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36 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Yep very narrow minded thinking in panth. we need maya as shatsaar..and we wander why have sellouts' in our kaum and same issues again and again etc...its not Rocket science. Money = Power...

Dont agree with all they have done, but being themselves a persecuted minority and being wiped out almost we can learn from Jewish community. The acquisition of capital + influence they required to make themselves powerful today.

 

Rightly said but sadly we dont have a plan neither we are willing to have one. The only plan sikhs have is what to do in next langar and what should be the decoration off next divan.

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5 hours ago, Shaheed4life said:

I know why 2021, i mentioned in some of my older posts.2037 will be an important year for victory.

I have set a reminder for 31st Dec 2021 in my google calendar. I will bump this thread.

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1 hour ago, jassa said:

Rightly said but sadly we dont have a plan neither we are willing to have one. The only plan sikhs have is what to do in next langar and what should be the decoration off next divan.

Invest stock market, invest crypto currency even if we have handful Khalsa Billionaires or those can afford to invest in seva for panth, we can create a lobby and influence in West. Maybe buy island. Read Jews were offered an African island after holocaust and ready to accept before they got Israel. Time Frame 5-10 yrs.

 

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5 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

Yep very narrow minded thinking in panth. we need maya as shatsaar..and we wander why have sellouts' in our kaum and same issues again and again etc...its not Rocket science. Money = Power...

Dont agree with all they have done, but being themselves a persecuted minority and being wiped out almost we can learn from Jewish community. The acquisition of capital + influence they required to make themselves powerful today.

 

Only a few things they do work for other people. Like Kibutz and compulsory military service.

You can't model success for opressed people on the jews. They're imperial zionists with the same money and backing as the rest of the IMP erials, and a green light to do whatever they want with massive and high tech military weapons they were given. 

Unless you think the un is going to hand you somebody elses country, back the lie you were ever from there, and give you trillions in aid and weapons you can't use the israeli model. 

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1 hour ago, Shaheed4life said:

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh

This is why we don't talk about it.Everything out of a persons understanding is mocked.But it's fine, you are the Sangat and you are wiser than me.I am just a moorakh.

Bhul Chuk Maf ?

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh

Maharaj Kirpa, hopefully the Khalsa panth is prosperous in these times and onwards. 

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5 hours ago, Suchi said:

Isn't that the basis of all wars/invasions. To try and get your house by stealing it. Same as what happened to all of the Americas, Asia, Africa.  Old habits die hard. 

Right. That can't or shouldn't be emulated however. Nor does it legitimize anyone's claim to stolen land. 

So for Khalsa Raj, self determined localities must collaborate into representative federations. So that it's decentralized, ground up, and consensual. 

Or in chaos Khalsa Fauj have to step in and provide Degh, Tegh, Fateh then steward and protect the local populations of those places. Leaving them to self govern after, with a Takht left in place to collaborate with all the similar Takhts left behind in creative chaos. 

For which only some things istael did can be emulated. 

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7 minutes ago, Suchi said:

In India there is already a decentralised system of govt via the panchayat system. However it is being subverted by the threat of fines, violence,  excommunication for noncompliance with the diktaks of bigger players such as trade unions. Financial inducements in exchange for votes have ruined states such as West bengal, Delhi and others. Punjab has been destroyed by the missionaries. 

Western systems of control have caused widespread corruption ie . top down system of democracy essentially means an elected dictatorship. 

Perhaps you can try to set an example where you are and show us how its done. 

Working on that bro. Don't let it keep us from talking about things in general or thinking about it yourself or offering your own ideas. 

Whatever they tell you in hindustan you have you don't. It's a mad racist nationalised intolerant terror state unfortunately with something to prove. 

If power was decentralized and ground up farmers protest boom solved, in fact never happened. 

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