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I'm feeling really foul mouthed right now at these people.  Other sikhs and saudi wahibis who else demolishes their own heritage like that 

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7 minutes ago, puzzled said:

The 200 year old darshan deori at tarn taran sahib is getting demolished by kar sewa babas. That's another bit of our heritage going    gone ...

https://sikhsiyasat.net/2019/03/30/historic-darshani-deori-of-tarn-taran-sahib-being-demolished-tonight/

Huh? 

The article says sangat told the sevaks to stop, but they said they will do anything "Baba ji" tells them to do. 

Stupid beyond belief.

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26 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Huh? 

The article says sangat told the sevaks to stop, but they said they will do anything "Baba ji" tells them to do. 

Stupid beyond belief.

Sangat clearly don't want the ithiaask buildings demolished but the sewaks said they will demolish it because that what their kar sewa baba told them to do. 

Absolutely pathetic.

This baba is probably gnna get his name plastered on the sign board for his "sewa" 

The sewaks and this baba clearly went against the sangat wishes,  waheguru will judge the rest. 

Our historical buildings are a part of our ithiaas, demolishing them is demolishing part of our ithiaas.

I think tarn taran sahib gurdwara was constructed during the sikh empire, if they demolishing the darshan deori now then They will start demolishing the gurdwara.

 

 

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Most of our ithiaask buildings have actually been demolished in the name of kar sewa.

Kar sewa should be carried out differently when it comes to historical buildings.

The definition of kar sewa of old buildings should be renovating them not demolishing them and replacing it with a ugly marble building 

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Article says that they tried demolishing it during the day but sangat didn't let them so they gnna do it at night.

The person carrying it out is called kar sewa baba jagtar singh. 

Going against sangats wishes never ends well ...

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There's videos of the Baba on YouTube. From what I can tell he seems to be doing a fair bit of good for poor Sikhs without access to expensive healthcare. Perhaps he's being poorly advised (or not at all) on the issue of preserving historical buildings. It seems unless something is explicitly religious or spiritual in origin, the darn thing is coming tumbling down because Baba Ji ordered it so, lol.

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4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

There's videos of the Baba on YouTube. From what I can tell he seems to be doing a fair bit of good for poor Sikhs without access to expensive healthcare. Perhaps he's being poorly advised (or not at all) on the issue of preserving historical buildings. It seems unless something is explicitly religious or spiritual in origin, the darn thing is coming tumbling down because Baba Ji ordered it so, lol.

What use is your intellect and articulate posts here, if you can't do something for them in real life ??

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I fear why they do this. Could it be these "car sewaks" couldn't give a rats a** about future of sikhi and our heritage but are only concerned about filling their own pockets. Could it be all this "development" is just a facade to attract "sikh sangat" to visit the shrines and thus collect more donations to fill their own hungry pockets. IF SO, then isn't it prerogative of sangat too that we should make it loudly obvious that we would prefer visiting a historical broken gurudwara over a plastered white marble one,

that we would prefer the ruins of the wall in which sahibzade were bricked alive rather than getting the wall out and a golden palki kept in that place. Sikhs are in some deep mess and we collectively don't even realize it 

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Really sad that they’re doing this. What is the purpose of it all? Is it all funded by donations or are people being paid to demolish and rebuild, just so money can be moved around?

I agree with comments about renovation but you need people who are specialists in this area. 

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I think kar sewa is just filling their pockets, their gnna demolish the old structure but how much of the donations that they collected are they actually gnna use on the new structure?

And how is demolishing something and replacing it with another building kar sewa?  Thats just demolishing and replacing!  I thought kar sewa would be repairing.

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Why can they not just restore it? That is also Kar Seva.

If these Babas really want their name on the building and want $$$ in their pocket, restoring Historical buildings still gives them the same outcome. What incentive to they have to destroy it?

There has to some agenda to destroy our heritage.

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3 minutes ago, FreshMind13 said:

Why can they not just restore it? That is also Kar Seva.

If these Babas really want their name on the building and want $$$ in their pocket, restoring Historical buildings still gives them the same outcome. What incentive to they have to destroy it?

There has to some agenda to destroy our heritage.

They probably don't even know such a thing is possible. It's just about bulldozing it down, erecting something in its place, and receiving the plaudits thereafter. There's no love or grace or nurturing involved. And these people are meant to lead us to a brighter future? What a crock of bakwaas. Clueless. Absolutely clueless.

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Just now, MisterrSingh said:

They probably don't even know such a thing is possible. It's just about bulldozing it down, erecting something in its place, and receiving the plaudits thereafter. There's no love or grace or nurturing involved. And these people are meant to lead us to a brighter future? What a crock of bakwaas. Clueless. Absolutely clueless.

With the money, knowledge, and connections SGPC has, they should be hiring experts to preserve these buildings and solidify them for the coming centuries.

SGPC had to bring international scientists to make sure the Dukh Bhanjani Beri didn't DIE at Sri Darbar Sahib due to the Marble around it (which was put by Kar Seva Babas), the tree roots couldn't get enough nutrients. Why SGPC can't do the same with buildings baffles me.

There are also many other Historical trees in other gurdwaras that are either dead or dying, but no one cares as they aren't popular gurdwaras like Sri Darbar Sahib.

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14 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

They probably don't even know such a thing is possible. It's just about bulldozing it down, erecting something in its place, and receiving the plaudits thereafter. There's no love or grace or nurturing involved. And these people are meant to lead us to a brighter future? What a crock of bakwaas. Clueless. Absolutely clueless.

I think the thinking is that massive, imposing buildings impress and bring in more visitors and thus are a good thing compared to smaller, older structures. 

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