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New Takht Outside India Led By Panj Pyaare

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ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ

Sadh Sangat ji on the 1984 London Rally on sunday Bhai Jugraj Singh ji mentioned on his speech that we need a Takht in UK led by panj pyaare.

What's your view on his speech?

I just found this on the internet hopefully his speech will come online soon.

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It shouldn't be that difficult as utam jaigaso/sensible followers of each jathebandi which are now only 20% have already left their differences aside but issue is they need to step up become the actual voice in the panth than letting other 80% of over zealous followers in each group becoming loud voices causing all kind of tribal wars and divisions within each other.

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WJKK WJKF,

Indeed a great idea - however what will be its' aims: police the gurdwara in the uk ? or and do amrit sancharrs? why not just have a group i.e Gurdwara sudhaar lehar type movement. We have tons of issues - I will ask my local Gurdwara committee types to see what is their reaction.I also think without communicating with all th eGurdwara in the UK this step would not be wise, Im sure Jagraj Singh is aware of that anyway.

No matter how hard we bash the Gurdwara they do need funds at to survive and the only way that is through weddings Akand paaths etc. but i agree a lot ot these are not done with marayada. So if we are going to for a Takht will it require funding from all of the Gurdwara or will it create ideas for these Gurdwaras to survive without the need of huge costs of weddings etc.

I think its a bold move and needs a lot veechar - would love to see more input on it here.

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I think basics of sikh bhai jagraj nicked my idea lol I suggested a uk takht on this forum before months ago before he announced it in his recent talks and videos

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The idea of pilot offices of the Akal Takhat in all major cities with a large Sikh populous has been discussed off and on for the last decade if not more :lol2:

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Good idea. can't wait for it to happen.

HERE'S ANOTHER IDEA.

Now with globalisation maybe we could have 5 Takhts in each continent. Europe, Asia, Americas, Africa & Oceania Takhts.

Maybe have a flag with 5 Khandas like the Olympic flag (this is probably going a bit too far).

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I second what Guruvah has said.

The takhts have stood the course of time because they've been set by Gurus. We kaljugi jeevs cant copy that.

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If a uk takht or continental takhts are no good then we need a central sikh authority in each continent or country that Sikhs can go to in their respective nations to get issues sorted or guidance. At the moment there too many various organisations and gurdwara committee's with different uncoordinated agenda's. They all need to come under one authority they have to answer to in each of the country. And those countries central Sikh authorities then answer to sri akal takht sahib.

At the moment sri akal takht sahib is hijacked and occupied by sgpc badal dal masands. Gyani gurbachan singh jathedhar seems like a nice man but as we seen countless times he is a firm badalite and not independant man he pays too much lip service to badal. Sri akal takht jathedhar should always be impartial and independent man fighting only for Sikh interests alone.

There needs to be consequences for sri akal takht jathedar and badal dal outside of India. Sikhs4justice in America did a wonderful job in getting criminal cases filed against badal, his son and others which prevented them coming to or staying in America for very long as warrants were issued for their arrest. The same strategy must be applied every time these people want to come aboard that if we see crimes and human rights abuses against sikhs and others take place we hold these people to account by taking these matters to the courts. It also a good way to humiliate them also and bad for their rep and prestige.

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No need to establish a new Takht because a Takht have their own significance. But what should happen is that SGPC should create extra seats in UK/US/EU/Canada/Australia where Sikhs live in large numbers so sangat in these countries also have a voice besides also creating seats in other states of India such as J&K/UP/Rajasthan/MP/Maharasthra that also have lakhs of Sikhs.

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No need to establish a new Takht because a Takht have their own significance. But what should happen is that SGPC should create extra seats in UK/US/EU/Canada/Australia where Sikhs live in large numbers so sangat in these countries also have a voice besides also creating seats in other states of India such as J&K/UP/Rajasthan/MP/Maharasthra that also have lakhs of Sikhs.

I saw that Sikhs in Haryana wanted their own separate gurdwara committee and Prakash Badal went after them and said oh no Congress is trying to divide the Panth blah blah blah. Also, SGPC leaders need to be taken out. It is not the old days SGPC where they went after Sikh interests only. SGPC will not create extra seats.I agree with Jugraj Singh that there should be some Sikh leadership committee outside of India. Another Takht or committee is fine with me but I think SGPC and Akal Takht Jathedar will oppose this idea. I just hope for a bright future for Khalsa.

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