Shameless Punjabi Actress

[Mehtab Singh]

there are many aspects to look at this..at the end of day it depends on intent of individual...

You're right veer, intention is always important to take note of. If this was some non-Sikh non-Punjabi actress, we would have reacted differently and given her benefit of doubt that she probably isn't aware of the satkaar that we give to Gurbani. But this is in fact a girl from a proper Punjabi Sikh background and who grew up not in Punjab but Canada where Sikhi flourishes a lot more than Punjab according to some opinions. She has no excuse to say she didn't know. Also, just because Maskeen jee had an Ikk Oangkaar tattoo on his hand doesn't make it right. Maybe his elders got it done on him when he was a kid and hadn't taken Amrit yet? Who knows! I repeat Johnny veer's words - Just because the previous generation did something wrong doesn't make it okay to follow. This beadbi wala trend must be discouraged.

[N30S1NGH]

Just because the previous generation did something wrong doesn't make it okay to follow. This beadbi wala trend must be discouraged

Yes agreed if its trend/sheep mentality without any thought then its definitely wrong but if someone does it and their intentions are good and they do it because its inspirational and for them to remind of gurbani/vahiguroo everyday..and who i am to say they are committing beadhi? thats their way of showing dedication. In gurbani, there is pankiti talking about- vahiguroo is not our bhappu property so we cant really have ownership over vahiguroo ji..each one of us who just started on the panth- show different way of showing devotion and get inspired from various different ways.

[Jonny101]

My angle of looking at this is from Satkar of Bani. A Sikh does full Satkar of Bani because Bani is mother of a Sikh. If a person does a tattoo on their hand or fore arm of a Tukh from Bani and say if that person is eating, with that jhootay hands they will accidently touch the Gurbani Tuk. Or say if that person urinates and some drops of the urine accidently end up touching the tattoo, that is the worst beadbi a person can do.

Most Sikhs who have Gurbani tattoos, out of ignorance think they are some how showing their pride in their religion. They don't realise the best way is not tattoos, but by following Hukams of Guru Jee.

[JSinghnz]

Hows that different from ikongkar tatto our people (previous generation) have on both male and female alike? Atleast she has some pride/anakh in her, who knows? eventually she will eventually come in khalsa life style become amritdhari and shastardhari after keep pondering upon tuk which is engraved in her hand..!!..in my personal opinion, she should have gotten tatto in english so it does not come across as beadhi or hurt other sikh sentiments- however what defines good or bad karma is person intent...everyone is different and at different state of mind seek different ways to get inspiration in sikhi, and for her may be having tatto helps her to remind vahiguroo ji and recite more gurbani..we cannot judge..yes gurbani in gurmukhi engraved in her hand may come across as beadhi but if you do feel very strongly about this, please start off against previous generation both male and female having ikongkar tatto on their hand..!!

Does anyone remember ks makhan(singer) taking amrit? Had he come across with self righteous people on here, he may have swayed somewhere else..!!

You always have a different axe to grind. You just cannot help it .

She has got pride and anakh , omg , that must be in your dream world.

Sikhs like you have low self esteem and even lesser respect for their religion

and nothing is beadbi for them

[N30S1NGH]

My angle of looking at this is from Satkar of Bani. A Sikh does full Satkar of Bani because Bani is mother of a Sikh. If a person does a tattoo on their hand or fore arm of a Tukh from Bani and say if that person is eating, with that jhootay hands they will accidently touch the Gurbani Tuk. Or say if that person urinates and some drops of the urine accidently end up touching the tattoo, that is the worst beadbi a person can do.

Most Sikhs who have Gurbani tattoos, out of ignorance think they are some how showing their pride in their religion. They don't realise the best way is not tattoos, but by following Hukams of Guru Jee.

I understand what you saying from satkar perspective, we can have vichar on sargun and nirgun ommnipresence/everywhere aspect of gurbani/bhagat pipa shabad in first page regarding this and i also know main stage of satkar of gurbani is when we live our life with self realization vahiguroo is everywhere and in everything, according to gurbani sidhant, perceive there is no dualism as such..i do have vichar on this rather not share here...,afraid i might be taken out of context..may be some other time..

