Panjab marriages and exodus

[proactive]

On 2/11/2022 at 3:42 AM, Suchi said:

 

As I've already posted I've already experienced Enlightenment but this was reversed using Military technology to stop me gaining powers. 

 

[Suchi]

16 hours ago, proactive said:

So no credits for looking after parents throughout childhood and adulthood? 

[Suchi]

19 hours ago, S1ngh said:

Suchi the enlightened one !!! 

Oh  if only you knew! 

[dallysingh101]

On 2/10/2022 at 7:54 PM, 5aaban said:

No women (or men) should be participating in these things. 

This was posted almost exactly 9 years ago, so the problem isn't new:

Jalandhar (Punjab), Nov 20 (IANS) Many young women from Punjab in search of jobs abroad end up illegally in Greece, where they are forced into the flesh trade, says an NGO that has taken up their cause after a request from gurdwaras in that country.

Managing committees of Greece-based gurdwaras have written to Punjab NGO Lok Bhalai Party (LBP), which works for the rights of Indians stranded abroad, to stop Punjabi girls from coming to Greece.

The gurdwaras have pointed out that Punjabi girls, in search of better jobs, are reaching Greece illegally, but there are no opportunities available for them there.

'Ten gurdwaras in Greece have collectively sent us a request letter to stop the people of Punjab from sending girls to Greece as there are no jobs available there,' the NGO's senior vice-president Avtar Singh Mullanpuri told IANS here.

'Failing to find any jobs, these girls live in very miserable conditions and many of them are forced into flesh trade,' he added.

 

Around 50 girls are currently stranded in Greece, he said.

'They can stay in the gurdwaras during the day but according to the rules of the Greece government, they cannot stay there at night. So, the girls are on roads at night and are sexually exploited many a time,' Mullanpuri said.

He alleged that Baba Gurnam Singh, a travel agent from Moga in Punjab who resides in Georgia, has been placing advertisements in media and taking Punjabi girls to that country and handing them over to Pakistan-based agents, who illegally take them to Greece through the forests of Turkey.

'Agents are sexually exploiting the helpless girls who do not know the local language. We do not even have an Indian embassy in Georgia which the victims can approach,' Mullanpuri pointed out.

The Lok Bhalai Party has started a campaign to deal with the problem and its representatives have urged the government for intervention.

Said the NGO's president Balwant Singh Ramoowalia: 'We have started a campaign to educate Punjab's people that they should not send their children to Georgia and Greece. There are no jobs for them there. Travel agents are minting money by making false promises.'

'We also urge the central and state governments to immediately intervene in the matter and ensure the safe return of the girls. They also need to keep a tab on the unscrupulous agents,' Ramoowalia said.

'We have sought a list of the girls' names and addresses from the gurdwaras so that we can approach their families in Punjab,' he added.

Ramoowalia said family members of the victim girls are not coming out in the open as they are afraid of social stigma and criticism.

He said the stranded girls, who are from different parts of Punjab, are in their early 20s and they had reached Georgia on student visas.

In their letter to the NGO, the Greece gurdwaras have mentioned that earlier there were cases of Punjabi men illegally coming there but now they have observed a sudden surge in the number of girls adopting this illegitimate immigration path.

 

 

 

[proudkaur21]

4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

This was posted almost exactly 9 years ago, so the problem isn't new:

Jalandhar (Punjab), Nov 20 (IANS) Many young women from Punjab in search of jobs abroad end up illegally in Greece, where they are forced into the flesh trade, says an NGO that has taken up their cause after a request from gurdwaras in that country.

Managing committees of Greece-based gurdwaras have written to Punjab NGO Lok Bhalai Party (LBP), which works for the rights of Indians stranded abroad, to stop Punjabi girls from coming to Greece.

The gurdwaras have pointed out that Punjabi girls, in search of better jobs, are reaching Greece illegally, but there are no opportunities available for them there.

'Ten gurdwaras in Greece have collectively sent us a request letter to stop the people of Punjab from sending girls to Greece as there are no jobs available there,' the NGO's senior vice-president Avtar Singh Mullanpuri told IANS here.

'Failing to find any jobs, these girls live in very miserable conditions and many of them are forced into flesh trade,' he added.

 

Around 50 girls are currently stranded in Greece, he said.

'They can stay in the gurdwaras during the day but according to the rules of the Greece government, they cannot stay there at night. So, the girls are on roads at night and are sexually exploited many a time,' Mullanpuri said.

