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2 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

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Why is it only Sikhs getting killed in gangs or 'accidents'..why not Shiv sena leaders / bollywood/ politicians  

First thing, (for probably a variety of reasons) some Sikhs seem more inclined to join/form gangs. Then when they do, many are in your face about it. People (gairhSikhs) like this get killed in London regularly. You mark yourself out, and the easiest and quickest way for upcoming street guys to make a rep for themselves is to knock off a prominent figure. A lot of crook types I've met over the years (not by choice) keep a low profile and try and hide their shyte (for what I thought was obvious reasons but it seems in places like Canada the police are completely useless), or they live in small bubbles of generally other similar types and their families. Apnay, on the contrary, will literally make a song and dance about their gangsterism, bringing every last c**t's attention to it. They love attention so much they don't want to live under the radar like someone intelligent might do (not least of all because they might get their shyte taken off them by the authorities).  So they'll be on everyone's radar, the police, rival gangs, jealous members of their own crews. That environment is full of psychopaths and sociopaths who rarely have any loyalty to anyone, and actually live for that game of one-up-manship. So when they set someone up, they get off on it. Plus Panjabis are probably generally more violent than those other groups you mention and get all hot headed and make moves without thinking too much under certain circumstances. Plus I bet you behind every last apna that has been knocked off under suspicious circumstances, there has been at least one if not a bunch of our own readily involved. 

Sister with all respect, I tell you what worries me about how you are going on. Really, the death level in the community right now is minor. It was MUCH worse when I was growing up. And other communities have had it MUCH worse (i.e. like afghans, or now russians or ukrainians). Now if it ever actually got serious again like it did in the mid 80s till about the early 90s in a jungh situation, how you're behaving would demoralise the panth. These things happen. Get used to it. Toughen yourself up for your own and all of our sakes.  No disrespect.

 

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1 hour ago, proudkaur21 said:

We were almost decimated once before too. I know that as long as we stay true to the guru there will be a way. God will make the circumstances that will pave the way for us to rise again just like it was last time. That doesnt mean we have to put no effort. Look at ukraine. Dont think a few months ago anyone thought this would happen. The world is unpredictable. Anything can happen at any moment. I just know that god will never let the truth be lost. 

When the United States sent Ukraine military aid and support, they didn't send them bandages, Dettol, and a shoulder to cry on.

You realise American and British special forces are most likely tearing up Russian forces over there? The wind didn't just change, and a useless little country like Ukraine started to stem the Russian tide. Why'd do you think there's a selective media dampening of coverage? When the Yanks and British hand Ukraine victory, then the Western propaganda will start up again about the resilient Ukrainian fightback against the Russian Goliath.

Sikh's craving saviours is why we're going to disappear.

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2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

When the United States sent Ukraine military aid and support, they didn't send them bandages, Dettol, and a shoulder to cry on.

You realise American and British special forces are most likely tearing up Russian forces over there? The wind didn't just change, and a useless little country like Ukraine started to stem the Russian tide. Why'd do you think there's a selective media dampening of coverage? When the Yanks and British hand Ukraine victory, then the Western propaganda will start up again about the resilient Ukrainian fightback against the Russian Goliath.

Sikh's craving saviours is why we're going to disappear.

Not saying we need a saviour but circumstances can change in our favour. Offcourse we need to put in effort and work and not wait for someone to come save us. 

I know ukraine is getting military help but I dont know what is happening over there at all or who is even winning. My point was none of us thought that in 2022 ukraine would get invaded. So the state of the world can change anytime.

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16 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

First thing, (for probably a variety of reasons) some Sikhs seem more inclined to join/form gangs. Then when they do, many are in your face about it. People (gairhSikhs) like this get killed in London regularly. You mark yourself out, and the easiest and quickest way for upcoming street guys to make a rep for themselves is to knock off a prominent figure. A lot of crook types I've met over the years (not by choice) keep a low profile and try and hide their shyte (for what I thought was obvious reasons but it seems in places like Canada the police are completely useless), or they live in small bubbles of generally other similar types and their families. Apnay, on the contrary, will literally make a song and dance about their gangsterism, bringing every last c**ts attention to it. They love attention so much they don't want to live under the radar like someone intelligent might do (not least of all because they might get their shyte taken off them by the authorities).  So they'll be on everyone's radar, the police, rival gangs, jealous members of their own crews. That environment is full of psychopaths and sociopaths who rarely have any loyalty to anyone, and actually live for that game of one-up-manship. So when they set someone up, they get off on it. Plus Panjabis are probably generally more violent than those other groups you mention and get all hot headed and make moves without thinking too much under certain circumstances. Plus I bet you behind every last apna that has been knocked off under suspicious circumstances, there has been at least one if not a bunch of our own readily involved. 

Sister with all respect, I tell you what worries me about how you are going on. Really, the death level in the community right now is minor. It was MUCH worse when I was growing up. And other communities have had it MUCH worse (i.e. like afghans, or now russians or ukrainians). Now if it ever actually got serious again like it did in the mid 80s till about the early 90s in a jungh situation, how you're behaving would demoralise the panth. These things happen. Get used to it. Toughen yourself up for your own and all of our sakes.  No disrespect.

 

But those other communities have a huge population too compared to us.

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