Jap Ji Sahib Katha

[Premi5]

7 minutes ago, PuzzledToo said:

I hope you are not angry with me as it was not my intention to offend anyone.

I made that remark because I am privy to some information provided to me by a reputable source that has no reason to lie but I'm not at liberty to discuss it to protect those who are involved. Lets just leave it at this.

People have agendas

I and other relatives have spent a lot of time with Giani ji, so I think there is much more to that story than came out in the media. Also, please be aware if not already, that Giani Thakur Singh Ji was very close to Sant Jarnail ji Bhindranwale

[PuzzledToo]

8 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

People have agendas

I and other relatives have spent a lot of time with Giani ji, so I think there is much more to that story than came out in the media. 

So you are right and everyone else has agenda? OK noted.

8 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Also, please be aware if not already, that Giani Thakur Singh Ji was very close to Sant Jarnail ji Bhindranwale

And? Your point?

[MisterrSingh]

23 hours ago, Premi5 said:

What's your point exactly ?

Given what the news and history tells us, there are two sides to every story and I would be very sceptical about   believing the woman

Some Sikhs seem to be drawn to all the wrong people. I've said it before and I'll say it again: when you throw reason to the wind and find yourself compelled to defend the indefensible, you're on the fast track to wasting this particular janam by attaching your "life force" to such men. You will regret it, if not during life then certainly after death.

[Premi5]

16 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Some Sikhs seem to be drawn to all the wrong people. I've said it before and I'll say it again: when you throw reason to the wind and find yourself compelled to defend the indefensible, you're on the fast track to wasting this particular janam by attaching your "life force" to such men. You will regret it, if not during life then certainly after death.

That's your view, i will stick to mine, thank you

[dallysingh101]

Let me throw my unsolicited two rupees worth in.

In the larger scale of things, him allegedly trying to kiss some adult broad, although not good given his position, is pretty minor compared to other crap going on in the panth/world.

From what I hear, he is not allowed out of India now, so if it's a punishment you want, he got one.  

[MisterrSingh]

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Let me throw my unsolicited two rupees worth in.

In the larger scale of things, him allegedly trying to kiss some adult broad, although not good given his position, is pretty minor compared to other crap going on in the panth/world.

From what I hear, he is not allowed out of India now, so if it's a punishment you want, he got one.  

It's the justifications he provided in defence of his misjudged deed that are simultaneously hilarious and infuriating. Hilarious because the things he uses to shield him from criticism are all things that religious Sikhs are raised to view as sacred. Infuriating because those very same things take on a most profane sheen to get himself off the hook. You only have to listen to the man speak for 5 minutes to realise he's... not the kind of figure to be taken seriously at all. There's too many of these chancers who've been enabled into prominence in the panth by their loyal fan base.

[dallysingh101]

6 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

It's the justifications he provided in defence of his misjudged deed that are simultaneously hilarious and infuriating. Hilarious because the things he uses to shield him from criticism are all things that religious Sikhs are raised to view as sacred. Infuriating because those very same things take on a most profane sheen to get himself off the hook. You only have to listen to the man speak for 5 minutes to realise he's... not the kind of figure to be taken seriously at all. There's too many of these chancers who've been enabled into prominence in the panth by their loyal fan base.

Come on, in terms of exposition, he was heads and shoulders above the rest with his katha. 

[Redoptics]

This has gone way off topic, can we please stick to the topic,  thank you in advance.

[dallysingh101]

On 9/12/2021 at 8:34 AM, Premi5 said:

Anyone able to recommend clear and simple Jap Ji Sahib Katha, in Punjabi audio that they recommend ?

Thanks

You should try reading Prof. Sahib Singh's teeka as well. Here's an English translation of some of it:

https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/13297-english-translation-of-prof-sahib-singhs-katha-of-japji-sahib/?tab=comments#comment-117311

[Redoptics]

9 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

You should try reading Prof. Sahib Singh's teeka as well. Here's an English translation of some of it:

https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/13297-english-translation-of-prof-sahib-singhs-katha-of-japji-sahib/?tab=comments#comment-117311

A lot of meaning derived from Sanskrit , did the meaning translate over into Gurmukhi? Hmmm think i need to study a bit on this, thank you for this though