PANJ BANIA DA PAATH

[SikhKosh]

Here are the bits by Bhai Gurdas about nitnem, interestingly Jaap instead of Japji (which could not refer to Jaap Sahib as the vaars were written during earlier Gurus times).


ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਅਗਾਧਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਹੋਇ ਗੁਰ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪੰਦੇ।
By putting their mind in the unfathomable God through deep concentration, they remember Guru, the God by reciting Jaapu (Ji)

ਸੰਝੈ ਸੋਦਰੁ ਗਾਵਣਾ ਮਨ ਮੇਲੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੇਲਿ ਮਿਲੰਦੇ।
They sing the Sodar in the evening and heartily associate with one another.

ਰਾਤੀ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਸੋਹਿਲਾ ਕਰਿ ਆਰਤੀ ਪਰਸਾਦ ਵੰਡੰਦੇ।
Having recited the Sohila and made supplication at night they distribute sacred food (prasad).

And elsewhere in Pauri 38:

ਸੋਦਰੁ ਆਰਤੀ ਗਾਵੀਐ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੇ ਜਾਪੁ ਉਚਾਰਾ।
Sodar and Arati were sung and in the ambrosial hours Jaapu was recited.

[ipledgeblue]

12 hours ago, SikhKosh said:

Here are the bits by Bhai Gurdas about nitnem, interestingly Jaap instead of Japji (which could not refer to Jaap Sahib as the vaars were written during earlier Gurus times).


ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਧਿ ਅਗਾਧਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਇਕ ਮਨਿ ਹੋਇ ਗੁਰ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪੰਦੇ।
By putting their mind in the unfathomable God through deep concentration, they remember Guru, the God by reciting Jaapu (Ji)

ਸੰਝੈ ਸੋਦਰੁ ਗਾਵਣਾ ਮਨ ਮੇਲੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੇਲਿ ਮਿਲੰਦੇ।
They sing the Sodar in the evening and heartily associate with one another.

ਰਾਤੀ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਸੋਹਿਲਾ ਕਰਿ ਆਰਤੀ ਪਰਸਾਦ ਵੰਡੰਦੇ।
Having recited the Sohila and made supplication at night they distribute sacred food (prasad).

And elsewhere in Pauri 38:

ਸੋਦਰੁ ਆਰਤੀ ਗਾਵੀਐ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੇ ਜਾਪੁ ਉਚਾਰਾ।
Sodar and Arati were sung and in the ambrosial hours Jaapu was recited.

so Sodar Rehras and Arti should both be performed for nitnem, however many gurdwaras seem to ignore this as does sgpc maryada!

[NaamTiharoJoJape]

18 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

so Sodar Rehras and Arti should both be performed for nitnem, however many gurdwaras seem to ignore this as does sgpc maryada!

wasn't aware gurudwaras dont do aarti in evening, if thats the case there probably are gurudwaras not performing asa di vaar amritvela either 

[ipledgeblue]

10 hours ago, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

wasn't aware gurudwaras dont do aarti in evening, if thats the case there probably are gurudwaras not performing asa di vaar amritvela either 

in the uk some radio stations and tv stations don't play aarti after sodar rehras, and same with some gurdwaras. I am sure I have also seen this in gurdwaras in punjab!  Asa di waar however I think is more regular!

[SikhKosh]

Mukatnama in Sau Sakhi, ascribed to Bhai Sahib Singh, also gives hint at Japji Sahib being the morning bani but encourages one to read Aarta generally as a part of nitnem as well. These are the only two sources (Bhai Gurdas Vaaran and Mukatnama) indicating Aarti and Aarta as daily nitnem (liturgical prayers) for Sikhs.

