CHANDI DI VAAR MARYADA

[GurjantGnostic]

4 minutes ago, dharamyudh said:

Odd right. So apparently Sikhs are respected in Iran. Also, Iran sent some of their priests to meet with the Akaal Takht jathedar a couple of months ago (or year ago). 

Geographically and historically Iran is very very interesting.

In the modern world it's hard to not lump them in with russia and turkey etc. They have a slave name as a nation still. But that could be anybody until order is restored. 

The fact it was priests sent is interesting though. More compelling than politicians. 

Eye on Iran for sure for all sorts of interesting. 

[Sewadar]

We cannot allow Suchi's thread and replies. His posts are now restricted.

[GurjantGnostic]

3 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

Uh no? Please enlighten me on the symbolic meaning of Kaali. Truth of the matter, it was all cultural. It was symbolism. Doesn't mean we worship it. 

The timelines and nature of Devte and their roles are clearly explained in Gurbani. Everyone used a dhal in battle too, and had it emblazoned on things, doesn't mean everyone was worshipping it. Agreed.

Don't see original post to respond. 

[GurjantGnostic]

50 minutes ago, dharamyudh said:

Essentially they ransacked the country and left India destitute.  The name India was already commonplace as it was Christopher Columbus that went looking for it in 1492 and found America instead, hence naming of the Caribbean Islands, the West Indies

He went exactly where he wanted. That's a narrative. He found exactly who and what he was looking for. And did exactly what they intended. 

[dharamyudh]

29 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Geographically and historically Iran is very very interesting.

In the modern world it's hard to not lump them in with russia and turkey etc. They have a slave name as a nation still. But that could be anybody until order is restored. 

The fact it was priests sent is interesting though. More compelling than politicians. 

Eye on Iran for sure for all sorts of interesting. 

 

tribuneindia.com/news/archive/punjab/two-iranian-varsities-want-to-set-up-chair-in-guru-nanak-s-name-859608

Ah it was the President of the Religion faculty at a University in Iran wanting to start something with Sikhi. Probably an imam anyways. 

[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, dharamyudh said:

Second video touches upon what EUROPEANS called modern day India - thus an influence for Columbus. Inhabitants of India didn't call it India. Common name was Hindustan, literally "Land of the Hindus," and Hind. Especially considering the context when the Gurus lived. Indian/Hindu was the same thing. 

I've been confused about this. In a past post to @Suchi I said I didn't even like the word Hindu. I wanted to clarify and ask..

I though Hindu meant thief in Arabic and had been applied to the people and area. I heard Sant Jarnail Singh Bhinderwale Shaheed Ji say something like that. And that all the Vedas and Puranas etc use the word Brahman. So it left me feeling like using the word Hindu was nonsense and an insult ultimately to Vedic culture and its' people. 

Oh shoot. Lemme watch that video...

[intrigued]

Think Bhai Jagraj Singh said once that during the Gurus time Hindu meant the common man or woman

[puzzled]

7 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I though Hindu meant thief in Arabic and had been applied to the people and area.

It doesn't mean thief but the Muslim invaders used the word Hindu as a slur, it became synonyms with thief, black, heathen etc 

Early Muslims invaders used the word Hindu for the inhabitants of South Asia, but later the word was used for non-Muslim South Asians. 

They ruled over Hindus for around 800 years, so started seeing Hindus as sub humans, so the word Hindu became a slur.

A bit like how in the west the word gypsy is used to offend people.

For example Rumi, the Persian Sufi, described Hindus as Black dogs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

As someone who grew up with a lot of Pakistanis around me, they actually still do use "Hindu" and "jew/yahudi" as insults. So when a Muslim wants to insult another Muslim, they call them "Hindu" or "jew/yahudi"  I've heard this many times!

Muslims ruled over Hindus for so many centuries so its no surprise the word had negative connotations.  

When Pathans/Afghans ruled India, after finishing chewing on betel leaf, they used to either spit it out in a mandir or in a Brahmins mouth. Brahmins had no option but to kneel down and open their mouths so the Pathan could spit his betel leaf out.

Kashmiri Hindus used to disfigure their daughters and daughter-in-laws hoping that Muslims wouldn't kidnap them. Its no surprise majority Kashmiris converted to Islam. 

They basically saw Hindus as sub-humans, so they felt it was their right to do whatever they like with Hindu women and temples. 

Its only when Hari Singh Nalwa entered Kashmir he gave Hindus who had been forced to convert to Islam the option of converting back to Hindusim, and around 30,000 Hindus became Hindus again.

There has been a Gurdwara in Dubai for a very long time, but its only recently that some government gave Hindus permission to build a mandir there, think the Muslims denied the construction of a mandir because of idols. So for over 10 years it was Sikhs in Dubai that gave Hindus a room within the Gurdwara building to use as a mandir. 

The number of times Sikhs throughout history have been helping Hindus!  who today are quite ungrateful.

So you can see why the word Hindu was used as an insult by the Muslims ... 

 

 

[puzzled]

I recently read a historical account on when the Afghans invaded Kashmir. Invaders used tie Kashmiri Hindu men with trees! they then used to place a pot full of poo and wee on his head and start target practicing using arrows! so when the arrow hit the pot all the poo and wee would dribble all over the Hindu! and if the arrow missed then it would obviously hit his face instead and he would die! 

With the Hindu Kashmiri women, the Hindu men would disfigure the faces and bodies of the women hoping that the Pathans wouldn't kidnap them. 

Kashmiris throughout the centuries have been considered the most attractive people of South Asia, so I'd imagine Kashmiri women were a popular target with the invaders. Its no surprise majority converted to Islam.

When Hari Singh Nalwa and Ranjit Singh began Sikh Raj in Kashmir, the locals were given the freedom of converting back to Hindu dharam and over 30,000 converted back. Many also became Sikhs as well.

Guru Tegh Bahadur ji saving Kashmiri Hindus is known by everyone in South Asia, but its forgotten that the same thing happened during the Sikh empire. 

[Suchi]

17 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Bro..how you gonna say things got ished by the brits then only reference things written post pommies?

*Deleted*