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Now please be patient with me as I have asked before I want allowed to know my culture growing up as my family was converted to christianity in the early 1900a during the great depression. My great grandmother: the things I remember most about my great grandmother was her positivity, her eagerness to play with us kids, and joy in life. When my great grandmother was 12 years old, her family, which not much is known about them abandoned her. She came home from school to find an empty house. This was not uncommon during the depression as families were starving and dying. A 40 year old man took her in and married her at the age of 12 I never had the pleasure of meeting this man, but my mother had told me stories of him and before anyone judges what he did, she tells me that he was the kindest, sincerest, wonderful man she ever met. My lineage comes from highly spiritually adept people called shamans/healers. The media portrays us as magic dealers, consulting with demons, and stuff like that. And some of it has to do with consulting spirits, but not all spirits are bad. And I say spirits very lightly because what they are are other beings that inhabit a different dimension. These beings have the capability to perform extra ordinary feats because they are able to travel between worlds. My mom would not allow my great grandmother to teach us these things, however she would teach us in indirect ways. She always played with us with stuffed animals and would explain how each animal had a purpose and an inner being that must be respected. When an animal its killed the whole animal must be used to respect the creation. And after the animal dies,a prayer must be said over it to bless the reincarnated soul. My great aunt picked up where she left off after she died, which had a huge impact on me. She died at age 82 and not just a few hours before that had been playing basketball with the boys. Now in cherokee belief, a shaman may our may not be passed through blood. Most times it is though. The next spiritually adept one in the family was her daughter, my great aunt. My great aunt lived way out in the country in a cedar house. She always had owls living in her house,I remember that clearly. I lived going to visit her. I would catch these little lizards and bring them to her to show her, she would let them go inside the house, because living amongst animals or living creatures in general is part of life and each living soul had a purpose to fulfill. The lizards ate the bugs in the house. And the owls were the lizards now the next adept person was me. like I was saying before, it may or may not be genetics that creates a shaman, but the positioning of the stars and planets. Everything from the smallest atom to the universe itself affects each other. Even so far away the stars can and do affect the growth of life. My time of birth happened to fall under the changing season on a specific day when the jaguar star shone down...what this means is that anyone born under this star, and genetics help too, will most likely have energetic abilities. The ability to affect and manipulate a persons energy, or aura. She only taught me healing rituals, not destructive, and I'm not so sure I want to know those. The belief in God differs from tribe to tribe, but there is a definite belief in creators. Yes, plural, creators of human beings, now the question arises as to if they created humans or just manipulated their genes, which its more leaned to...but also stories are told of them not only manipulating humans, but animals as well. There its said of a certain lake in Oklahoma, lake eucha (pronounced uchi) that one of these creatures still reside, I used to live near it, never saw it, but its supposed to be HUMONGOUS snake like creature...some people even call it the "Oklahoma octopus" Totems, are used to commemorate the dead, not to worship.the reason totems are many times made in the form of animals is because each human existence Carries the spirit of an animal through the reincarnation process. When you were born, how you act, and what you look likee are all determining factors in knowing your previous existence. Cherokee children, in the true lifestyle are not named until they reach the age when personality forms, around 7 to 10 years old. Okay its getting late and I got to work early, if yall have questions feel free to ask,I don't know everything, but I can try to explain as much as I know

thanks, made the correction. just posted another article about "the last sikh warrior"

Mumbai, October 03, 2012 Upon his arrival in India, Lt. Gen K.S. Brar confessed to having cooked up his attack story. "I had lost all my money in gambling at the casino right across the hotel where I was staying. My wife was furious at me and threw whatever she got her hands on, which resulted in the injuries you are seeing". According to reports, it was Mrs. Brar's idea to cause a hype by blaming the injuries on so-called "Khalistani extremists". "We had no other way", said a sobbing Meena Brar. "We didn't have a single penny to even buy a ticket back home, so we had to do this to get a free air passage back home". Investigations are on regarding which utensil was used to thrash the retired officer. Inspector Betaal Margaye, the investigating officer from Mumbai police was particularly enraged. "It is a matter of severe shame for the entire country that a decorated soldier of Gen. Brar's caliber is addicted to gambling and wasting government funds for his own pleasure". Margaye also said that Brar would be fined Rs. 100/- for causing public outcry without legible cause. His wife would be fined Rs. 35/- for spousal abuse. Just kidding guys, chill out! :D

Singho - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Genuine or Troll, what does it matter? All these questions are valid regardless who's asking them! For the simple fact that we should have every answer or rebuttal imprinted on our brains as standard! If we cannot answer them and instead try to turn our lack of humbleness &/or knowledge in to an attack, then "where are we on the scale of Maharaj's path of truth?" I respect all you Brothers and Sister's that post on this forum everyday, but please take a step back and think what our 11 Maharaj's would do with questioning such as this. Please as your younger brother ;-) don't be mogals, be Gursikhs

