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[SheikhYoBooty]

Bro 598, u and Pakandi are good dudes. U like to see the best in people.

But this open-minded nature of Sikhs is what others pray upon.

The biggest victims of Islam are the innocent majority of Muslims that are not terrorists and just want a happy life.

But if we don't point out the evil facts about Prophet Muhammad's pedophilia, slavery, rapes and terrorism all of which are openly well documented in the Quran and Hadith then we are playing along with the continued enslavement of millions of innocent people to an evil world domination ideology controlled by a Arab few thugs sitting in Mecca.

In your area, these thugs foot soldiers all do their grooming on the basis of Prophet Muhammad's example.

Examine Islam and Prophet Muhammad in depth and you will see for yourself.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/015-slavery.htm

Peace

[singh598]

When did I say I will provide katha facts about prophet Mohammed I wa talking about Farid ji

I think I'll just follow the pangtee vaad viva add kaho syu na kijeh don't enter into argument SGGS

I'll pos sant ji katha on Farid cuz I recall listening to it before

[singh598]

I agree with your last post thanks bout time somebody on this forum make me smile

[SheikhYoBooty]

I agree with your last post thanks bout time somebody on this forum make me smile

We're one Panth bro.

1 thing we defo need to learn from Muslims is to recognise that non-Sikhs are a bigger threat to us than fellow Sikhs.

[Pakandi baba]

Farid Ji was a muslim who did namaaz and Muslim practices as he describes in Gurbani

So was mian Mir

Problem with the internet is to much politics and inaccurate info

Farid Ji was a muslim who did namaaz and Muslim practices as he describes in Gurbani

So was mian Mir

Problem with the internet is to much politics and inaccurate info

Bhai Saab, there a few here who are just on the bandwagon of anti-Islamic vitriol, makes them feel a tad omnipotent no doubt.

What my Guru Sahibs say is what I base my opinions on. As my Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Ji Nirankaar says that not to blame every muslim for his abysmal treatment at the hands of the Mughal sinners as he sits on the hot plate, then that to me is SAT BACHAN. He's said that as a lesson for us, but here and elsewhere the cretins ridicule the Saints/Prophets/Bhagats of other faiths and they do not realise that this hypocrisy and will distance them from Waheguru [ most here are so far from the truth and spiritualism, it's scary.

Jisnu to jaania so jan jaane - To whom you give your knowledge to, shall alone acknowledge

[Guest Jacfsing2]

There is a reason I asked for the whole shabad to be read and not just two lines. Thanks for providing the two lines but have you read from mehl 3 ? Have you read Bhagat Kabir ji's Bani on doing namaz? What about the Gurus bani on the 5 prayers, quran, and Prophet Muhammed. Does sri Dasam Granth Sahib have anything to add on Prophet Muhammad? The two lines isolated do not explain what Gurbani is saying. Neither did the Gurus isolate these two lines to be read on there own as these lines come as the 70th pauri out of 130.

Bhagat Fareed ji in these pauris is coming to realize how he was on the wrong path as a shaykh who are described as losing the game of life. Guru Sahib is instructing Bhagat ji that it is not too late even though you are very old.

Real Gurbani veechar takes a lot of time and true devotion. Reading two lines and coming to conclusion will get no one anywhere.

What he's basically saying is that life is too small to be wasting on other stuff other than paht. (Which Muslims basically do, and other "dogmatic" faiths). In the Salok's Bhagat Farid does mention Guru Nanak.

[Pakandi baba]

Bro 598, u and Pakandi are good dudes. U like to see the best in people.

But this open-minded nature of Sikhs is what others pray upon.

The biggest victims of Islam are the innocent majority of Muslims that are not terrorists and just want a happy life.

But if we don't point out the evil facts about Prophet Muhammad's pedophilia, slavery, rapes and terrorism all of which are openly well documented in the Quran and Hadith then we are playing along with the continued enslavement of millions of innocent people to an evil world domination ideology controlled by a Arab few thugs sitting in Mecca.

In your area, these thugs foot soldiers all do their grooming on the basis of Prophet Muhammad's example.

Examine Islam and Prophet Muhammad in depth and you will see for yourself.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/015-slavery.htm

Peace

Bro 598, u and Pakandi are good dudes. U like to see the best in people.

But this open-minded nature of Sikhs is what others pray upon.

The biggest victims of Islam are the innocent majority of Muslims that are not terrorists and just want a happy life.

But if we don't point out the evil facts about Prophet Muhammad's pedophilia, slavery, rapes and terrorism all of which are openly well documented in the Quran and Hadith then we are playing along with the continued enslavement of millions of innocent people to an evil world domination ideology controlled by a Arab few thugs sitting in Mecca.

In your area, these thugs foot soldiers all do their grooming on the basis of Prophet Muhammad's example.

