Why was Jathedar Baba Sahib Singh ji Kicked Out?

[proactive]

3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I have to say bro I actually like your arguments far better than I like Santa Singhs interview. Maybe you should be the Jathadar. Lol. I agree Nihang have been sidelined. But I don't necessarily agree with his responses. I agree Nihang a greater role and place in the Paanth than they have now. I do think sgpc needs a total reform as do all the Gurudwara collecting Daswandh before there. I'll have to come back later and read the rest of the debate. Good on you both. 

The fact is that Santa Singh's actions pretty much relegated the Nihangs to being viewed as a negative force within Sikhi by the vast majority of Sikhs. There are a few naive kids in the diaspora who never lived through 1984 and are impressed by and accept at face value the attempt to present Santa Singh as some Mahapurkh based on the Bhagti he did. Whether he did Bhagti or not is not an issue, what is an issue is the immense damage he did to us in 1984 by his actions. 

It is only now with the actions of the Nihangs and especially Baba Raja Raj Singh during the farmers agitation that they have managed to undo much of the damage that Santa Singh did to their reputation. 

[proactive]

9 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

It's just hilarious to me that these guys talk about the bias Indian media back in the 80s and 90s, hell even now, yet @proactiveis using an Indian media source published two months after the attack! Now they all of a sudden they can't twist anything or mistranslate but now he considers them a reliable source to question Baba Santa Singh Ji. The real question is would you use that same source, the Indian media, when they talked about the Lehar or Sant Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale? Stop it man. 

 

Keep thinking this man will bring you Khalistan 

If Pannun can get us Khaiistan then good on him. Unlike you I don't badmouth anyone who is trying to do something positive for Sikh freedom.

It is interesting that the ones who fought for Israel and created Israel (secular-leftists) were the ones who would be equated to MONAS in Sikhi and the ones who would be KHALSA among the Jews (orthodox) were the ones who were against Israel and some still make common cause with the Palestinians today to deny the right of Israel to exist. 

[Jassu]

1 minute ago, proactive said:

If Pannun can get us Khaiistan then good on him. Unlike you I don't badmouth anyone who is trying to do something positive for Sikh freedom.

It is interesting that the ones who fought for Israel and created Israel (secular-leftists) were the ones who would be equated to MONAS in Sikhi and the ones who would be KHALSA among the Jews (orthodox) were the ones who were against Israel and some still make common cause with the Palestinians today to deny the right of Israel to exist. 

I always found it weird why so many Sikhs support Palestine? That is disgusting. There are literally 30+ Muslim countries or whatever, they can just head on over there and disperse since Islam is the religion of peace and Muslims are like brothers to one another haha. *rolls eyes*.
Meanwhile we can’t even have one Sikh homeland. The state we have within a country is also getting lost gradually. It’s honestly so sad. I want to cry about it.

[GurjantGnostic]

16 minutes ago, Jassu said:

I always found it weird why so many Sikhs support Palestine? That is disgusting. There are literally 30+ Muslim countries or whatever, they can just head on over there and disperse since Islam is the religion of peace and Muslims are like brothers to one another haha. *rolls eyes*.
Meanwhile we can’t even have one Sikh homeland. The state we have within a country is also getting lost gradually. It’s honestly so sad. I want to cry about it.

That's pretty insensitive to the pre zionists who were brutalized there friend. Why should anyone feel sorry for you?

[GurjantGnostic]

24 minutes ago, proactive said:

If Pannun can get us Khaiistan then good on him. Unlike you I don't badmouth anyone who is trying to do something positive for Sikh freedom.

It is interesting that the ones who fought for Israel and created Israel (secular-leftists) were the ones who would be equated to MONAS in Sikhi and the ones who would be KHALSA among the Jews (orthodox) were the ones who were against Israel and some still make common cause with the Palestinians today to deny the right of Israel to exist. 

It doesn't but go on. 

It's more like if white people pretending to be Sikhs with the backing of world power established Khalistan in Punjab and then brutalized all the Punjabis, original Sikhs included. 

And when all the diaspora Sikhs tried to move there they get denied if they aren't white. 

There's hardly a Jew in israel bro. 

[Jassu]

5 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

That's pretty insensitive to the pre zionists who were brutalized there friend. Why should anyone feel sorry for you?

You are dumb and don’t even know the history of that land. Don’t feel sorry for us, fine. Don’t call yourself a Sikh and gtfo then

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, Jassu said:

You are dumb and don’t even know the history of that land. Don’t feel sorry for us, fine. Don’t call yourself a Sikh and gtfo then

Stretch first. 

I'm very familiar with the history. I am a Sikh. You can gtfo. And take your cheap perfume. 

[GurjantGnostic]

I support Khalistan. I don't feel sorry for your ignorant self entitled non compassionate attention seeking <banned word filter activated>. 

[Jassu]

White people just have a natural tendency to hate Jews. It’s ok, I understand veer ji loooool

[GurjantGnostic]

1 minute ago, Jassu said:

White people just have a natural tendency to hate Jews. It’s ok, I understand veer ji loooool

I'm not white and I love actual Jews. I love jewish people too just know who they are. You don't understand <banned word filter activated>.