One word.. PATHETIC

Guys like this are utter scum. Silver tongues and a debonair attitude get them far in endeavours such as these. Having come across many cases such as these I am also rather surprised how little it takes for the female on the receiving end to fall into their clutches. It really is a case of weaving an intricate back story, paying attention to the girl, and telling her what she wants to hear, and job done. Whilst I honestly don't share the opinion that "It's the girls fault" I do think some females make it very, very easy for idiots such as these to succeed. To be always on the lookout for "love" is probably one of the reasons crap like this happens.

Imagine if this money went to gareeb people in Punjab with sewa. That would be the best way to preserve our history. If they really wanted to preserve history, preserve what's left of all our ithihaasic buildings. Gurudwara pakke hogaye, par Sikh kache!

Lori Its just that in the past we have had individuals with ulterior motives come to this forum and subtly force Islam on Sikhs. What you've been facing is a kneejerk reaction. I am not justifying it, its just unfortunate, however, please don't hesitate to post. You can ignore the posts you find are rude/arrogant and we will monitor those posters. Thanks

i guess its not the message he's addressing, but the messenger. Bit harsh KGM, sometimes you need to fight fire with fire.

I think everyone is getting fed up with the fojis and their mentality, some "fojis" they turned out to be. They've completely brought down the community. And they work for practically nothing which has affected the so many of the industries our oldies worked in.

http://www.sikh24.com/2012/10/the-casual-vacancy-reviewed/#.UGyRyJhyWSo JK Rowling: The Casual Vacancy, Reviewed by Guest Columnist By: Kamalpreet Kaur (Guest Columnist) I’ve just finished reading The Casual Vacancy by J.K. Rowling and would like to start off by declaring that it has nothing negative to say about Sikhs or Sikhi but actually depicts a second generation British Sikh family with extreme accuracy. Pagford is a small British town yet each of its inhabitants display characteristics that tell a much bigger story of society in general. Although we meet each of the 34 main characters rather briefly, each one is fully developed in personality and emotion due to Rowling’s impeccable literary talent. The Casual Vacancy started off as a slow read but remains a rather worthwhile and eye opening one. Rowling’s book on the surface may just be about a small town and the life of its inhabitants but deep down it relays a message about how society operates. It gives us not just the black and white but a closer look in the greys as well. Throughout the book you obtain understanding of each character and what makes them the way they are. Perhaps it is the realistic depiction and authenticity of each character that causes one to reflect on life and begin to see others more humanely. Overall there is a character and struggle everyone can relate to or reflect on. The hero of the novel dies within the first few pages. His death seems to put everything and everyone in Pagford out of balance and yet it is death again at the end of the novel that brings about calmness once more. One of the main characters, Sukhvinder Jawanda, is dehumanized by her classmates for having excessive facial hair. Furthermore, because she isn’t academically bright like her siblings she is constantly told that she isn’t good enough by her mother and largely ignored by her father. You get to read the verbal and cyber bullying Sukhvinder consistently endures and understand why she has developed such a heightened and deadly sense of self hate. Although I have never been bullied for facial hair, I read a passage in the book to a young Sikh girl who has, and she said, “That’s exactly the kinds of things they say,” in reference to the terms hermaphrodite, he-she, and hairy ape. J.K. Rowling did a brilliant job of showing Sukhvinder’s struggles that definitely make the reader reflect if they’ve ever been a bully and think twice about ever bullying anyone again. Parminder Jawanda, Sukhvinder’s mother is a doctor and well known town council member who values Guru Nanak Dev Ji. She often keeps herself strong by remembering Gurbani tukhs (we only see the English translations) and does Kirtan Sohila every night. Her husband Vikram is indifferent to Sikhi. He is a surgeon who isn’t socially involved in Pagford but is described as the most handsome man in town with the most expensive house. Rowling shows how Sikhs are often wrongly identified out of ignorance when a drugged out Mrs. Weedon calls Parminder a Paki b**** and when Shirley Mollison assumes Parminder is a Hindu who worships “something” in a mosque. Rowling also manages to tie in Punjabi family altercations about farm land properties in Punjab and how Punjabi cultural belief in the caste system is against Sikhi. Best of all Rowling repeats the story of the Sikh saint-soldier Bhai Kanaya and how he saw God in everyone. Parminder, a Sikh who believes in this ideal, admits to having trouble practicing it. Beliefs not being followed through in actions are a shortcoming not only in myself but the Sikh community in general. I am proud to say that “the light of God shines in every soul” is one of the messages with which Rowling ends the book. I personally feel that Rowling did an amazingly realistic job in conveying not only the Sikh family but all the families in Pagford. I do not believe that the Sikh community has any ground what so ever to complain about The Casual Vacancy and should instead be thankful that a well-known and capable author is spreading awareness about Sikhi. Any criticism made toward the book without a thorough read and grasp of the concepts is unacceptable. On the behalf of my community, I apologize to J. K. Rowling for the undeserving review she received from SGPC for her efforts. Although extremely different from the Harry Potter series, The Casual Vacancy is another literary masterpiece produced by her. Due to the depth of its content it deserves to be incorporated into required reading for high school students so that it can be commonly examined and pondered by avid readers around the world.

