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Congratulations to him, his wife family and all the Sikh kaum. Jagmeet Singh continues to do us proud6 points
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All the people who are complaining about him marrying a non-amritdhari really need to go do something else with their time3 points
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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Have you ever wondered what the law for wearing a Kirpaan in your country is? Well now there is a online tool that shows you for free of charge! You can use it to find legislation and laws regarding the Kirpaan. The app will allow you to search for local or regional legislation. Different rules for neighbouring countries can often be confusing, as a community we can rely on this tool which clarifies laws and legislation. Visit the website https://www.Kirpaan.com and let us know us know how you fared Is your town, city or country missing from the list? Did you spot an error or have an idea on how we can improve the service?’ Contact us on either facebook.com/Kirpaanapp / twitter.com/Kirpaanapp / info@Kirpaan.com Please share so we can help spread the knowledge and help fellow Sikhs who may face trouble whilst carrying a Kirpaan For the Sangat by the Sangat3 points
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Why would anyone agree to marry someone without even speaking to them? Punjab is not stuck in the middle ages and people are in someways a lot more forward than us in the west. This whole story sounds like a mix of Big Tera's pathela which is usually full of goat meat, masala and mircha LOL. Actually no, it sounds more like what his pathela of goat meat turns into once hes eaten it all....3 points
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I think you're an A class twat. Thus, go fcuk urself. Do you not have a sister of your own? Let some c*nt do that to her and then come back here and let us know3 points
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Why didnt u speak to the girl? You know how risky marriagea are in india. All.this trouble could have been avoided if u had been more responsible and mature before.3 points
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The report author invited all of those convicted to be interviewed in his review. Only one agreed. "There was a complete lack of remorse," said Mr Spicer, who cannot identify which abuser he interviewed. "In fact he didn't accept that he'd done anything wrong... He felt the victims were responsible for their own abuse." The report continued: "If convicted for rape in his home country, he would be beheaded or buried up to the neck and stoned. "He was asked about what he thought about the United Kingdom and influences in his education. "He said you can get anything here - any sex, drugs, alcohol. There is no control. He spoke in a derogatory way about lack of morals in British girls and did not go with Muslim girls because there are not many of them." This review was unable to establish a true understanding of the offending carried out by perpetrators. https://news.sky.com/story/newcastle-gangs-abused-adults-and-children-with-arrogant-persistence-review-finds-112632012 points
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I think you are too busy being a first class privileged ish , It is not a small matter to just drop a girl after getting engaged . The sikh attitude is do not enter engagement unless you are deffo getting married because you are playing with the other's family's honour and standing. If you had doubts to clear you should not have done Rokna or Shagun . Somebody recommends fine, check it out for your self ...a bit like when you are driving and your passenger says 'it's clear to go' you don't go on their word as you know in an accident you will be held responsible , you make sure it is clear for yourself. I know some folks can be pushy but you are a guy and can easily say stop at an earlier stage ... I don't understand why you didn't it seems bizarre to me . We are living in the 21st century not the 1800s you can talk on your own with the girl nobody will object. Anyway water under the bridge and all that .2 points
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That's actually not true, bro. More children usually means more religious children. For one thing, in large families, each individual child has less pull on the head of the family. The head is more respected, and therefore the children obey more. They learn that they are not the be all and end all. That there is someone above them. Why would you want to teach them individually? It is considered more effective to teach people as a group. Guru Sahibs call this concept Sangat. Humans are social animals, and the more people that follow a certain thing, the more firm they are likely to be in that belief. Furthermore, in a typical two-child family, there's one girl, one boy. Each has new clothes and other stuff for every year of their life. They get an entitled mentality. A single child is the apex of entitlement mentality. In large families, clothes and other items get handed down. Both the giver and receiver learn to decrease their moh-maya and haumai regarding material things. And that's the basis of religion.2 points
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Can't the condition on her hands be treated by medical help? If your really don't feel you can marry her then its best to speak up now and tell everyone before its too late. I have had distant relatives who have broken engagements its not nice and is stressful but is way better than marrying someone you know you cant be happy with long term and divorcing later on which is a much bigger deal and far more stressful on both families. Also If i was you I would take the blame for not wanting to marry and not blame the girl. Cos then you will probably end up offending her and their relatives and it could get messy.2 points
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The link is static on the sgpc site. It may auto update. If not I will, or anyone please, update it daily.1 point