Examine Islam and Prophet Muhammad in depth and you will see for yourself.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/015-slavery.htm

Peace

You're on here posting things agasint Islam and Mohammed. Are you divine? do you posses such divinity that you are more knowlegable than the Lord God Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Nirankar??

Here, you contemplate on this, and let me know what your perception of this verse in the Dhan Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji translates to you as [i have no doubt you'll twist it to fit into your own warped, hate filled heart

Can you fathom Gurmukhi? So, by your claims it would clearly show that Mohammed is what you perceive him to be, hence why Mahraaj is endorsing him? and his faith? Murkh

ਅਵਲਿ ਅਉਲਿ ਦੀਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਠਾ ਮਸਕਲ ਮਾਨਾ ਮਾਲੁ ਮੁਸਾਵੈ ॥

Aval a▫ul ḏīn kar miṯẖā maskal mānā māl musāvai.

First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

According to Sufism there is reincarnation, according to Islam there is one life. Sufis believe in kirtan, Muslims are prohibited from doing Kirtan. Sufis believe Guru Nanak could have been a "prophet" (he was really Waheguru's light, but that's a start) Muslims believe Muhammad was the last of prophets out of 500,000. Pir Bhudhu Shah(Sufi) bowed to Guru Sahib, Muslims create Shaheeds of Guru Sahib. A Sufi started the foundation of Harmandir Sahib, A Muslim invaded Harmandir Sahib and put some negative insult,(Massa Ranghar).

[N30S1NGH]

Sufi gnosis is true interpretation of islam. I wouldn't call sufism clash course with islam as thats not how it meant to be looked at. I would say sufi gnosis is hakikat/marfat stage in islam which only few from sharia islam - intial stages make it. Thats a story of all religions, as most have similiar stages where 80 percent of religious people have totally lost the plot and stuck, confined in their own sharia within their own religion as opposed not reject it totally but as liquid flow seamlessly spontaneously naturally transcendent to higher reality within dharam.

Here are the stages of sufi gnosis within Islam-

Here is the glimpse in Islam level of spirituality..Muslim holy saints divide the whole ascent into seven valleys-

1. Valley of Search(Wadde-a-Tallash)
2. Valley of Love (Wadee-a-Ishaq)
3. Valley of Knowledge (Wadeea-Marfat)
4. Valley of meditation or Ibadat (Wadee-a-Mehveat)
5. Valley of Unity (Wadee-Wehdeeat)
6. Valley of Bliss (Wadee-a-Noor or Wadee-a-Hairam)
7. Valley of merger in God or Allah (Wadee-A-Finah-Fillah)

In Japuji Sahib five khands (Realms) have been described also on this subject. Those are 1. Dharam Khand (Realm of Righteousness) 2. Gian Khand (Realm Of Knowledge) 3. Saram Khand (Realm of Spiritual effort). 4. Karam Khand (Realm of Grace) 5. Sachkhand (realm of truth). Those valley or realms means samething its just they are name differently just like one god known as vahiguroo, allah, ishvar, ram and many countless names...!

All dharam have four layers/stages- Shariat, Tariqat, Marfat and Hakikat . Sikhi have same structure in stages (similar stages are discussed in anand karaj lavan)

At shariat layer of sikhi one takes admission to sikhi by taking amrit, by taking the physical initiation khanda batta da amrit and receiving naam amrit is quite important as it symbolizes that now student/shish/sikh has a guru/teacher in our case our guru is sri guru granth sahib ji and saints/panj pyares are guides just available for help between path of journey between you and your guru.

It's pretty common to see these days people(especially youths are spending their precious time in doubts/pondering/debating-winning arguments over policy(rehat details etc) just accept it and move on to different stages i.e - if one in marfat stage, one can transcendent on some of rituals in shariat (rehat) or one can keep them without paying any attention to them so much so not even one second or breath is spent pondering over the rituals in shariat layer because focus is actually on the adhyatam now.

Rehat maryada as it is supposed to free an individual not attach back to dogma..again nothing wrong with rehat maryada be it bibek, chalisa itself but if caution is not paid in the mindset same thing could be turned into dogma by individual.

Guru maharaj has provided his hand to them to get them out from web of trap in the first-shariat layer of sikhi by giving this vak:

All though originally updesh given to sharia panthi muslim of that time but gurbani is meant for everyone including off course sikhs, its fits perfectably looking at the sad state of affairs among holier than thou amritdharis.

Ang- 1083

saraa sareeath lae ka(n)maavahu ||

Let your practice be to live the spiritual life.

thareekath tharak khoj ttolaavahu ||

Let your spiritual cleansing be to renounce the world and seek God.

maarafath man maarahu abadhaalaa milahu hakeekath jith fir n maraa ||3||

Let control of the mind be your spiritual wisdom, O holy man; meeting with God, you shall never die again. ||3|

[Ranjeet01]

N30Singh

Those seven valleys terms are in Persian not Arabic. Sufi seems to be persian in nature.

Just a thought.