Bloody hell, you had me going for a second! :lol2: :lol2:

Looks like an indian bodge job from start to finish. Reminds of those indians that try and spin a yarn to their insurance companies!

His ego must be hurt because only the Indian media are hyping this. No one else gives a sh**.. Just like no one gave a sh** about their crappy Olympics team lolll.

curioustoknow ji, Did you get to see movie - the grey? Amazing movie with wolves in it. It's pretty symbolic . :biggrin2:

^^ At the danger of sounding misogynistic I'd say that culture, upbringing AND biology play a big part in this. I mentioned recently in another thread where the opposite of low esteem i.e. an elevated sense of worth can also lead to females falling for some predatory/uncaring romeo's charm. You often get really pretty, apparently intelligent girls, at least academically (maybe they've been pampered too much at home growing up?), ending up in seriously dysfunctional relationships because their 'self-efficacy' doesn't allow them to entertain the thought that what they are doing may be stoopid. Remember that nut job apnee that stabbed her sullah lover's pregnant wife/cousin in the tid like 2 dozen times for example? I heard of at least half a dozen apnee 'princesses' with good grades/uni dating men old enough to be their fathers who were just using them. Personally I believe generally females are infinitely more social creatures then men (especially manly men if you know what I mean). Maybe some evolutionary thing about safety in numbers? Notice how they go to the toilet in groups?? If you've seen it happen, you'd also notice how the first strategy of predator Paks in entrapping a girl is placing her in a larger social group which exerts pressure on them to behaving certain ways. - they sort of 'normalise' the low life things in this way, and even apparently intelligent girls fall for it?? I've found females often also seem to REALLY fear sticking out - being socially different, especially in the work environment. Sometimes I think men can handle being isolated to some degree much better than women (not that that is a pleasant experience mind you). I've often worked in places which were racist and you get the cold shoulder and vilification and whatnot. As an ethnic bloke in a white world (at least in my generation), you often had to deal with this. When it happens you can either go overdrive on sucking up to get accepted (sorry not me mate but plenty of apnay do) or say 'screw it' I'm going to try and do my own thing. The latter is hard because then you appear uppity and have the ubiquitous 'chip on the shoulder' and get targeted for the usual underhand nonsense whites reserve for 'intelligent, independent men of color'. lol I think not being mainstream, or like the majority is hard for many people - especially females who seem innately driven to look for the best 'mate' they can. Once men understand this they can play on it, like many rich playboys do! And, yeah, I'll put it out there - from experiences and what I've been told has been shown in social psychology experiments is that women seem a lot more susceptible to peer pressure than men. That's why advertisers have no problem flogging the new x or y to women. Point is that some of these drives/instincts seem to be deeply embedded within us. And any of us even remotely trying to practice our faith (on the deeper psychological/physiological discipline level) will have some understanding of how innate, deep driving forces compel our thinking and from that action. Thus it appears as if it takes a special person to 'use their noggin'. lol All that being said, plenty of blokes are complete conformist sheep - and I'm not talking about external factors here - like the roop but I mean in their minds. Plenty of blokes - our own being no exception, if anything being quite susceptible themselves, are terrified or incapable of thinking outside the box and acting on it. Sorry about that, thinking out loud! In the end, our own people would do well to get out of this conservative bull5hite position we're in that has us turning bright red and bashful when matters of sex are discussed. Dasmesh pita obviously didn't have an issue with it and thought it an important enough subject to dedicate more of the DG to it than anything else! When women and boys are coming of age maybe they need these conversations? I know I would have benefited from them when I was younger.

^^^ Nothing but the male version of what we generally read about in Charitrio Pakyaan.

Those who missed it as i was saying on other thread, from the movie- The Interpreter-

So an ex-army general who is hated worldwide and given Z level security in India goes to UK where the passions against him are hottest and chooses to go to the most unsafest part of town at the worst time of the day without any security and gets mugged by robbers which is translated into attempted assassination.