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Seriously, get over it. Tuhanu ki mil da baar baar ohi cheej kehn naal. Up to what point are you gonna scrutinise the guy? Ehni commentary karni vi maari gal ah. Give the guy a break man.1 point
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What is Freedom? What Does It Mean to be Truly Free? It is a natural tendency of every human being to want to be free. Freedom is not luxury, it is a necessity. Not just human beings, but even animals want freedom. Babies want freedom. If you tie a scarf on the neck of a baby, it just wants to remove it. You put a chain on a baby’s neck and the baby will want to pull it out. It is the adults who put jewelry around their neck, but children want freedom, they don’t want any restriction. That is why they throw their hands up and down… free! Wanting freedom is innate to human beings as well as animals. Every life wants freedom, and liberation or moksha is nothing but freedom. Freedom is a natural desire in every human being but when the mind gets so muddled up in unnecessary day to day things, it forgets that it wants freedom. It is as good as someone who wants to sleep but has forgotten how to sleep. Freedom is not running away from situations and circumstance. Sometimes a situation is stifling or unpleasant, and we run away from it and think this is what freedom is, but that is not so. Freedom means: Being unphased by circumstances, situations and the people around you Being free from your own emotional garbage Being free from the jungle of your thoughts that bother you Being free from all the entanglement that you harbor in your head Being free from fear and anxiety Anything that stifles you and makes you feel small, being free from that is what freedom is. How to move towards freedom? Let go of cravings and aversions Whether you accept it or not, watch it or not, life is an act of letting go. It started the moment you were born. You let go of the womb and came into this world. As soon as you came here, you started breathing in and breathing out and you are taking food in and letting it out. It is a constant exchange. You cannot hold on to anything here. As a child you were holding onto many toys, and as you grew up, you let go of all those toys. Are you still holding on to your little toys and bells? No! As you grow older, you obviously let go of many things. Similarly, let go of cravings and aversion. When you feel free from all the cravings and aversions, that is freedom. Meditate Meditation is food for the soul, it nurtures the core of your existence. It keeps you physically fit, healthy and mentally focused. Intellectually, it brings you sharpness, keenness of attention, awareness and observation. Emotionally, you feel lighter, softer and purer and you feel able to let go of the past garbage. It creates positive vibrations around you, influencing your behavior with others, and others behavior towards you. There is nothing better than meditation to bring calmness to the mind! Reduce your wants If you want freedom, your wants should be minimum. Minimum wants will give you more freedom. If the wants are too many, they go on and on and on. Now, when the wants arise in you, what do you do? You can't keep on wanting things. This is where wisdom comes to help. See life with a bigger context. Develop a sense of contentment When the mind is not stuck in desires of either respect, money, position, and the mind goes beyond these things, then you can say you are free. Before you let go of the body, if a point comes when you are so fulfilled, and you are ready to let go of everything – that is the infinite freedom that you experience. You need not even physically let go of things. It may not be possible practically to let go of everything but at least in the mind if you let go of everything, you will find there is enormous freedom, and lots of happiness and connectivity towards everything will come. Have Faith One very important thing we need is the faith that only the right thing will happen! There is a great power in the universe that has maintained this universe from billions of years. Have faith in that power. It will take care.1 point
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Another way to look at that is he didn't touch the ground with it on purpose.1 point
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Just examine why your spirits go down ? More often than not, it is because somebody said something stupid to you. And why did they say a stupid thing? Because they had some garbage and they needed to throw it out; and you were there, ready to catch it. And once you have caught it, you hold on to it so passionately. Wake up don´t let your smile be snatched away by anybody KEEP GROWING ALWAYS If you’ll keep thanking God in advance, then get ready. God is going to show out in your life. He’s going to take you where you could not go on your own, open doors that no man can shut, connect you to the right people. He’s going to restore what you thought was over and done. It’s going to happen suddenly, unexpectedly.1 point
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I remember when jagmeet Singh was cycling to work and people were praising him for keeping things simple and not destroying the environment by driving a car. I guess that was an act as well. Flying out to a different country when he could have had his wedding in his province is not being simple and not good for the environment. And for all those claiming maybe before the wedding his not amritdhari confused Punjabi wife would take Amrit were living in dream world. When people get power, they abuse that power to fulfill their wants. They don't care about the big picture, the Khalsa Panth teachings. An amritdhari man should have enough guts in him to tell his future wife to follow the Guru or this worldly relationship will end. His wife decision to be fashionable over properly covering her head before Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is very arrogant. It shows the level of respect she has for Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. People in power are the most arrogant people. I wonder what Sri Akal Takht sahib will say if they look into where this wedding was conducted. It has been recognized by Sri Akal Takht sahib to not have an Anand Karaj on the beach. From the picture it looks as the Anand karaj was done on the beach. People in power think they are above the law of Gurmat. Such behavior shown is basically a big middle finger to the Nirmal Panth started by Sri Guru Nanak dev ji. Disregard for Gurmat shows no respect for the shaheeds of 1984 because they lived and died to uphold Gurmat. But what do I know. I'm not in a position of power, just shut up and let the arrogant people run a muck of very thing good and pure.1 point
