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1 hour ago, proactive said:

Like with everything else liberal SJW organisation have been subverting Sikhi and Sikh institutions in order to advance their own agenda. Langar was always a part of Pangat which was part of the Sangat - Pangat. Langar was served after the Sangat - the congregation was finished. But Gurdwaras started to serve Langar throughout the day rather than after Sangat which diluted the Pangat aspect of Sikhi. After ALL the congregation had sat as a Sangat then ALL the congregation sat in Pangat and had langar. Now anyone can go into the Gurdwara do matha tek and straightaway go to the langar. This gives the Gurdwara the feel of some kind of drop in centre where people just go for half an hour and within that time they are done matha tek and had langar as well. Perhaps this was something that was needed in the west given the lifestyle we have but still it was an innovation that diluted the aspect of Sangat-Pangat. 

This was taken further by having event like Langar on university campuses while this gives more exposure of what happens in a Gurdwara but without have a Sangat first these events also affect the concept of Sangat-Pangat. While the changes may have done some damage to the Sangat-Pangat concept the SJW liberal Sikh organisations like Khalsa Aid use or in truth abuse Sikh concepts in order to further their SJW agenda. KA sees nothing wrong in describing food aid they give to places where they are neither in a Gurdwara or have the presence of the Guru Granth Sahib as Langar. This is totally contrary to Sikh teachings yet because not many Sikhs have knowledge of these deeper significance of what langar is, they do not call out KA and those that do are usually quickly shut down by KA and their ignorant followers. Ravi Singh in fact is a person with very thin skin and cannot take even a slight criticism of the way his organisation works. He's quick to block anyone off his social media..lol. In fact most of the comments you will now see are only those which congratulate him on what a great Sikh he is or people who have painted portraits of him! He may have started off with noble intents but today he is no different to the Gurdwara pardhans  who are only in that position for self promotion. According to the returns KA sent to the charity commission, KA had £5.5 million in the bank and cash in hand up from about £3 million in 2018. Yet whenever there is a disaster rather than use that money he is quick to put out post begging for more donations. In the lockdown in Punjab he has posted a few videos showing his KA volunteers giving out some rations to various people and based on that his calculations are that he will get many tens of thousands from Sikhs thinking that their donations will be helping Sikhs back in Punjab. 

Now ask yourself, this Ravi Singh and KA are quick to accuse the SGPC and Gurdwaras of not doing anything for Sikhs. In fact he had a video a few years ago of a former Nihang Sikh who because a Christian because he was not helped by the Sikh organisations when he was in need and the Christian missionaries filled that role. So what is Ravi Singh now doing with £5.5 million in the bank? He is sitting on it while even if he used a half of that money in Punjab it could be a game changer in Punjab. 

Not only are KA wasting millions of the Panth's money on causes which serve no Panthic benefit apart from promoting him and his organisation and which divert money which could have gone to help Sikhs, but they are also subverting Sikhi. He is quite happy to also subvert concepts like Daswandh which was a monetary collection which was used for the betterment of the Panth into a charity collection to be used where he deems fit. By referring to his charity collections as Daswandh especially when targeting a Sikh audience he knows he will get more because Sikhs have a sentimental attachment to Daswandh which is not the same as he used the word Daan instead. 

 

Bro why you jealous? Let em serve langar. How about you do something since the people you criticize are already busy?

Let's hear YOUR ideas for what YOU'RE gonna do. 

 

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2 hours ago, proactive said:

According to the returns KA sent to the charity commission, KA had £5.5 million in the bank and cash in hand up from about £3 million in 2018. Yet whenever there is a disaster rather than use that money he is quick to put out post begging for more donations. In the lockdown in Punjab he has posted a few videos showing his KA volunteers giving out some rations to various people and based on that his calculations are that he will get many tens of thousands from Sikhs thinking that their donations will be helping Sikhs back in Punjab. 

Now ask yourself, this Ravi Singh and KA are quick to accuse the SGPC and Gurdwaras of not doing anything for Sikhs. In fact he had a video a few years ago of a former Nihang Sikh who because a Christian because he was not helped by the Sikh organisations when he was in need and the Christian missionaries filled that role. So what is Ravi Singh now doing with £5.5 million in the bank? He is sitting on it while even if he used a half of that money in Punjab it could be a game changer in Punjab. 

Not only are KA wasting millions of the Panth's money on causes which serve no Panthic benefit apart from promoting him and his organisation and which divert money which could have gone to help Sikhs, but they are also subverting Sikhi. He is quite happy to also subvert concepts like Daswandh which was a monetary collection which was used for the betterment of the Panth into a charity collection to be used where he deems fit. By referring to his charity collections as Daswandh especially when targeting a Sikh audience he knows he will get more because Sikhs have a sentimental attachment to Daswandh which is not the same as he used the word Daan instead. 

 

Is it possible Ravi Singh is playing some sort of 'long game' with his aim eventually to have more money to help Sikhs?

It might be he worries that if he is too active in Punjab, he will become an enemy of the ruling class and could be imprisoned or banned in some way from going to Punjab

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1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

Is it possible Ravi Singh is playing some sort of 'long game' with his aim eventually to have more money to help Sikhs?

It might be he worries that if he is too active in Punjab, he will become an enemy of the ruling class and could be imprisoned or banned in some way from going to Punjab

21 years is quite a long time if it was his long game!!

Not really because all that sucking up to Muslims is more likely to get him banned than helping Sikhs. Sikh Relief has been helping Sikh political prisoners as well as their families and although they have faced harassment by the authorities they still continue to do their work. 

Ravi Singh did use that excuse initially because KA just concentrated on Kosovo in 1999. When the Chattisinghpura massacre happened in 2000 he had people at the Nagar Kirtan's that year with buckets asking for donations in the name of those Sikhs. I doubt if all or even a majority of that money ever reached those Sikhs. I think if that was his intention, then the plaudits that he got from non-Sikhs for his work has turned his head and he makes no mention of his initial plans. In fact his charity spends about 20% of its total expenditure in India and of that I would guess he spends 50% so possible one pound out of every 10 is spent on Sikhs. 

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1 hour ago, proactive said:

This is the response he gives as well because he has no answers to why he is expending the money he collects as Daswandh on non-Sikhs when Sikhs are in need. This response is usual from anyone who is corrupt and who does not want to discuss his views. 

For myself I do not collect £35,000 a year to manage my own charity. I work for a living and give some to Sikh charities such as British Sikh Council who work with Sikligars and Sikh Relief who I have already mentioned above. 

 

You saying Ranjeet collects Daswandh...pockets 35k... then disperses the rest to non sikh causes?

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