Lori, We respect all other holy men before and after Sri guru Nanak dev Ji. We accept their existence as positive to humankind. However, if you are asking that whether we believe in their teachings then personally I have to say that I do not. Why and why not? 1. No other religious head wrote text and many fail in trying to authenticate that religious Scriptures written by holy man itself. This is different with sikhi as our gurus took extra step of noting down every teaching they taught in most practical form. Whole Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee is by our gurus in 100%. 2. No religion or society ever given 100% equal rights to female gender. Even USA who is well known as defender of women right around the world, gave women voting right some 60 yrs ago. In sikhi this happened in 1400's. Many of our religious institutions ran solely by women folks since 1469. We have female granthi (priest), head of sgpc (sikh org like Vatican). I don't see female iman/mullah or priest. neither we will see female gender running Mecca or Vatican. 3. Earth is flat. Many religious scripts are not inline with most of today's scientist discoveries. Just few months ago, there was a news saying that there are Xxxx amount species living on our earth. Though they are not total accurate but very close to what our religious scripts pointed out number of species living on our earth. Only in this century human or west discovered truth about universe and Big Bang theory but all of this was already mentioned by our gurus ages ago. 4. Sikh gurus said that if you are Muslim then be a good Muslim, if Hindu then be a good Hindu. This shows the respect our gurus had for other religion. However we all know what other current religious practice thinks of other religion followers. Muslim says that if u r not Muslim then u r kafir or christian says that 'you are going to hell' if u do not hold Christ as your guru. Above are just few things that differentiate sikh gurus with other religious heads. So to your question of sukhs believing in teachings of other holy men. No, we don't but in reality we do respect all religions and this can be practically proven by our gurus handwritten scripture. Point me official document from Vatican or from Mecca which shows acceptance of other religion? Lori, I can suggest you to do independent research by start reading our gurus written scripture online and then only you can find answers for your questions. You must try to free your mind from thoughts before reading any scriptures.

As a Singhni with a "beard" this whole thing strikes a nerve. I don't think that people realise the following two things; firstly, that we face ridicule every time we leave the house, and it's terribly difficult to stay strong. So to have unsupportive comments from within the panth is like getting kicked in the face. Secondly, treatment is not a simple option. As I've said before, the cause is not treated by medicine but the symptoms (excessive hair, being one of them) are targetted and thus reduced (IF you have an hormonal imbalance). So some of us would worry that this isn't in line with Gurmat. It's a hard battle but it centres around not wanting to upset our Guru. I'm glad this whole situation was created. It's allowed me to see the views of the majority of Singhs. I can now pray wholeheartedly to Maharaj to find me somebody better than that. What does that mean?

Why should she sort it out? Because we as a society have set a norm???! This has been happening for generations! The era of armpit hair, chest/leg hair etx. It will continue to happen, tomorrow people will say hair is bad fullstop and we should all go bald!! THEN WHAT??? Sure it can be a medical condition. In Balpreet Kaurs case, it was, it was treated and all signs went away except for her hair. If it is not a medical condition anymore, why should she do beadbi of kes and take it off??? Because of what society says!? True killers of the panth is US, if we do not support our own brothers and sisters, then what shall we expect anything from others. (ie. reddit user) They are in chardi kala, let them live. We have no right to tell them and show them the way. They have found their way through SIkhi. But yes, if they think they are above others that do cut their kes..... that is wrong imo!

