Breaking News: Sikhs Clash With Dera Sucha Sauda Followers In Punjab, 12 Injured

[jassa]

his dera is converted in military base ... he has got security of 50 trained army personals with him .... even his followerd are not allowed to meet him .... i dont think killing him now is possible

[dasmesh_regiment]

its possible

bhai ranjit singh sorted the nirankari baba

someone will sort this nakli dog

[jassa]

if some can provide dates i dont know much but it must be a difference of an year or two .... and he killed that malech with a plan not just attacking dera .... he was getting his car repaired or some thing like that .... it was a plan .... we need to remove his army security cover .... for that we should make him feel safe .... and thats not possible till there are lalkaras in newspapers .... karna kuch hai nahi marr deyange tang deyange .... yaa marlo yaa rolla pa lao ....

[dasmesh_regiment]

yes i know how bhai ranjit singh sorted the nirankari

the only short term solution is a big bomb - but others will perish, perhaps some "innocents"

[dasmesh_regiment]

where are panjwar and w.babbar? not even a statement?

where are bki?

[illi]

I bet Baba Mann is pretty happy since all the attention is not on him!

[mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan]

sant sipahi jarnail singh ji khalsa was said to keep women in Akal Takhat Sahib and accusations of rape and murder was reported. Indira ordered the army to rid Sri Akal Takhat of the miscreants who had defiled darbar sahib.

Now we have a man who is accused of rape and murder with actual witnesses unlike in 1984 when there were no witnesses against Bhindrawaale sant sipahi. Also, this Ram Rahim gets government security cover.

All the geniuses out there, please explain this hypocrisy?

Baba jarnail singh ji spoke about this bharti hypocrisy in his speeches.

The problem isn't garam daliyeh jathas etc etc, these garam khyaalee jathas suuch as Dam Dami Takhsaal and SSF etc have been quiet as mice for a very long time.

The problem isn't them, the problem is the constant hypocrsiy of the Indian state in protecting rapists and murderers. Eventually this nonsense leads to what we are seeing now. People start to use their common sense and say, hey, wait a minute, thsi guy who raped a bunch of girls gets police security and on top of that he has the nerve to emulate the amrit sanchaar ceremony?

we all know sikhs are a very emotional people. and the state knows that as well. They just play with our emotions from time to time. They know what makes us tick. Just watch the tick, tick, tick.......

[Harpreet_Singh]

Why the hell are u guys talking about bombs and blowing stuff up on a msg board that could be read by anybody. Beyond stupidity.

[orono]

This is just cut & paste from my side. I do not fully subscribe to the views expressed in the article

Return of the Khalistanis

By Asit Jolly

A group of ageing Khalistanis, on Sunday, gave their blessings to the Bhujang Khalsa — a marjeevada or suicide squad that has been specially raised to implement the Akal Takht’s writ on shutting down more than a hundred Punjab-based centres belonging to the Dera Sacha Sauda.

Amidst suddenly louder than ever before "Khalistan Zindabad!" slogans, the new-generation Sikh nationalists chalked grim strategies to carry out the task assigned to them — preceded by their kirpans (swords) the marjeevade will first use "gentle persuasion" to get Dera followers to distance themselves from their spiritual master, Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh. And where this fails, they will employ "harsher steps." The marjeevade have vowed to "create terror in the minds of Dera followers." Egged on by their radical elders, the boys have already earmarked a chowk in Punjab’s Muktsar Town as the "cremation site" for the Sacha Sauda chief.

Condemned for more than a decade to a peripheral existence until last week, the separatist Khalistani fringe of Punjab is determinedly pushing its way back to the centre stage. The sectarian confrontation between Sikhs and the ten million strong Sacha Sauda sect has been marked by a disturbing revival of Khalistani rhetoric. Marginalised radicals, who were only occasionally heard and seen at Operation Bluestar anniversaries and the bhog ceremonies of their old comrades, are now orchestrating the building clamour for the Dera chief’s head.

All the way from Amritsar, Jalandhar, Ludhiana to Patiala, Mansa, Muktsar, Bhatinda and even in Jammu, Khalistanis can be seen leading the violent street protests against the purportedly sacrilegious acts of Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh. And though the men and women they lead are no Khalistanis, they all willingly join in the separatist chorus amidst rising tempers and cleverly provocative cues from the radicals. Men like Harnam Singh Dhumma, Daljit Bittoo, Kanwar Pal Singh, Gurnam Bandala, Wassan Singh Zaffarwal, Atinder Pal Singh and Jasbir Singh Rode are suddenly visible, besides over-ground radicals of Simranjit Singh Mann and Bhai Ram Singh’s ilk. In Patiala, crowds of ordinary Sikhs shouted out their approval when the former MP and out-of-work Khalistani, Atinder Pal Singh promised that Sikhs would exact their revenge for the Dera chief’s insult to Guru Gobind Singh "on the edge of the khanda (a kind of large sword)."

Also hob-nobbing with the extremist constituency, the jathedar or head priest of the Sikh Takht Damdama Sahib, Balwant Singh Nandgarh publicly offered to weigh in pure gold, "the brave Sikh who brings back Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh’s head."

Both Nandgarh and Atinder Pal Singh’s proclamations dangerously echo the turbulent summer of 1978, when following the Akali-Nirankari clash at Chowk Mehta on Baisakhi day, Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale offered a similar bounty for the then Nirankari chief’s head. Two Sikhs, including Ranjit Singh who was later crowned Jathedar of the Akal Takht, actually carried out Bhindranwale’s bidding and assassinated Baba Gurbachan Singh in Delhi. What ensued for the next ten years is history.