ਖਾਵੇ ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਨਾਮ ਜਪਿ ਜਪੁ ਪੜ੍ਹ ਲੈ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ 
A Sikh should eat after reciting (jap) the Gurus name and reciting Japji. (6th stanza)

ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰ ਕਰਿ ਆਰਤਾ, ਗੁਰੂ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ ਕੰਗ 
After remembering God (doing simran), one should do Aarta (by which) the Guru eradicates poverty. (11th stanza)

Roughly translated by myself.

The Mukatnama, altough not without its share of flaws, is an interesting Rahit because it refers tobacco as 'jagat jooth', forbids marrying into the same gotras (family names - one of the only Rahits that indicate this), mentions daswandh and many other Sikh terms that are not always found in other rahitnamas.

[intrigued]

On 2/13/2022 at 2:14 PM, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

but then whats the minimum? what banis were recited during amrit sanchar?

Do any first hand accounts mention this or is there conflicting information?

[NaamTiharoJoJape]

3 hours ago, intrigued said:

Do any first hand accounts mention this or is there conflicting information?

some conflicting information veerji on the morning nitnem and banis read during amrit sanchar (anonymous) 

different versions claim Guru Maharaj read different dohra like "deh shiva", or some swaiye, etc. and like I said, no mention of panj bania comes apart from Bhai Jaitas Sri Gur Katha and Bhai Saroop Singhs Guru Kia Sakhian (based on bhatt vehis I think) (I have heard some nirmala sources from 19th century do have similar nitnems to panj bania, havent seen for myself however) , puratan Gutka sahibs have nitnem and panj granthi and das granthi mixed up, and again the whole theory on japu jaapu referring to panj bania as collective looms as well 

[GurjantGnostic]

15 hours ago, SikhKosh said:

Mukatnama in Sau Sakhi, ascribed to Bhai Sahib Singh, also gives hint at Japji Sahib being the morning bani but encourages one to read Aarta generally as a part of nitnem as well. These are the only two sources (Bhai Gurdas Vaaran and Mukatnama) indicating Aarti and Aarta as daily nitnem (liturgical prayers) for Sikhs.

ਖਾਵੇ ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਨਾਮ ਜਪਿ ਜਪੁ ਪੜ੍ਹ ਲੈ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ 
A Sikh should eat after reciting (jap) the Gurus name and reciting Japji. (6th stanza)

ਨਾਮ ਸਿਮਰ ਕਰਿ ਆਰਤਾ, ਗੁਰੂ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ ਕੰਗ 
After remembering God (doing simran), one should do Aarta (by which) the Guru eradicates poverty. (11th stanza)

Roughly translated by myself.

The Mukatnama, altough not without its share of flaws, is an interesting Rahit because it refers tobacco as 'jagat jooth', forbids marrying into the same gotras (family names - one of the only Rahits that indicate this), mentions daswandh and many other Sikh terms that are not always found in other rahitnamas.

Excellent rendition. 

Somebody from the uk, please find Veer Ji and compel him to record more using a salotar for motivation. I can't take him not posting any longer. 

His channel was off to a great start. 

Continue the beating until he joins here. Please. 

[Arsh1469]

From what I know puratan Sikhs and many Sants read Panj Granthi. 

Sukhmani Sahib 

Shabad Hazare Pt.5

Oankar

Sidh Gost

Bavan Akhri

Japji

Rehras

Sohila

Asa Ki Vaar

[NaamTiharoJoJape]

On 2/18/2022 at 8:10 AM, Arsh1469 said:

From what I know puratan Sikhs and many Sants read Panj Granthi. 

Sukhmani Sahib 

Shabad Hazare Pt.5

Oankar

Sidh Gost

Bavan Akhri

Japji

Rehras

Sohila

Asa Ki Vaar

ive heard that panj granthi pothi sahib was blessed by sri Guru Hargobind sahib Maharaj when sikhs asked how to have saroop of aad sri guru granth sahib maharaj  so these were the banis prescribed by them to sikhs who desired as such 

the nitnem of puratan sikhs is quite amazing and as sant giani kartar singh jee have said "puratan Guru ke sikhan vich bare vade san"