Breaking News: Sikhs Clash With Dera Sucha Sauda Followers In Punjab, 12 Injured

[2desi]

So far I didnt have the time to read this forum but would like to express some of my views on the dera issue here.

It is true about 40 companies of Indian paramilitary forces have been deployed in Punjab who are conducting flag marches here.

Today the anti sauda baba protests continued in Ludhiana and Sangrur amongst other places.

The Singh who was killed yesterday by firing from inside the sauda dera in Sunam was one of the Panj Piaras of Sangrur .He is being considered a shaheed here .Many Sikh leaders including Bhai Bittu were present at the antim sanskar of the Singh .

Meanwhile the fall out of yesterday's Akal Takht Hukamnama has started in Punjab .Some incidences of Dera followers fleeing from Malwa region to Ludhiana city have been reported .Some houses of Dera followers have been torched in Sangrur these include the office of Dera follower Harnek Singh a correspondent of Punjabi TV channel NRI .There are even reports of Sikh followers of the Dera in Chamkaur Sahib returning back to the Sikh mainstream .

I have been following the developments regarding sauda baba in the indian media particularly hindi tv channels which has been somewhat biased towards sauda baba showing ram raheem as a pious and peace loving person although at the same time some channels have also been exposing the true character of the dera and it's head including the CBI cases pending against the dera head .Not only this the anti sikh dera which has been so far projecting itself as a peaceful organisation has been exposed.It were these peaceful people who indulged in large scale arson and burning of govt property and attacking punjab police at Bathinda before Singh's took to the streets.It is the spokesman of this so called peaceful sect Dr Aditya Arora who has directly demanded imposition of President's rule in Punjab and arrest of SGPC president Avtar Singh Makkar,Jagir Kaur,Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu and Baljeet Singh Daadu on various indian tv channels.

Another thing Ive noticed from various channels coverage that the sauda dera has majority woman supporters.It looks as if the sauda baba is trying to hide behind the veil of women .Simliar posters with slogans like "Badal Sarkar Murdabad".."Badal Sarkar rahaygi ya hum rahaingay ".."Badal Sarkar churiyaan pehn lo " etc.Not only this dera women were shown doing siyapa and wailing on various indian channels .

Channels have been projecting the Sikh anger as anger of Akali Dal as if Sikh sentiments mean nothing .Each channel is trying to project the dera issue as a political problem and not a religious problem.

Could this be a scheme to arrest Sikhs like Bhai Bittu and others ?Sardar Mann,Bhai Atinderpal Singh are already in jail .Not only dera spokeman Aditya but also congress and BJP are demanding arrest of Bhai Bittu and other Sikhs .

On the other hand India TV channel has revealed in it's news bulletin at 9.41pm India Time that Sikh militants are planning to target sauda baba with a suicide bomb according to a top secret letter shown on the channel.

Harjot Singh Brar

I HATE THE INDIAN MEDIA!!!!!

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I m suprised at new allegation that this baba as same nirankari cult leader try to create sat sitaare in his intiation just mock the khalsa traditions?

how true is this allegation? can anyone provided proof/sources ?

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Thanks Das Nimana Ji for a composite report of the situation

[Techno_singh]

have indian media been bribe by dera- 80 lakhs each to aj tak and ibn ?

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Initially the Media projected the DSS in bad light as the DSS followers went on rampage on Monday. From next day, the Sikhs have been going around with their naked Kirpans. Also the DSS has been tactfully saying everytime they are interviewed that we want peace ,they r talking peace on media all the time. This is a clever move by DSS to show that they r at receving end and that they r peace loving people.

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AAJ Tak is known to be pro BJp channel. IBN's parent company is although known to be anti-BJP

[lsingh]

BBC coverage

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6668299.stm

[jassa]

I m suprised at new allegation that this baba as same nirankari cult leader try to create sat sitaare in his intiation just mock the khalsa traditions?

how true is this allegation? can anyone provided proof/sources ?

nope he has not made any sat sitare .... actualy the whole procedure he himself said it on tv is that he use 5 chules ( dont know whats that called in english ) of his amrit to his followers and they are like 5 kasams or promises they make .... 1 on name of god 2 on name of very first avtar of god 3 on name of satguru who started dera 4 th on the name of dera and 5 th on the name of insaniyat .... no tradition of punj or sat peyare is followed

[proactive]

The Indian media is showing it's bias but also the Manmatis are showng how medai savvy they are. Their spokesman's smug face can be seen on most channels and they media are concentrating on the syapa of the manmatis at Sirsa rather than how much hurt this cult's leader has caused to Sikhs.

The fact that many turbanned people can be seen among the manmatis show that they are putting some of their followers who look like Sikhs to the forefront to keep the pretence that this is a Akali-Dera feud and not a Sikh-Dera feud. The fact that there are people of Sikh appearace amongst the manmatis show that the SGPC has failed in their parchar duties. Only a concerted effort by the SGPC and Sikhs in Malwa will bring back some of the Sikhs who follow the dera. There was some good news from Kiri Afghana village near Chamkaur Sahib that Dera followers have entered the Sikh mainstream. This process will need to repeated all over Malwa.

The Indian media is also lionising the manmatis with fake reports such as 40,000 dera supporters at Dabwali ready to enter Punjab. This was the report once the news came through that 50,000 Sikhs were blockading the Salabatpura dera. With each passing day the media is putting out misinformation like the dera has 30 million followers. The dera supporters are basically cowards who are now pushing foward their womenfolk after they have realised that Sikhs are now intent on teaching them a lesson. Their real fear was that in the early days the Sikhs from Punjab would march on Sirsa dera and burn it to the ground. The people on the gorund are saying that LESS dera followers congregated at Sirsa on the call given by their leader than congregate on a NORMAL sunday!

[Harmindersingh]

http://www.ihues.org/newspb/news.php

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story...EWEN20070012512