[Wicked Warrior]

Is there any power or benefit in tattooing oneself with Bani? What would happen if I had the entire of Guru Maharaj tattooed on my body?

[N30S1NGH]

Is there any power or benefit in tattooing oneself with Bani? What would happen if I had the entire of Guru Maharaj tattooed on my body?

No power, but one could have tatto on body with perception- gurbani is now imprinted on body, time to imprint gurbani on mind and soul?.

[Only five]

In order to get a tattoo a person hair needs to be removed in the area where the tattoo is going. So to put Satgur's Bani on that area shows how the person had no good intentions and did not even read the Bani that was going on as a tattoo.

Reading the Bani she got tattooed it is actually saying step on to the path of Gurmat (example keep your hair uncut) and don't pay any attention to your mind. Let your mind speak, but keep your focus on the Bani of Satguru. Has she done this even at a preschool level?

[N30S1NGH]

I doubt older gursikhs with ikongkar tatto on hand would remove their hair in order to get a tatto. Not sure if she removed her hair or not..if she did, it kind of defeats the purpose.

Unless one is bhramgyani, we all do beadhi of gurbani inadvertently whether we like to claim it or not.. surely we don't do beadhi of gurbani in sargun roop but we all do beadhi of gurbani sidhant of nirgun roop for not seeing divine jot in everyone, having dualistic mindset, and being slave of 5 chors.. while claiming ourselves a sikh of Guru thats worst beadhi in my opinion ..hope this reality check would be enough for people including me off course...!!!!!!!!

[MKaur89]

I doubt older gursikhs with ikongkar tatto on hand would remove their hair in order to get a tatto. Not sure if she removed her hair or not..if she did, it kind of defeats the purpose.

Unless one is bhramgyani, we all do beadhi of gurbani inadvertently whether we like to claim it or not surely we don't do beadhi of gurbani in sargun roop but we all do beadhi of gurbani sidhant of nirgun roop for not seeing divine jot in everyone and having dualistic mindset while claiming ourselves a sikh of Guru thats worst beadhi in my opinion ..hope this reality check would be enough for people including me off course...!!!!!!!!

I'm pretty sure she'd have no qualms in removing hair so that she could have the tattoo done as she already does beadbi of kesh elsewhere on her body (head, face etc).

ਜਉ ਤਉ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਖੇਲਣ ਕਾ ਚਾਉ ॥

If you desire to play this game of love with Me,

ਸਿਰੁ ਧਰਿ ਤਲੀ ਗਲੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਆਉ ॥

Then step onto My Path with your head in hand.

If she had even attempted to understand this pankti on a basic level she would know that this 'game of love' (the path of Gursikhi) requires surrendering your mind, body and soul to Guru Ji. By doing so you accept that nothing is yours and everything belongs to Guru Ji and you keep your body and kesh intact and that involves no tattoos or piercings or other body modification and no beadbi of kesh. You take khande bhatte da Amrit and don the 5 kakkars- that includes a real kirpan and not just an image of one on your forearm, as after all what practical purpose does that serve? If you want a reminder to stay strong in your faith and incorporate as much bani, bana, seva and simran into you life as possible then just keep one visual reminder at the forefront of your mind- a reminder of the countless number of shaheeds in our history, all the sacrifices that our Gurus and their Sikhs made for us. Remember those who were scalped alive, sawn in half, boiled alive and cut piece by piece and still refused to give up kesh, their Sikhi and their love for their Guru.

Also, the problem with dismissing her tattoo as a trivial issue is the fact that as an actress she has quite a large following inside and outside of India and I'm sure plenty of people, and especially young Panjabi girls, may look up to her as a role model. What's to stop them following in her footsteps and thinking it's okay to have a tattoo like this? Older Gursikhs may have an Ik Onkar on their hands but two wrongs never make a right. And when someone like Neeru Bajwa is in the limelight and forever prancing around on screen with Harbhajan Mann in an endless stream of movies then you have certain moral duties to uphold as I'm sure she has a massive number of impressionable, young fans who may already have doubts about their fath, religion and identity and I think she is sending the wrong message across.