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Let me try to deconstruct whats happening, again its nothing but self inflicted wound which could have been avoided, its about time sikh mp who invited him took the blame- which he did wholeheartedly instead of passing the buck. Yeah No, he is equally responsible along with rcmp and csis for canadian gov't mockery infront of canadian and indian media and international stage and sabotaging new relationship with india which other five sikhs mps and prime minister tried so hard to change the narrative. 1. This individual - atwal is been in photo-ops with other liberal mps too in the past, he has been lurking around. He was sikh convicted attempted murder that should have been raised many eye brows within liberal caucas and sikhs liberal. Sikhs and others within liberal party have no problem hanging around this guy due to money/lobbying this create a loose end an loophole for GOI to exploit who issued visa few months ago and india media to exploit which they did very very successfully. Our incompetent CSIS and RCMP who couldn't weed this guy out. I don't know what CSIS and RCMP do all day instead of being incompetent can't find GOI influence issuing visa, screwing up billion dollar trade deal with india and start a new chapter. 2. This changes everything in terms of public opinion, fair trade deal with india as this incident is optics nightmare, now india has upper hand, deal will be on their terms- which means bad deal, more witch haunt on sikhs by media-conservatives will be pounding liberals and warm relationship will be issue in the election. Thanks to our sikh mp-randeep sarai, other liberal mps, incompetent csis, rcmp. 3. Off course, politicians attending parade and gurdwara where talvinder parmar poster- another sikh terrorist/mass murderer (declared by canadian supreme court judge-who in the same breath acquitted bagri and malik)/goi agent (as shown in soft target) is bought up as it should, its about time record is set straight by liberal party including sikhs mps with one position they do condemn the poster of parmar, this means few things in future- gov't may cut funding/subsidies to gurdwara who has poster of parmar and also no gov't offical will be going to parade where his poster is displayed. Good on them, its about time someone stood up against whole sikh image gets hijacked by some arbitrary questionable person poster and by his tribal followers, they definitely don't speak for me, world sikh organization of canada nor sikh liberal mps-liberal party of canada, canadian gov't.. Off course everyone has a right to freedom of expression. But if you are expecting gov't funding or expecting sikh liberal mps to come to you you can no longer complain if things are not met due to your position on parmar poster. 4. It be interesting how things unfold in vaishakhi parade, i like to see harjit sajjan - respected by all sikhs, wider Canadians to be fore front as liason mp between canadian gov't and sikh gurdwaras committee members to think outside of box and see bigger picture.1 point
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Who was asking about reconciling a broken engagement? Please tell me someone other than the op of this thread? Twice would be so brutal.1 point
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So you think this is jokem Shows the age of your brain. Which is probably still in single units.1 point
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Ooo I take it you do have a sister then ey?! Do let us know how it goes1 point
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Go <banned word filter activated> your mum. you son of a <banned word filter activated>.1 point
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going back to the main question. Is breaking off marriage after the shagun(engagement) common in india?1 point
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I'm pretty traditional compared to many but still spoke to girls when I was looking. You're a throwback to the pre 60s which I admire but then you also have to live with the decision like they did in the past and not run for the hills.1 point
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There more to it then the skin problem. I did not even get a chance to speak to the girl. I just went on family recommendation. Hence now I think I made a mistake. I have taken a gamble on something. Why should I risk everything just to please everyone else. I have seen people who divorce which is alot worse.1 point
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You are trying to change the issue. You already had ample time to say no, but you waited all this time and made a rush decision that will affect your life for years. Furthermore, the excuse that you make up is just rediculous. I agree that you should abort the marriage, not for your sake, but for the Girls sake because she doesn’t deserve someone like you.1 point
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So you think its best to not pick up a girl from india. And end the marriage. thus destroying the girls life. instead of ending it at the engagement stage?1 point
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Is this is a follow up question from what you posted on Saturday concerning divorce? You're screwed either way now.1 point
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So it sounds you’re not ready for this marriage. I honestly don’t know what to say, but things do happen quickly after the shagun in India, as you’re visiting from abroad and time is limited. How did the families arrange it so quick ? Booking venue, caterers buying outfits, etc. You need about a few days to do all that, not like overnight ?.1 point