Share this news article on all social media otlets with friends and family. Also, be sure to read this article and share your thoughts. I've hi-lighted the important points if someone doesn't want to read it all! http://www.sikh24.com/2012/10/oped-attack-on-general-brar-what-were-the-real-motives/#.UGpSPphyWSo Europe, India, Op/Ed, WORLD | October 1, 2012, 10:21 pm Op/Ed – Attack on General Brar: What Were the Real Motives? By: Guest Columnist Bhai Bittu & Bhai Barapind A week ago, both the President and former President of the Sikh political party, Akali Dal (Panch Pardhani) were charged with waging war on the State, possession of explosives and sedition. Bhai Kulbir Singh Barapind and Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu were originally arrested under preventative measures, but have since seen their charges exacerbated and have been placed in judicial custody for a period of 14 days. The former is a serving member of the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) – notably the only candidate to successfully defeat a (CM of Punjab) Badal-supported nominee in recent SGPC elections in the Doaba region – whilst under the leadership of Daljit Singh Bittu, the Akali Dal (Panch Pardhani) has continued to gain support as a political party. It is no secret that the arrests have been to the benefit of the Badal-led Punjab Govt. and the wider Sikh hierarchy in Punjab, including the President of the SGPC, Avtar Singh Makkar who upheld that the Police were correct to make the arrests, despite human rights groups and media outlets confirming that no evidence of banned paraphernalia or explosives have been found. But more worryingly, each passing day with the surfacing of new and unrelated revelations, it has begun to appear that there may be a wider plot unfolding to silence any opposition to the status quo of recent years that has seen the Punjab, and Sikh institutions there, denigrated ever closer to oblivion. John Baird Almost a month ago now, Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird made sensational remarks suggesting that extremism and radicalisation was on the rise amidst Sikhs in Canada. His comments were widely rebuked throughout the country, but in the light of recent events, appear to merely be an opening shot across the bow of the Sikh World. Many in the Diaspora have been campaigning for greater transparency within Sikh institutions in the Punjab and have questioned the unhealthy influence of the Badal-led, supposed Sikh political party, the Shiromani Akali Dal, over the SGPC specifically. This has not been met with great welcome and clear attempts to marginalise the Sikh voice abroad have been filtering through Punjabi/Sikh media over the past year. Baird’s remarks were a pronounced escalation of this strategy. General Kuldeep Brar However, today’s news of the alleged attack on retired Lt. General Kuldip Brar who led the 1984 invasion of Sri Darbar Sahib Amritsar, is even more puzzling and timely. Indian media began to report late this afternoon, that Gen. Brar and his wife who are ordinarily under constant protection in Mumbai, were attacked last night in London, where the retired General suffered wounds to his neck. Depending on which Indian media outlet you believe, he was attacked either outside his hotel or on Oxford Street at around 10:30pm, although we ascertained from the Metropolitan Police that the attack took place on Old Quebec Street, a stone’s throw from Marble Arch tube station. The original source issuing the news is the High Commission of India which reports that Brar was in a critical condition in hospital overnight but has now been released and is recovering in private. The Metropolitan Police newswire reported Brar’s wounds as serious but not critical and that he had indeed been released from hospital after an overnight stay. His wife is quoted by Indian media as saying that they were set upon by four individuals whom she cannot identify. Despite what seems to be an apparent knife attack near the most popular street and area of the capital city, no press statement was issued last night or indeed this morning, but when issued were littered with references to the rise of Sikh extremism. Any native to central London will know that the slightest hint of an incident in Soho or Mayfair results in an instant cordoning-off of the area, which incidentally has one of the highest numbers of surveillance cameras in Western Europe, not to mention pedestrian foot-fall, so one would hope that the Metropolitan Police will have access to sufficient evidence to get to the heart of the matter. At this time, they are reporting no arrests although inquiries continue. It is remarkable to think that in this day and age, this news story is being published by both the Indian press, the bewildering Sikh TV stations and now the BBC with most of the news article leading on the fact that General Brar has long been a target for ‘Sikh extremists’. It is remarkable of course, unless seen in the wider context of what has been happening in a post-Rajoana World. Clearly the Badal-led Shiromani Akali Dal and their sibling forces hell-bent on usurping the Sikh people and vanquishing Guru Nanak’s egalitarian concept of Halemi Raj, have been so stunned by the global support to ‘Pledge Orange’ last Spring that they have moved rapidly to diminish the movement and what they see as the clearest threat to their autonomy over the Punjab and Sikh institutions. Opposition voices are no longer slowly being drowned out, rather they are erratically being routed through a multi-faceted campaign being played out primarily in the media. My gravest concern however remains for the everyday Sikh people who remain sightless to the situation. What will it take for our people to awake and realise what is being perpetrated against us? Must a well-known Sikh born and raised in the West be killed in dubious circumstances or face false charges before we care? Are the lives of the likes of Bhai Kulbir Singh Barapind and Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu not worthy of our time, for us to pause from our daily lives and think seriously and critically about what we as a people are doing? Rallies come and go, protests here then there, and TV shows galore, but all the while we fail to see through the looking glass, where white is black and black is white; all the while we fail to make a change for good, for now and ever more.

I am a non amritdhari, and have done my fair share of fashion and tried to fit in with modern world and believe me there is no modern world. You are young and are influenced by media. I hate Wats in fashion nowadays, and to be honest think guys with beards and turbans look better. They seem to have a sense of pride in their presentation, whereas guys that shave look bare and empty of morals and kind of lost. The modern look to me seems to be turbans and beards, its being proud of it makes one look cool.

This is far more convincing than the stories in the Indian media.

In any community there are always two sides and it is human nature to fight for our own set of ideals. However it is sad that in our kaum, few people are fighting against the foundations of sikhi laid by guru sahib. It is certainly not their fault but by the way they are brought up or of their sangat. Ignore them and continue to seek out good sangat. Do not feel discouraged by some replies here or there; life is full of obstacles and only support we get is from guru sahib not from forum members, relatives, family or friends.