And just as Bhindranwale had then proclaimed a young man gunned down by police near Amritsar as the first martyr of the holy war against the Indian state, Jathedar Nandgarh too named Kamaljit Singh — the man who died trying to storm the Sacha Sauda centre at Sunam last Thursday — as the "pratham shaheed" of the new "dharam yudh."

Kamaljit Singh’s funeral on Friday was attended by a galaxy of former Khalistanis, including the present Damdami Taksal chief, Harnam Singh Dhumma, Sikh Students Federation activist Daljit Singh Bittoo, Kanwar Pal Singh of the Dal Khalsa and many familiar faces from the puritanical Akhand Kirtani Jatha. Blinded by an obvious desire to teach the Dera a lesson for siding with Congress in the Assembly elections, the moderate Sikh leadership led by chief minister Parkash Singh Badal appears to have lost sight of the dangers a radical revival could pose not just to Punjab and the rest of the country, but even its own political future.

The new Khalistani nationalists are far smarter and significantly a lot more patient than they were known to be in the past. The current conflagration, for them, is only a means to the larger end. With the honour of no less a personage than Guru Gobind Singh at stake, the Badal government runs the very real risk of angering its traditional support base if it is perceived as acting even remotely contrary to the writ of the Akal Takht.

Aware of the huge opportunity such a situation offers them, the radicals — who are freely enlarging and interpreting the clergy’s successive verdicts — are looking to regain political space in pursuance of their eventual aim.

"You wait and watch. If things continue at the present pace, we will definitely grab a substantial majority in the SGPC elections two years from now," says Kanwar Pal Singh, a senior Amritsar-based functionary of the Dal Khalsa.

"This is a confrontation that will never end. Even if they do close down Sacha Sauda’s deras in Punjab, there will be trouble every time the sect attempts to hold a function here. And every time the true face of the Akali Dal will become exposed before the Sikhs," he said.

The imminent resurrection of the Khalistani fringe is understandably worrying many who witnessed the violent Eighties and Nineties in Punjab.

"This is not at all a good trend," says former Punjab police chief K.P.S. Gill. But in his opinion it is all a predictable consequence of the fact that successive governments at Chandigarh and Delhi "have been overly lenient in dealing with remnant Khalistani elements."

The retired super cop insists that the only way out is for the Centre and the state to take tough action. "Sikhs have never been known to display a mob mentality and if tackled in time, it will not at all be difficult to control the problem," he said, suggesting in remedy, "a few no-nonsense lathicharges to dispel any doubts that the government knows its business."

Failing the firm hand that Mr Gill is advocating Punjab could very easily slide right back into the nightmarish Eighties.

Besides the scores of Sacha Sauda followers that are already beginning to flee Punjab in fear of becoming targets, the sight and sound of naked swords and threatening slogans is also giving root to apprehensions amidst Hindus and other communities.

http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftn...halistanis.aspx

[Sikhishop.com]

Dear Sangat Ji, this was on BBC website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6678795.stm

Strike by Sikhs hits Indian state

Many of the Sikh protesters have been armed

Cities and towns across the northern Indian state of Punjab are shut in response to a general strike called by the Sikh community.

Security forces have been deployed and businesses and schools are closed for the day amid fears of violence.

Sikhs are demanding an apology from the leader of a religious sect who appeared in an advert dressed like one of the Sikh religion's most important figures.

Sikh community leaders say it is an insult to their religion.

Last week, thousands took to the streets. One man was shot dead in clashes that followed.

Attempts to broker a settlement between the Sikhs and the sect have failed.

Deserted

Thousands of extra police and soldiers have been deployed across Punjab and the state's political leadership has said peace will be maintained at all costs.

DSS supporters have come from various religions

Streets in many Punjabi cities and towns are deserted.

Thousands of machine-gun wielding soldiers are on alert and the anti-riot Rapid Action Force personnel have marched through some of the sensitive areas.

In the state of Jammu, Sikhs have held protest demonstrations, burning effigies of the leader of the Dera Sacha Sauda (DSS) religious sect.

The DSS's leader has refused to apologise for appearing in an advertisement dressed like one of the figures most revered by Sikhs, Guru Gobind Singh.

The Sikhs called it blasphemy.

Fearing possible violence by outraged Sikhs, security forces have erected barricades around the headquarters of the Dera Sacha Sauda (DSS) religious sect in Sirsa town [in the neighbouring state of Haryana].

An estimated 20,000 DSS followers live on or near the campus.

The sect also has many smaller campuses across Punjab.

Appeal for calm

Sikh leaders have demanded that all campuses where sect members live be closed within a week.

The sect claims it has 20 million members worldwide and says it is not a religion but a humanitarian organisation caring for its devotees.

Analysts say the DSS action has to be seen in the context of state elections held in Punjab in February when the sect leader issued a public appeal for people to vote for the Congress party.

Religious sects have traditionally been subtle about their support for political parties - they have usually issued internal appeals asking their followers to vote for the political party of their choice.

The trouble has been brewing for days

Most Sikhs in Punjab support the state's governing party, Akali Dal.

Some analysts say Sikh leaders, angry at the direct intervention by the DSS in the elections, seized the opportunity to whip up popular sentiments of their community against the sect.

They say the latest conflict threatens to lead to a polarisation of the communities and the dispute could trigger widespread unrest.

Although peace has prevailed in the state for the last decade or so, in the 1980s and the 1990s, Punjab was the site of a violent insurgency by Sikhs who desired an independent homeland.

In 1984 Indian security forces killed many Sikh militants after they seized the Golden Temple in Amritsar, the Sikh religion's most important site.

In revenge, Sikh soldiers shot dead Indira Gandhi, the then-prime minister. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, himself a Sikh, has called for calm.