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2 hours ago, Premi5 said:

According to some, Islamic extremists are a big influence behind the scenes. 

I don't really know otherwise. But Imran Khan might be a 'lesser evil' compared to some (I mean he might be a 'good person' relative to others) which might not be a good thing for other countries who want to have influence on Pakistan. 

He was well known in the UK and other commonwealth countries where cricket is popular prior to his career in politics, as he is Pakistan's greatest sportsman.

Further to your point in this thread, going off tangent slightly. Anyone have any thoughts on his former marriage to Jemima Goldsmith, who is from a family connected to Rothschilds ? I think it was mentioned that it was a sort of 'arranged marriage' ?

Who do we surmise pulls pakistans strings?

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16 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Who do we surmise pulls pakistans strings?

Military seems very powerful 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/opinion/pakistan-politicians-military.html

How Pakistan’s Politicians Help the Military

Every time civilian politicians bend laws to accommodate the generals, they damage long-term prospects for democracy.

Jan. 23, 2020
 

By Aqil Shah

Mr. Shah is the author of “The Army and Democracy: Military Politics in Pakistan.

Since its foundation in 1947, Pakistan has spent more than three decades under military rule. Even when out of power, the military has exerted behind-the-scenes influence to maintain its firm grip on politics and national security. Establishing democratic institutions, including civilian control of the military, has thus been an arduous process riddled with uncertainty, backsliding and reversal.

 

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The military rule the country without a doubt They select Prime Ministers to convey the pretence of democracy to save face. As long as the handpicked stooge goes along with everything the military says, he's safe. When he or she begin to go off script, they either get sacked or killed. The question is who ultimately has the military's ear.

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@shastarSingh were you a fan of Imran Khan in cricket ?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-61055210.amp

Imran Khan ousted as Pakistan's PM after key vote

9 April 2022
Updated 5 hours ago
 

Pakistan's Prime Minister Imran Khan has been ousted from power after losing a no-confidence vote in his leadership.

The vote was held past midnight after opposition parties brought a motion against him, following days of drama.

The motion was first brought against Mr Khan last week, but he blocked it by dissolving parliament. 

Sunday's vote took place after the country's Supreme Court ruled in favour of opposition parties and said that Mr Khan had acted unconstitutionally.

Mr Khan is now the first Pakistani prime minister to be ousted by a no-confidence vote.

Pakistan's parliament will meet to vote for the country's new leader on Monday.

That person will be able to hold power until October 2023, when the next election is due to be held.

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17 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:

I wouldn't be surprised if America is behind this. When the war in Ukraine started Imran Khan was in Moscow kissing Putin's hand. This has obviously upset them very much.

Perhaps America has a lot of say over the Pak army.

I think they have very strong, long time contacts going at least back to the 80s when the yanks supported the mujahaideen (with training, intel and equipment) against the russians. Actually I think both brits and yank intelligence orgs have long established relationships with some of these people from that period. Brits probably even longer - all the way from partition itself.  

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Democracy is very bad. 

If a village is full of bad people, a politician will hv to lie to please people in that village to get votes.

Democracy in our Gurdwawas has RUINED us. That's why nihangs shud control our gurdwaras. Just look at SGPC.

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1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

Democracy is very bad. 

If a village is full of bad people, a politician will hv to lie to please people in that village to get votes.

Democracy in our Gurdwawas has RUINED us. That's why nihangs shud control our gurdwaras. Just look at SGPC.

Over it. Democracy cancelled. 

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On 4/7/2022 at 2:46 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

Also please share thoughts on who really runs Pakistan. Our brothers are interested in our thoughts. 

Military, the ISI which comprises of serving military officers from 3 branches of the military that reports to the PM and the Chief of Army staff, Uncle SAM and not to forget Pakistan's economic lifeline, Saudi Arabia.

 

Officials in the U.S. alliance believe Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have an understanding in which Islamabad would supply the kingdom with warheads if security in the Persian Gulf was threatened. A U.S. official told The Times that Riyadh could have the nuclear warheads in a matter of days of approaching Islamabad. Pakistan's ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Mohammed Naeem Khan, was quoted as saying that "Pakistan considers the security of Saudi Arabia not just as a diplomatic or an internal matter but as a personal matter." Naeem also said that the Saudi leadership considered Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to be one country. Any threat to Saudi Arabia is also a threat to Pakistan.[24] Other vendors were also likely to enter into a bidding war if Riyadh indicated that it was seeking nuclear warheads. Both Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have denied the existence of any such agreement.[25] Western intelligence sources have told The Guardian that the Saudi monarchy has paid for up to 60% of the Pakistan's atomic bomb projects and in return has the option to buy five to six nuclear warheads off the shelf.[26]

 

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10 minutes ago, PuzzledToo said:

Military, the ISI which comprises of serving military officers from 3 branches of the military that reports to the PM and the Chief of Army staff, Uncle SAM and not to forget Pakistan's economic lifeline, Saudi Arabia.

 

Officials in the U.S. alliance believe Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have an understanding in which Islamabad would supply the kingdom with warheads if security in the Persian Gulf was threatened. A U.S. official told The Times that Riyadh could have the nuclear warheads in a matter of days of approaching Islamabad. Pakistan's ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Mohammed Naeem Khan, was quoted as saying that "Pakistan considers the security of Saudi Arabia not just as a diplomatic or an internal matter but as a personal matter." Naeem also said that the Saudi leadership considered Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to be one country. Any threat to Saudi Arabia is also a threat to Pakistan.[24] Other vendors were also likely to enter into a bidding war if Riyadh indicated that it was seeking nuclear warheads. Both Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have denied the existence of any such agreement.[25] Western intelligence sources have told The Guardian that the Saudi monarchy has paid for up to 60% of the Pakistan's atomic bomb projects and in return has the option to buy five to six nuclear warheads off the shelf.[26]

 

Very smart on the part of the Saudis. It's one way of getting around the restriction of not making their own nukes. To be fair, it's quite similar to the relationship between the US and Israel from a defence perspective.

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