Bani Bana Pankh Pashano, Singh Guru Ka Panshee Jano spiritual and physical discipline know these to be the two wings, the Guru's singh has both and flys like a bird if snatan Hindu shastarvidiya was so good, then why did Guru Gobind Singh ji have to be born in the age of Kalyug and create the Sant-Sipahi KHALSA, a diferent warrior that had spirituality and bravery in one. why did Guru Gobind Singh ji say in Bachittar Natak "PANTH CHALEY TAB JAGAT MEH JAB TUM HO SAHAI" that a new panth will flourish in the world when God will grant his support. so there was no talk of carry on the Hindu reet, it was "eh teesar majhab hu khalsa, upjio pardhana" Guru Gobind Singh ji was asked who is truly great in this world DHAN JIO TEH KO JAG MEH MUKH TEH HAR CHIT MEH YUDH VICHAAR only they are great in this age, who have the name of the lord on their lips and thought of war against injustice on their mind (Guru Gobind Singh Ji - Dasam Granth) how many shaheedis or morchas has the "Akali Nihang Baba Darbara Singh Suraj Bansia Ranjit Shiv Akhara" been invovled in ? In which historic books has "Akali Nihang Baba Darbara Singh Suraj Bansia Ranjit Shiv Akhara" been mentioned in ? actually before Niddar singh came back from india who has ever heard of it, ask people from india they have never heard of them. where does Guru Gobind Singh ji mention Shastarvidiya in bani - surely if it was so important he would have not forgot to mention it. all balanced questions that need to be discussed and talked about. Gurbani is the highest and it is what they are most afraid of. There is a saying in birmingham now which goes like this "Niddars boys are warriors afraid of nothing apart from Paath and kirtan" its a sad state of affairs which we do not want passed to the next generation. we should grorify those who have actually done something for sikhi, not just done a few scripted seminars, and proclaimed to be the last sikh soldier on earth.

ya had me Dilchasp Singh especially with the police officers name from mumbai and the fines......=_=

Is this for real?? LOL

Good website. Hope you expand on this.

good efforts to bring different website to counter false propaganda being promoted by niddar camp. Hope that your website comes on google search engine quickly

mega lol!!

Nail on the head or lohe di thili, its the wrong ones that are giving the hard working, sincere and genuinely unfortunate ones a bad name. The ones that would not leave their spouses and be grateful for them making them citizens of that country, and be there for each other. They are the ones that tell their whole situation and leave the rest to god to decide their destiny rather than lie and make out they are somebody else.

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gurfateh g are you a girl or boy? I am a girl n heres what I do , first layer kachera and kirpan second layer a leotard over my kachera which I bought at a dance store it is just like a swimsuit will fill sleeves though , over my kechera i wear swim skorts (skirt with shorts attached). If one does not want to show their legs ( i dont care about the leg hair I show it) than they can wear waterproof leggings (most leggings ar) or a skuba suit. As for the kirpan I just wear it under my leotard the same way as normal and i attach my kanga to it u can prolly attach ur kanga and tie the attached place with a patka so it doesnt move, Hope this helps

respecting and loving someone/something doesn't mean you're worshipping it. we respect the gurus because of their teachings and way of life. the bowing of the head in the east (india) is a sign of respect, people used to bow to kings, so sikhs bow to the guru. also it is like saying my head is yours to the guru. The most important aspect of being a Sikh, is to understand that, there is one endless God."He is indescribable, inestimable, indubitable, infallible, intangible, imperishable, immutable, immortal, immaculate, immanent, unconquerable, unique, formless, fearless, deathless, timeless, ageless, compassionate, omnipresent and creator of all. "There is only the One Supreme Lord; there is no other at all. Spirit, soul and body, all belong to Him; whatever pleases His Will, comes to pass" (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 45). waheguru is in every single being, every atom, god is everywhere. even in us god resides, but it takes meditation and the guru to help us find the light. guru means from darkness to light. the gurus were chosen by the will of god to be the people who will take us from the dark. the gurus had realised god, and they were one. the light of god just shined brighter in guru nanak. as humans we don't know why god chose to do any of this. "The created cannot have a measure of the Creator; what He wills, O Nanak, happens" (GG, 285). i don't know much. if i'm wrong some one tell me!

Black magic is real. Had it done with my family, and u can control it with Sahib Siri Guru Gobind Singh ji's Hukam, Stay Shastertari and do the minimum of 5 banis everyday

Why is other peoples misfortune funny veerji. As Sikh we should remain humble, no matter if somebody says something that is completely false, if they believe in it, then we should respect it. no matter how stupid we may think it is. Its same in society today and at work, if somebody puts across a poor idea which they think is good, we do not laugh about it.