He alleged that Baba Gurnam Singh, a travel agent from Moga in Punjab who resides in Georgia, has been placing advertisements in media and taking Punjabi girls to that country and handing them over to Pakistan-based agents, who illegally take them to Greece through the forests of Turkey.

'Agents are sexually exploiting the helpless girls who do not know the local language. We do not even have an Indian embassy in Georgia which the victims can approach,' Mullanpuri pointed out.

The Lok Bhalai Party has started a campaign to deal with the problem and its representatives have urged the government for intervention.

Said the NGO's president Balwant Singh Ramoowalia: 'We have started a campaign to educate Punjab's people that they should not send their children to Georgia and Greece. There are no jobs for them there. Travel agents are minting money by making false promises.'

'We also urge the central and state governments to immediately intervene in the matter and ensure the safe return of the girls. They also need to keep a tab on the unscrupulous agents,' Ramoowalia said.

'We have sought a list of the girls' names and addresses from the gurdwaras so that we can approach their families in Punjab,' he added.

Ramoowalia said family members of the victim girls are not coming out in the open as they are afraid of social stigma and criticism.

He said the stranded girls, who are from different parts of Punjab, are in their early 20s and they had reached Georgia on student visas.

In their letter to the NGO, the Greece gurdwaras have mentioned that earlier there were cases of Punjabi men illegally coming there but now they have observed a sudden surge in the number of girls adopting this illegitimate immigration path.

 

 

 

Why do parents just send their daughters like this to any random country?

[5aaban]

3 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

Why do parents just send their daughters like this to any random country?

I believe it's due to the misconception everything is a "fairytale" overseas and it will raise their economic status. Like I mentioned before, the social fabric of Panjab is tearing apart. Some parents themselves set up contract marriages for their daughters to move abroad or just send them off alone to countries like Saudi Arabia, Cyprus etc.  

[proudkaur21]

58 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

I believe it's due to the misconception everything is a "fairytale" overseas and it will raise their economic status. Like I mentioned before, the social fabric of Panjab is tearing apart. Some parents themselves set up contract marriages for their daughters to move abroad or just send them off alone to countries like Saudi Arabic, Cyprus etc.  

And then they cry even after they are warned that things are not all Roses in other countries. Even here in Canada alot of girls in prostitution and what not . Such a sad state of affairs. Here this student was killed by her gora bf like 2 3 years ago because she apparently married him for permanemt residence and was having an affair with another man. No morals or shame left in our people.

[dallysingh101]

4 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

Why do parents just send their daughters like this to any random country?

I'd say a mixture of greed and naivety? 

On another forum a canadian brother was saying that nowadays young females are being sent abroad first because they are more clever than the thick blokes and pass the ILETS, but then chose to leave their husband behind and not call him over after. 

[5aaban]

https://thewire.in/politics/in-punjabs-doaba-and-majha-unemployment-drugs-and-dreams-of-canada-dominate-young-minds

In Punjab's Doaba and Majha, Unemployment, Drugs and Dreams of Canada Dominate Young Minds

Unimpressed by unfulfilled promises over the years, voters are confused about who is most likely to seriously respond to their issues.

 

Jalandhar/Amritsar: In Punjab’s Dalit heartland and the NRI rich Doaba region, some key words that figure prominently in people’s conversations are Canada, unemployment, drugs and inflation.

Every Saturday, young people are found not outside multiplexes or shopping malls, but hotels and banquet halls to appear for the IELTS exam. This trend has been growing amongst the working class too.

Amidst hoardings of Congress, AAP, SAD-BSP, BJP candidates at IELTS centres, Mandeep Singh (23) from Ahmadpur village in Kapurthala, whose family runs a taxi service, said, “People in my village are talking about a ‘jhaadu (broom – AAP’s election symbol), but I am concerned about going to Canada. I could not clear my IELTS exam earlier but I will try again. Here we don’t have any jobs and even if we get one, the salary is meagre and inflation is a headache.”

Mandeep said, “Nearly every boy in our village has moved to Canada, Australia, the UK or New Zealand. Though people from Doaba have been going abroad for a long time, with the availability of study visas the trend has picked up pace. People want jobs and a good quality life, not lofty promises.”

Like Mandeep, there are several young people who find themselves caught between unemployment, moving abroad and the burning issue of drugs.

A view of a building in Jalandhar with visa offices of all countries, especially Canada. Photo: Kusum Arora

Varinder Pal, a young graduate, is back home in Adampur from Abu Dhabi in the UAE. SAD-BSP and the Congress are locked in a close fight here. He said, “I have been working in Abu Dhabi for the last four years. I have come home to appear for the IELTS exam and move to Canada and finally the US.”

