Well Done Sikhs Were In The Headlines

[singh598]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43505784

[GurjantGnostic]

That's unfortunate. Alcoholism in Britain has always been a huge problem period. 

I question the intention of the BBC writing an article that singles out Sikhs though. 

[Guest]

I did the survey and an interesting question showed up, it was:

"Do you think that the song lyrics in Bhangra and Punjabi music encourage people to drink alcohol?"

l replied yes. It's the truth.

Navjot says: "Our religion is so different from our actual culture itself - I don't know how the two got mixed up in the way that they have"

That is also true, being Punjabi doesn't mean you are a Sikh, or a fully committed Sikh either.

"There was quite a lot of alcohol involved in every ceremony. Even if it was a religious ceremony during the day, the men would just get together and open a bottle in the evening"

I don't know anyone who gets drunk before an Anand Karaj, it might happen but still...

Depends what the "religious ceremony" is. Most likely an Anand Karaj.

[Prokharkoo84]

sad thing about this article is, that it is 99% true. our community whether you class that as sikh or punjabi has this issue. from being someone who loved a good session with my cousins at the end of every family gathering, whether that was an akhand paat or wedding, i have experienced this first hand. i have also experienced having family members who were on the sesh everyday. whether we turn this into a sikh vs punjabi, singh vs monah issue, the fact is it affects us all. I dont know what i did to deserve  Guru's kirpa and managed to get away from this, but it is clear that we all need to help each other. 

[BhForce]

57 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

That's unfortunate. Alcoholism in Britain has always been a huge problem period. 

I question the intention of the BBC writing an article that singles out Sikhs though. 

You're right. It would be like an article on the prevalence of mithai (sweets) eating in India, but focusing not on Indians who eat tons of sweets, but rather on British expats living in India.

Or an article about immigrants in Ireland drinking too much, totally ignoring the environment in which they live (Irish are famous for drinking).

I would attribute this to the jihadis (practicing and non-practicing) that inhabit the BBC. None was a writer of this article, but could have been editors.

In any case the writers are: Anusha Kumar, Aidan Castelli & Chayya Syal.

The middle one would seem to be Italian. The first, a Hindu. The third says about her faith, "As someone from a faith that’s been berated and under siege for the last 2000 years". What would that be? Not Islam or Sikhism. Perhaps Hindu?

She also says

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"In addition, the report goes on to show three spikes in three communities where alcohol consumption and alcohol related deaths are the highest. They are Scottish, Irish and Indian communities. Many of us have heard about the Scottish and Irish stories, but what about the Indian story?"

Yet she chose to write not about "Indians", not even Punjabis in general, but to focus strangely even further only on a specific religious subset of Punjabis: the Sikhs. 

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As someone from a faith that’s been berated and under siege for the last 2000 years, I understand those emotions and reluctance only too well. It’s not fun feeling like a part of your identity is being ‘picked on’ or being used to pander to cultural stereotypes and that is the last thing that our project is doing.

And yet pandering to stereotypes is exactly what she is doing.

 

[BhForce]

6 hours ago, singh598 said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43505784

The article says "It's a problem which is rarely talked about openly in the community."

Huh? That's strange. Drinking is a hidden problem in the community? Everybody knows about it.

[ipledgeblue]

2 hours ago, BhForce said:

The article says "It's a problem which is rarely talked about openly in the community."

Huh? That's strange. Drinking is a hidden problem in the community? Everybody knows about it.

I know, it is drinking that is ruining sangats' ability to follow gurmat at the moment.

[jkvlondon]

4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

That's unfortunate. Alcoholism in Britain has always been a huge problem period. 

I question the intention of the BBC writing an article that singles out Sikhs though. 

and the fact that it was quite clearly written by non-sikhs  with a pronounced agenda . There are loads of alcoholics who are not violent but it doesn't make a juicy and castigating piece against sikhs.

[ipledgeblue]

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

and the fact that it was quite clearly written by non-sikhs  with a pronounced agenda . There are loads of alcoholics who are not violent but it doesn't make a juicy and castigating piece against sikhs.

and also we are also funding this BBC news by paying the tv licence fee.

Sometimes I feel like stop paying, but then parents want to watch the sikhi channels on the TV; I can just stream and watch Youtube.

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, ipledgeblue said:

and also we are also funding this BBC news by paying the tv licence fee.

Sometimes I feel like stop paying, but then parents want to watch the sikhi channels on the TV; I can just stream and watch Youtube.

the way it works is if you theoretically dtream from tv channels you have pay licence too, pants really