Mehtab Singh, why are you being a little harsh with her? She's just asking questions and some on this board are jumping down her throat. We should be taking these questions in the same vein that our Guru's did. Have any other Muslims in ever been given this advice by our Guru's, that you are giving mr only5?

Seriously, how hard would it be to get 4 Indian 'patriots' to dress up and meet Brar at some prearranged location and then give him a superficial wound and run off. The incident could be over in a minute. In operation terms this would be about as difficult as a walk in the park. We have to be careful though and explore all possibilities. It could have been the above scenario(1), it could've have been a genuine robbery attempt unrelated to Sikhs (2), or it could have been a seriously incompetent attack by apnay (3). But as people have noted, it really does seem implausible that 4 men didn't do more damage. I mean they could have stomped his head or kicked it in. No bones seem to have been broken either? That being said, this could be explained by them being lacking confidence or being jittery during the attack (if it was genuine). To compare a possibly similar incident, do people remember this recent(ish) incident in London where a Pakistani politician was killed in an ambush? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11338054 Normally I discourage conspiracy theory type thinking but this 'incident' really does have 'dodgy' written all over it. Right on cue, we see Indian media valorizing Brar. It brings out the nationalist in Indians. Sikhs get the usual 'extremist' tarnishing. We'll see what the Brit investigation brings ups. But we should be prepared for some manifestation of the 'dark immigrant horde menace' in some of the more populist tabloids over here (those mothers usually never miss a chance like this).

Curioustoknow...there is a youtube channel called 'Basics of Sikhi'. In his short video's he's answered alot of your questions...if you are a genuine seeker of truth then i would suggest you take some time to go through his video's.

In 1706 Shaheed Bhai Mani singh Ji completed Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji at Panjva Takhat Sri Damdama Sahib Guru Ki Kanshi Sabo Ki Talwandi which took nine whole months, nine days and nine gharia where Sri Guru Gobind Sahib Ji would recite Gurbani in the morning and do the arth of that Gurbani in the evening. 48 sikh scholar's were present in which Shaheed Bhai Mani Singh Ji was writing Gurbani and Amar Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji was assiting, after the completion of this a 25 singh Sri Akhand Path Sahib was performed as ordered by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji following the full maryada in which 5 amritdhari, nitnemi, tyar par tyar singh's do Akhand Path seva, 5 on Sri Jap Ji Sahib, 5 on dhoof, 5 do langar seva and 5 on pehredar seva and chaur sahib is also done continuously throughout the whole Sri Akhand Path Sahib. This was performed from the saroop that Bhai Mani Singh Ji wrote by hand over the nine month period which is referred to as the Damdami bir. With Kalgidhar Dasam Pita's blessing's this Akhand Path Sahib will be performed in the same way for the first time in the UK as all the path will be recited out loud in the speaker as well as live coverage on Sikh channel and the Internet.

