Masturbation?

[NaamTiharoJoJape]

On 1/21/2021 at 8:28 AM, ipledgeblue said:

I mean grandparents generation they used to just marry you off as a teenager and then you didn't need to do all this stuff.

Guru ji said go into grihast jeevan, live the life of a householder.

Please - it is not my fault we have taken a western lifestyle and are marrying late, leaving us vulnerable to 5 vikaar!

 

Please excuse me....

I have had this theory for some while 

it is harder to abstain nowadays because we get married so late (into our 30s, or perhaps late twenties at best)

back in the day Id be a father by 17 lol 

not a excuse, just a interesting thought 

it was also easier to control kaam towards others because good chances were, you were betrothed after age of 12

[jjs8]

On 1/20/2021 at 2:24 AM, Ocdperson said:

So as a teenager, hormones are in full effect. And I’m not going to act like there aren’t beautiful girls around the world I feel attracted to. I am confused on masturbation, is it fine to do in Sikhism? I know that the main problem everyone has with masturbation is Lust. And from seeing different opinions from people, I am confused. Lust is the bad part because it makes you forget Naam. But doesn’t watching YouTube or a movie make you technically forget Naam too? The first thing I do in the morning is to pray to God and talk with God. Everyday I feel like I remember God and Naam. So I am confused on what is bad about masturbation done moderately. If forgetting Naam is a reason, don’t I do the same thing when watching tv or playing a sport or when I’m in school? Say this, If I daily  pray and talk with God and remember God, is it bad for me to masturbate moderately to attractive girls in Sikhism? Because I feel like I remember God everyday. People say The bad part of Lust is forgetting Naam but I am confused, aren’t I technically forgetting Naam while doing things that take my full attention for example like school, sports, movies. Can I balance my sexual life and my religious within Sikhism? I mean no disrespect, just curious. 

Good question.

I will tell you from my experience. Was heavily involved in Kaam when growing up. Was always a Singh but grew up as a troubled kid and at one point drinking, smoking weed, checking out girls and watching porn was the norm. 

But one day heard Sant Kartar Singh Bhindrawale's Katha on youtube and this changed my life. He emphasized on the mind which really made me listen. However, overtime my mental stability declined and my mom decided to take me to India. Learnt a lot from the trip but when coming back started getting into trouble with the law and was incarcerated a couple of times. 

10 years later still trying to get my mind under control. Probably at the same point now before going to India but more connected to Gurbani and naam. Waking up early in the morning, reciting naam and meditating helps a lot to keep the mind under control. Going for long walks and listening to kirtan helps too. 

You are pretty much awake and probably more wiser than myself. But you will slowly start to understand when you gain divine knowledge. In this game of life you probably won't entirely avoid Kaam but slowly you will understand what Guru Granth Sahib Ji is trying to say. 

Please never forget Guru Granth Sahib Ji cuz sometimes it feel likes there will be very Sikhs left that will keep Guru Ji in their chit. But that's another topic. 

[Singh1989]

Refrain from masturbation, meditate a little each day. In 6 months you will start seeing the light of Guru Ji. 

Masturbate once a while, meditate a lot... 20 years STILL NOTHING! No light, no feeling of Amrit within. That monthly masturbation puts you on square 1.