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The Prophet Mohammed was as above until he got blessed with spiritually he used to fall into samadhi

Listening to sant singh maskeen katha he makes references to prophet Mohammed as a saint

Baba Gurbachan Singh Bindravale states that the Prophet stole the Quran which was written by somebody else

Sikhi stance is not to talk I'll of the founder of Islam

I can guarantee you all You Don't know anything about Islam which is a very deep and good religion

The Gurus never said Islam is bad but postulated the superiorness of Sikhism

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Oh sorry. I seem to have wandered onto the wrong thread. I was looking for the one that had an intellient discussion going about charlie hebdo. It seems, judging by 'sikhkosh' and 'sheikhyerbooty's posts, I have mistakingly found the British National Party / Ku Klux Klan facism and racism appreciation thread by mistake. My bad.

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Baba Farid Ji lived and preached according to Gurmat. Sufi's are non-Muslims by definition.

As a non-Muslim Sufi spiritualist he rejected Prophet Muhammad's pedophilia, slavery and terrorism.

Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj was not a Muslim in any way, shape or form. Kabir Ji Maharaj repeatedly tears apart the lies of Islam to shreds within Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj (if only you would care to read). The Muslims repeatedly tried to kill Kabir Ji Maharaj several times for rejecting and ridiculing Islam.

Bhai Mardana Ji was the first Sikh! How dare you label a Gurmukh like Bhai Mardana Ji as a Muslim when again like Bhagat Kabir Ji Maharaj the Muslims actually repeatedly tried to kill Bhai Mardana Ji for rejecting Islam (as Prophet Muhammad ordered that those who leave his religion should be killed).

Pir Buddhu Shah, Sain Mian Mir and Pir Bikhan Shah were all non-Muslim Sufi spiritualists who lived and preached according to Gurmat. Sufi's are not Muslims. Sikhs and Muslims all accept the oneness of Allah. Just because Sufi spiritualists often use the word Allah for God does not make them Muslim. And true Sufi spiritualists reject the pedophilia, slavery and terrorism that Prophet Muhammad and the Quran promote.

"Sufi Muslim" is a recent misnomer as the persecution faced by Sufi spiritualists forced many in Muslim societies to pretend they were Muslims for fear of being killed as apostates (those who have left Islam that Prophet Muhammad ordered should be killed). Ask yourself how many true Muslims would bow in front of Guru Sahib when Prophet Muhammad ordered that Muslims can only bow towards his birthplace Mecca?

Pir Buddhu Shah, Sain Mian Mir and Pir Bhikan Shah all bowed before Guru Sahib instead of Mecca.

Forget about Prophet Muhammad for a second, answer the following questions Pakindi Babar ...

Q1. Do you admit that a 54 year old man who has sex with a 9year old girl is a pedophile?

Q2. Do you accept that those who kill innocent civilians for financial profit can be classed as terrorists?

Q3. Do you accept that rich Slaveowners who sell innocent black African children for profit are wrong?

Q4. Do you admit that a rich Slaveowner who has sex with female slaves is immoral?

Q5. Are you serious in thinking that great Gurmukh Sikhs like Bhai Mardana Ji and those who wrote Gurbani like Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj would believe in a man like Prophet Muhammad who the Quran and Hadiths openly admit was a pedophile, murderer, rapist, slaveowner and terrorist according to all modern day standards?

Well said!

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I am a student of Guru Granth Sahib which you clearly have never read. Internal evidence all suggest Bhagat Fareed Ji met Guru Nanak Sahib. People like you even claim Bhagat Kabeer and Bhagat Ravidas never met Guru Nanak Sahib because they were born much before. But the date of births of Bhagats currently accepted are wrong and there is enough proof to say that they were contemponaries of the Guru.

Lets debate instead of crying and labelling each other missionaries, RSS etc. Refute me with the knowledge you posses.

1. Bhagat Fareed referring to the fact that he is a succesor of the Gaddi of Sheikh Fareed in Raag Asa.
ਜਿਸੁ ਆਸਣਿ ਹਮ ਬੈਠੇ ਕੇਤੇ ਬੈਸਿ ਗਇਆ ॥੫॥
That seat, upon which we now sit - many others sat on it and have since departed. ||5||
2. The head of Sheikh Fareeds order is Professor Khalil Nizami. Nizami has confirmed in his book that the Gurbani we have is written by Fareed Sani, the contemponary of Guru Nanak Sahib who was influenced so much by Gurmat that he used unIslamic terms such as Gur, Saadh etc.
You should read a book called Bhagat Bani Ithaas by Gyani Gurdit Singh which clears the issue of Bhagats and Sikhs.
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