from reading this, it seems u have a lot going on in your mind. if i may, id like to address your relationship status as you've mentioned it. in islam, i believe those that are religious and go out and date, do so with the view that the other person will convert to islam if its a problem. in retrospect (looking back), couples that have inter-religious marriages, will have problems and squabbles later in their married life because of this hinderance. your personal view against discrimination, and the belief in one god, does fly in the face of islam. after all, they would not be looking to convert people to islam if they truely believed god doesnt make a mistake in choosing a specific religion for someone, or not (athiest). i find islam is tolerant. for me, tolerance is demeaning to the other. accepting the other without some quotient ( basically loving everyone regardless), is the only way to be. and i think this is a good place to talk about sikhism (sikhi) . sikhs have 10 masters of our religion / prophets / gurus. and the 10th master exalted (raised) sikh scripture to the status of a living eternal guru. and this we call "the Guru Granth Sahib Ji". 3 basic sikh principles are to 1.earn an honest living 2.distribute before taking (think of food. give food to others then eat after - this idea ges beyond food obviously though) 3. meditate on the name of the lord. in sikh dharam (religion), we have this meditation in the form of love. called "prem bhagti". litterally meaning "the love meditation". we have a meditative word through which everyone (if they meditate) can access this love meditation. meditation ( just 5 - 15 mins a day) opens everything in you mind and heart up. but u need dicipline of the body, and mind. i.e. concentrate effortlessly without trying to concentrate. lastly to bring worth to yourself, serve the creation of god. in all forms. if you believe in blissfull happiness, and anti-blissfull happiness, then these 2 currencies (money) which are to serve SELFLESSLY WTHOUT THE HOPE OF REWARD, and meditate, these 2 currencies are the path to happiness.. stability.. fullness on the heart, mid and soul....all things good. etc. thisis sikhism in a nutshell.. now for your questions. 1. on mixed marriages, historically, fundemental ways of life were believed in by both the husband and wife alike. background does not come into it. linearity of thought is there.. (for you, i think there was no linearity of thought so it broke down with you. - sex and attachment could help you to go down the wrong path.. beware! - im not saying sex is wrong.. just special and sacred) 2. in every language there are words for "believer" and "athiest". in sikhism, we believe in the brotherhood of humanity. so even if your an athiest, we pray for you, as we pray for ourselves. 3. big topic. every baptized sikh must wear the 5 K's and follow the dicipline given to them to help them in life. e.g. a rule that we all know is dont put hand infire else it hurts. so you have a dicipline that you do not jump in the fire. this is like the dicipline rules given to sikh if they choose to be baptized. all sikhs (should) aim to be baptized. it was a duty given to all sikhs by our 1st master (guru nanak dev JI), through to our 10th master (guru gobind singh ji) of our religion. 3. 5 k's can never be changed. bowing to our eternal guru (found in all gurdwaras - sikh place of worship) can never be changed, so there isnt any views. its just how it is. 5 ks are a must for baptised sikhs. (if u are practising to be baptised, then u can wear then too.) u can look at the 5 Ks be split up like this. first, u must keep dicipline. unshorn hair, and chastity! second, steel bracelet and comb, lastly, the kirpaan (like a dagger, but in no way, is a dagger.) the kirpaan is to keep honour in the world. "kirpa" - through the grace of god, "aan" - the honour in the world is kept. however, we cannot use it unless there is a war. there is no war now. we do not create our own wars / fights / gang fights.. when a kirpan is worn, it reminds us to be ever ready. (ready for anything). ask if you dont understand anything regarding the 5 ks. 4. as sikhs, we say, 1.earn onist living. earn the entire world if u can. but be ready to let it all go and giv it to your guru and understand that its not yours to have, though you have been given it.. just like our body is not ours, it will return to dust eventually. and the soul moves on.. just want to add, >>true love<< is the love you feel for your parents, siblings, and children, all put into one. if u can say that the love you feel towards your mommy, and a child is he same, and this love is the same that you feel for your partner, then that is true love. only difference is that your life partner is with you to share a new family. >>fake love<< is attachment, and wanting this n that just because your body aches for the opposite sex.. or jus because your mind wants more.. in sikhism, we aim to control everything about us, so we can become stable, and achieve a higher state of being... i hope it was ok to read. any questions, u can just message me, or reply here. good luck!

Besharam. They don't care if people are dying of hunger, need medicine and need Sikhi parchar in Punjab, but if a book comes out that they don't understand the depth behind they try to get some PR by saying "haaaaaan jiiii assiiii taaaaan eeeehss boooook nu condemnn kardee aahh!!!!" Act karde jivein book condemn karke ik vadi jang lardke agaye... -.- My thoughts exactly when seeing the article.

Anyone read the book yet? What's the context of the use of the Sikh family? It seems Rowling has tried to do a good thing but some of our people simply haven't a clue. They probably want the Sikh family in the book to ride around on horses, shouting jakaare and save the day, and then have everyone else in the book convert to Sikhi and live happily ever after. Decent literature is complex, it isn't easy or comfortable at the best of times. Characters need to challenge the reader; sometimes they have to be written in a way which best conveys the intention of the author to make an argument which supports their themes, plot, etc. It doesn't mean every single person in the real world who shares the religion or background of such a character is the same. Rowling talks about the positives of the Sikh faith in terms of gender equality, etc.; God forbid she encounters certain sections of this website. A few hours reading about how some modern-day practitioners of Sikhi differ from the untouchable, pure theory it is SUPPOSED to represent I reckon she'd regret including anything Sikh-related in her book. Again, we seem to be going the way of the stereotypical, irate mullah whenever something like this crops up. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks even the Akal Takhat jathedars are leant upon to make statements on such trivial issues to give Sikhs a bad name in the western world. Yet whenever occurs something which gravely affects the core of Sikhi and Sikh sentiments then it takes them days to utter a word.

I bet none have read book. The author has said she is inspired and respects Sikhism, so I don't think she would have put a negative image for Sikhs. Regarding the hair issue most of the world are sticking up for the Bibi with facial hair, the announcements seem strange. http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/68306-fearless-singhni-kaur-of-guru-gobind-singh/ Its better if the Jathedhars concentrated on confronting the living Gurus and cults that mock the Sikhs on a daily basis.

Boy, are we desperate for some positive media coverage or what!