 

On elections, he said, “Politicians are promising moon these days but none of them have come up with any agenda to address unemployment and drugs. People in our village are talking about chief minister Charanjit Singh Channi’s welfare measures and SAD-BSP candidate Pawan Kumar Tinu. We will decide between the two.”

At Dalit Dera Sachkhand Ballan, The Wire met three friends – Harpal, Jaspal and Vijay Kumar from Alawalpur and Ballan village of Jalandhar – who said Channi’s performance and the SAD-BSP was a topic of discussion in the villages. “Yes, AAP is in the popular discourse but Dalits have not forgotten how our Guru Ravidass temple was demolished in Delhi. Arvind Kejriwal didn’t do anything to stop it. Recently, a Sikh girl was raped and humiliated publicly, even then Kejriwal’s response was too late and not promising enough. These might sound like non-poll issues but Dalits feel left out when such incidents take place.”

“Channi has improved the lives of not just Dalits but all communities. His decision to reduce the power tariff and petrol-diesel prices, waiving off pending water supply bills, providing jobs and supporting farmers is likely to go in his favour. Also, he stayed overnight at Dera Ballan whereas other politicians just come for photo-ops and spend hardly an hour or two,” they said.

Voters also spoke about how drugs were a major problem in villages. In Chunaini Kalan village of Nawanshahr district, Chaman Lal and his friends Ram Shah and Shekhar said, “Whether it was SAD-BJP or the Congress, drugs continue to ruin lives, houses and marriages. ‘Chitta’ is available across villages but sadly for politicians it is simply a way to seek votes by claiming that they will end it. This is why people are talking about AAP and want to give them a chance. Jhaadu will have an impact.”

For three days, The Wire tracked voters’ moods in the Doaba and Majha region of Punjab. While Doaba has 23 seats, Majha has 25. Doaba accounts for over 32% Dalit votes, which is the highest in the country and a key factor in deciding the fortunes of all political parties.

On the other hand, Punjab’s Majha belt on the Indo-Pak border is home to early Sikhism and also famous as the ‘sword arm of the country’, for sending the maximum number of young people to the armed forces.

On the Jalandhar-Amritsar highway, The Wire met Harnek Singh from Kapurthala’s Jati Ke village and Jagtar Singh from Pandori Golan village of Tarn Taran district, who run a kinnow juice stall. When asked about election issues, both said, “Nasha (drugs). Come to our village and see how youth are neck deep into drugs. This is why they are going abroad. Inflation has also made life difficult. Edible oil prices are at Rs 200 per litre while pulses are above Rs 100 per kg. We are not able to save anything and governments hardly bother.”

At Baba Bakala assembly (reserved) seat of Amritsar, Charanjit Lal, a shopkeeper at Pheruman Chowk, Rayya said, “Congress infighting in our constituency in the past few days has dented its poll prospects. Khadoor Sahib MP Jasbir Singh Dimpa’s brother joined SAD a few days ago, leading to confusion among voters too. Though Congress is in the fight because of CM Channi’s work, AAP has an edge now. While people’s lives have been affected because of drugs, it is nobody’s concern. People want stability and jobs.”

Echoing similar sentiments, a helper at a fruit cart in the same market, Paramjit Singh, said, “I have made up my mind to vote for AAP. What have Congress, SAD-BSP and BJP given us other than compounding our problems? BJP ruined us with demonetisation while Congress failed to provide anything worthwhile during Amarinder Singh’s tenure. Congress brought Channi eyeing assembly polls only. But people will not be fooled this time.”

A few kilometres ahead, at the Jandiala Guru (reserve) assembly seat, an elderly Bhupinder Singh mentioned how both his daughters-in-law, despite having good qualifications, were sitting idle at home. “Then people talk about why the youth are moving abroad. There is hardly any youth left here. Everybody is rushing abroad for employment. Another big reason behind this trend is the communal divide in the country. There is a sense of insecurity among people, particularly youth. Look at this hijab issue in Karnataka. People want jobs, a good life, not Hindu-Muslim divide. We are followers of Guru Nanak Dev and it hurts to see how the country’s harmony was being disturbed,” he said...

The Wire also met some voters from Batala on the Amritsar-Batala highway, who shared how the once flourishing industrial town is on the decline and nearly forgotten. Ramesh Kumar, a shopkeeper, said, “Batala used to be the hub of iron, casting and agricultural inputs industry. Over the years, it has seen a total fall. People need jobs and the governments are not even interested in saving the existing industry.” 

 

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