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@ WLS - Iranian cinema is absolutely class. Have you seen Persepolis? Although it's French-made the source material is a graphic novel written by an Iranian about the revolution.

No, Persepolis is not what I have in mind at all when I refer to the beauty of Iranian cinema. To me, the beauty is the simplicity. Once you take away the computer graphics, right to use nudity, right to use bad language, right to use sex, right to use violence from a film-maker you force that film -maker to go out of his way to ensure there is an unbelievably beautiful story, unbelievably beautiful natural acting etc.

Actually, the Turkish movie Once Upon a Time in Anatolia is a perfect example of this. 90% of the movie is just a bunch of guys having mundane everyday conversations whilst travelling in a car. Thats what makes it so beautiful. Western film-makers, out of habit and a desire to cater to what they percieve as western needs, would be compelled to throw in some CGI, swearing and a sex scene. Before you know it the beauty's dead. Of course, thats not half as bad as Indian film-makers who would be compelled to, every now and then, get the men out of the car to do a disco dance around a tree. So no my friend, 'Persepolis' is the antithesis of every thing I love about Iranian cinema.

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No, Persepolis is not what I have in mind at all when I refer to the beauty of Iranian cinema. To me, the beauty is the simplicity. Once you take away the computer graphics, right to use nudity, right to use bad language, right to use sex, right to use violence from a film-maker you force that film -maker to go out of his way to ensure there is an unbelievably beautiful story, unbelievably beautiful natural acting etc.

'Persepolis' is the antithesis of every thing I love about Iranian cinema.

You completely missed my point about the movie and the graphic novel on which it was based. Do you actually know what I'm talking about or are you off on another one of your WLS rants?

Persepolis is one of the most beautiful animated films ever created. Its simplicity in terms of its black and white aesthetic contributes to making it wonderful and original, in addition to the stirring source material on which the movie is based. There's nary a swear word, a nude body or anything of the like in sight.

Are you assuming anything based on a graphic novel is trashy, violent, etc? That's like assuming that every novel ever written is nothing but a rip off of Shakespeare.

The next thing you'll be telling me is that the movie Waltz with Bashir is a total waste of your time, because you have no interest in watching a film about the journalist who interviewed Princess Diana and Michael Jackson, and his epic struggle to become a ballroom dancer!

Expand your horizons, WLS. Don't jump to conclusions without doing some research thus making yourself look uninformed. Put some hustle behind that muscle.

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You completely missed my point about the movie and the graphic novel on which it was based. Do you actually know what I'm talking about or are you off on another one of your WLS rants?

Persepolis is one of the most beautiful animated films ever created. Its simplicity is what makes it wonderful. There's nary a swear word, a nude body or anything of the like in sight.

Its you who have completely missed my point. However, unlike you, I am kind and civilised enough not to refer to your missed point as a "rant". When I tell you how the thing I love about Iranian cinema is its NON-USE OF THINGS SUCH AS COMPUTER GRAPHICS.......i.e its natural simplicity....its art imitating real-life, what in god's name possessed you into thinking an animated film would fall into that category ? :blink2:

Don't talk to me no more about Iranian cinema Kaljugi. If I wanna talk to you about movies I'll talk to you on the Nickleodeon forum for cartoons.

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Nevermind WLS. I won't talk to you 'no more'.

The fact that you think some animated films cannot be categorised as art goes some way to explain your own slanted take on the medium.

I personally think you're trying too hard to come off as 'avant-garde' but you're completely missing the beauty to be found across the whole spectrum of film. The fact that it doesn't conform to your tastes is not a slight on its achievement and quality, but more a reflection on your prejudices and what you deem to be "worthy".

But like I said, nevermind. If you honestly didn't know what I was referring to earlier in terms of Persepolis, you could've just said "Never heard of it to be honest." Instead you go on to belittle something that is widely accepted as something so far removed from what you're assuming it is, you just make yourself appear uninformed. If you'd seen the film and then decided to trash it then fair enough but you aren't even aware of what I was referring to. You know, it is okay not to know something on the odd occasion.

Then you insult me by suggesting any discussion of animation is the equivalent of talking to a child about Nicklelodeon cartoons.

I'm really rather surprised that someone who posseses the vast amount of knowledge you clearly do, can be so lacking in nuance and sensitivity when it comes to appraising something based on its merits, and not some hugely misplaced, pre-conceived notions that are so wide of the mark they are entirely laughable.

Here's one rant that is truly over. Seriously disappointed, dude.

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thought persepolis was a great film really eye opening.

The raid is a great film too just start to finish action packed!

Taken 2 = horrendous built on the original taken they changed maybe a couple of pages of dialogue not worth the admission price.

Boy with the striped pyjamas decent film amazing book!

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I really do hope 1994 was not the year you were born... :giggle:

AHA im afraid it is, i am the biggest kid you will ever meet

sholay was the greatest gabbar singh

ahah in sholay right, the guy is supposed to be dead on the floor, and the horse runs past him, he gets scared and moves!!! watch it again!!!

Oh yes my bedtime film to putme to sleep .............. SCARFACE!!

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AHA im afraid it is, i am the biggest kid you will ever meet

Ha, ha, no worries. It's great to be in touch with your inner child... as long as you're not possessed by the bhoot of a young child... that's a whole different kettle of fish! :biggrin2:

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this topic has gone on too long, over 15 pages on a topic that has nothing to do with sikhi, there are many topics i've noticed on here where people are asking geniune good questions about how to improve their jeevan etc and there are hunderds of views and maybe 1 reply and in some cases none and yet a thread like this gets so much attention, the bottom line is we are wasting our time by watching tv, we will happily sit and watch a three hour film like scarface no problem, but when the times come to do some path or simeran we arent prepared to do it for three hours, tv is a massive waste of time, count up the hours you watch tv in a day and see how much it comes to, the average person watches 4 5 hours a day if not more, and the time wasted watching tv can be spent doing simeran or listening to katha. i dont mean to have a go beceasue I am not one to talk myself I used to watch hours of tv before but now I dont watch any but still on some occasions watch the footie when liverpool are playing. the below video is very good

Bhul chuk maaf karni

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Good point, NewSingh. Personally speaking I gave up TV a long time ago. Whilst I'm not a film junkie (as much as I use to anyway), I still manage to squeeze in about 5 or 6 movies a year at the tail end of the year on DVD. For me the concepts behind the movies (a decent movie of course) are more interesting than the films themselves, lol.

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Ha, ha, no worries. It's great to be in touch with your inner child... as long as you're not possessed by the bhoot of a young child... that's a whole different kettle of fish! :biggrin2:

LOL! sometimes i can be possessed singh, give me a cup of tea, milk chocolate digestives, and ill sit down with a bunch of kid movies, action movies, violent movies that i copied from the original DVDs that come in the post, so yes technically im a criminal and ill be as happy as can be :D

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LOL! sometimes i can be possessed singh, give me a cup of tea, milk chocolate digestives, and ill sit down with a bunch of kid movies, action movies, violent movies that i copied from the original DVDs that come in the post, so yes technically im a criminal and ill be as happy as can be :D

Ha, that's my tea-time treat as well. Cup of tea, chocolate digestives and I'm off. Although I sit down to listen to Rehraas Sahib on the radio! :cool2:

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