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14 hours ago, KulwinderM said:

@californiasardar1 I personally have seen/know many Keshdharis who do all puthe kaam, and honestly should  not even be considered a part of the Panth. Being Mona doesn’t mean a Sikh has given up on all the values. Do you see how divided we are already? What is the point of even making such comments. It will literally make people turn away. Someone might come on here to reconnect with Sikhi- and all this will do is turn them away again.

Bhul Chuk Maaf Karyo🙏

 

Where did I defend keshdharis who do puthe kam?

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

Where did I defend keshdharis who do puthe kam?

 

 

 

Veerji, 

I just wanted to say that being Keshdhari or Mona, or even obedience of the panj kakkars should not be a definite measure of someones’s character who wants to do their part for the Panth. You had said mone Singhs should not be taken seriously in this regard.

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3 hours ago, KulwinderM said:

Veerji, 

I just wanted to say that being Keshdhari or Mona, or even obedience of the panj kakkars should not be a definite measure of someones’s character who wants to do their part for the Panth. You had said mone Singhs should not be taken seriously in this regard.

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Loyalty and devotion for Guru Sahib gradually leads to prem for his rehat. Castigating your own people when we should be coming together is unwise. 

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5 hours ago, KulwinderM said:

Veerji, 

I just wanted to say that being Keshdhari or Mona, or even obedience of the panj kakkars should not be a definite measure of someones’s character who wants to do their part for the Panth. You had said mone Singhs should not be taken seriously in this regard.

Bhul chuk maaf
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These two separate statements do not contradict each other:

 

1. Being keshdhari doesn't mean someone follows Sikhi properly

2. Being mona means that that person has renounced Sikhi

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Why has this thread been diverting to a hair issue (keshdhari/amritdhari/mona)? so weird

Anyways getting back to the topic ....something about deep sidhu and others around him just doesn't sit right with me not saying he is an indian govt agent just yet but I remember reading somewhere on the net about when Indira gandhi sanctioned R&AW to help finance, arm and train up tamil tigers to wage war against sri lanka at the same time it is alleged an offshoot group within the R&AW also helped form BKI and other "sikh militant" groups to play both sides of the field. And if you see how many arms they had there was no way they could have had those modern weapons without the help of insiders within the Indian army and establishment.

And its said that deep sidhu famous relative is a BK militant who was allegedly killed by the indian state in 1984 before op blue star. We know from history that a few credible sources in books and interviews over the years it is said that sant bhindranwale and his DDT followers had a minor gun battle with the BK group where Sant was eventually forced to shift from nanak niwas and into sri akal takht sahib. We know from 2014 released govt papers that operation sundown was proposed around the same time but was allegedly canceled by indira gandhi, the operation prior to operation blue star where they had allegedly had trained armed commando agents that had already infiltrated in nanak niwas ready to kidnapp/murder Sant bindranwale. But what wasn't released was information on who were these pro-government commando's? it seems to collaborate with the incident of the "inhouse" firefight between BK and DDT.

And if Akal Takht (the parliament and voice of the Sikh nation) was the main target of India's terrorist operation then BK militant group or those associated with it have either been knowing or unknowing been patsy puppets of the Indian establishment.

That is information is something all Sikhs worldwide should keep in mind and watch out for these suspicious elements (govt agents) trying to stir up useless violence in order to disrupt peaceful protests playing into the hands of the devious Indian establishment.

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If you look at the timeline of Deep Sidhu's twitter, you will see a typical Punjabi guy promoting his film and posting pictures of him with other actors and friends. But on 10 Nov 2017 he posted something which is surprising. 

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Could the Indian state agencies  have been trying to turn an actor into an asset three years ago while there was no agitation going on in Punjab and the threat of an AAP government in Punjab had been stopped  by the congress win six months before? 

While still posting pics of actors after this tweet he then still posts some tweets which show how a typical Sikh guy born in 1984 and who would have gone through the Indian educational institutions which would have portrayed the Sikh liberation struggle as a terrorist movement is slowly realising the truth. He then posts this tweet-;

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Along with this a year later

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What this shows is that he was gradually opening his eyes to what had happened in Punjab and what the status quo was between Punjab and the Indian state. Whenever was interviewed during the agitation he always about not just repealing the farm laws but also changing the way the country is being ruled and how the constitution was being misused against the people. The interview with Barkha Dutt in which she tried to ambush him into accepting her view of Sant Bhindranwale as a terrorist shows that he had some integrity and he could have easily accepted her view and been a poster boy for the leftist Indian media. 

There is also a story about Deep Sidhu during Sunny Deol's election campaign Kamal Sharma of the BJP said some insults against Sant Bhindranwale and that Deep Sidhu nearly came to blows over this. he also refused to go with the election team to canvass for votes from the Nirankaris.

Now I could be wrong and this could all be an elaborate Indian agency set up but I for one as willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. 

 

 

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16 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Loyalty and devotion for Guru Sahib gradually leads to prem for his rehat. Castigating your own people when we should be coming together is unwise. 

 

I did not castigate anyone.

Monay castigate themselves every time they shave, every time they visit the barber.

Monay are so pathetic that they can't even take responsibility for their own actions. Do I force anyone to go get a haircut? No.

 

As Sant ji has stated over and over again in his speeches, if one does absolutely nothing, kesh grows automatically. Monay actively choose to move away from Sikhi. They exert themselves to distance themselves from Sikhi. They could choose to be visible Sikhs bit doing LITERALLY NOTHING. But instead of doing nothing, they would rather make an effort to avoid being identified as Sikhs.

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24 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:

I did not castigate anyone.

Monay castigate themselves every time they shave, every time they visit the barber.

Monay are so pathetic that they can't even take responsibility for their own actions. Do I force anyone to go get a haircut? No.

As Sant ji has stated over and over again in his speeches, if one does absolutely nothing, kesh grows automatically. Monay actively choose to move away from Sikhi. They exert themselves to distance themselves from Sikhi. They could choose to be visible Sikhs bit doing LITERALLY NOTHING. But instead of doing nothing, they would rather make an effort to avoid being identified as Sikhs.

You kinda do, bro. It's your "thing." I'm not knocking you, it's just apparent from your posts. You rarely make a post that doesn't mention how moneh are scum. Do you feel like they've robbed you of the woman you otherwise would've had if every Sikh male was a Singh, thus levelling the playfield in your favour? But that doesn't make sense, because amritdhari guys marry amritdhari girls; some keshdhari males end up with very attractive moni females. You can take amrit today and find an amritdhari girl / woman tomorrow. What's stopping you?

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You pathetic losers. If you guys even had any common sense, or if you were remotely associated, you'd reach out to someone IN the movement. They'll tell you just who Deep Sidhu's family is. You clowns believe every video you see? You people were the same type who jumped to call kharkus and Sant Ji agents because the Akalis said so. Our kaum is weak because of YOU. 

And by movement, I mean Khalistan, not this protest. 

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why the hate towards Deep Sidhu, because he rised the nishan sahib, on red fort ,on india republic day.The same sikh flag , the sikhs fought the british with. Today its a crime to fly the sikh flag.Deep Sidhu has not killed any one, the farmers protest has not  been derailed.The red fort incident gave the protest international media coverage, taken it to a new level.The motorway picnic was going nowhere.Deep Sidhu and Lakha Sidhana are a god send for sikhi and punjab issues And are willing to put their life and freedom on the line.If better sikhs are willing to come forward the position is yours,But there is no one else.The punjabi youth look up to these guys

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