck or hard times for their own = a very bleak future. What is the punjabi word for Shadenfreude? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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