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As long as you are not being forced into getting married quickly, then just say you need to think about it, and don't want to get married yet or want to go uk first. don;t get forced!!!1 point
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You my friend are an utter fudu of the highest order. I don't know whether to take you seriously or not. Its tw*ts like you who give the rest of us a bad name. FU.1 point
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do ardas for others sure you invest your precious pall and your kamai ... if you are not nitnemi it can affect you badly ...else it's just a choice. Why do I have to honour someone who's basically getting paid through public taxes and lives in state owned palace and has the majority of her family and bills paid for by the poor while she swans around ? She is servant of the machinery. if you really have a lot of kamai to spend I can think of more deserving people such as the 111 girls kidnapped by Boko Haram , the victims of 1984, The shaheed singhs parivaars, the singhnian who are looking after all those abandoned girls in Punjab , Jaggi and the Singh Qaidi.1 point
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basically if you think about it you are doing an ardas for the queen everytime you do , so would you want to use your kamai that way ?1 point
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Bhai Jeevan Singh ji was also asked about Khalistan at a rally and his reply was ditto of Sant Ji , he said khalistan khalistan di gal kardo ho, pehle Khalsa banno Khalistan apne app bann ju gi1 point
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I can recall a speech by Sant Jarnail Khalsa Bhindranwale where he refers to Singhs asking him a question “Sant Ji when will Khalistan be made?” Sant ji says “Khalistan will be made when all Sikhs become Khalse” This is a simple reply but the logic in the bachan makes complete sense. You can see Indra understood this as it is evident with Amritdhari Sikhs being hunted after Bluestar. You can still see this now as the Government of India have used all sorts of tactics to insure Sikh youth in Punjab discard Sikhi in favour of a secular lifestyle. Our Sikh institutions including SGPC have failed to take Sikhi to the youth. Even Sikh diaspora have failed to work on this in the villages of Punjab. I recall hearing about the number of Sikhs taking Amrit during the time of Sant Jarnail Singh Ji at Darbar Sahib. The figure was 4000 every week and the figures now are now post 84 at best 4000 a year. In fact there is no longer a weekly Amrit Sanchar at Darbar Sahib. Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa bhindranwale has given us the bachan and the key to unlock Khalistan is with increasing the numbers of Khalse.1 point
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I would hazard a guess the contributors to SGGS Ji assumed -- to co-opt an American phrase -- that some truths are self-evident. I would think an examination of the spirit of the discourse in SGGS Ji can be extrapolated to other less defined areas of human conduct that aren't as explicitly defined in scripture.1 point
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Alot of ppl use that 80% rule to prove we are like animals. In that one male has many females. And some males have nothing. Instead of reminding me of animals, it seems to point more to muslims. One man with his harems. And they did bride price, so only rich males can afford wives. So the rest go on slave hunts. This alpha male and his harem are not the only model found in nature. Some animals mate for life. Some mate then go different ways. Then mate with other partners. This modern day tendancy to use evolution (meaning how humans were before they were humans ie when they were a non intelligent species) or how animals live there life to live ours Is very stupid. Paleo ppl with their diet and now ppl looking for solution to marriage and everything else from evolution is dumb. We evolved from there. Meaning changed for the better. But of course ancient culture should be followed.. and our biology and our natural instincts which women do have different then men. But most ancient cultures exalted monogamy and studies show that children do better in household with both mom and dad. And married couples are happier when elderly. So yes monagamy is better for men and women. About that 80% statistic. It could be due to war, famine, invading hordes, rape. Also most invading ppl would kill all the men 15 years and older. And keep the women. Cant that explain the 80% rule? As the invaders were the 20% who controled 80% of the women. In a famine, more females are born then men. As females can defininately reproduce but men are a risk from natures pov.In war most young men die leaving behind many women. This statistic only had to skew once. Then cant be rectified. So maybe it changed after Mahabharat. Or Fall of Troy? Or black death? As women safer at home men getting sicker? Or maybe in the past each generation, more and more men weeded out due to wars and famine?1 point
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Lesson from a mud pot ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ?Good morning? "How strange is the logic of our mind, We look for compromise when we are wrong, & we look for justice when others are wrong..."1 point
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how is important is height in terms of finding a marriage partner. I have seen some ristas. One of them I was happy with. The only thing was the height factor. She was exactly 5 feet tall. Not only that she had a slight build and was very thin. I am average height 5.10. I have always been encouraged to find a tall girl for marriage. But is that very important? My main concern although she was very pretty is that being very short and petite it did not make her appear healthy. Also was worried if that may affect her fertility being on the thin and short side. I dont mind short girls. up to about 5 ft 2 and above. But is 5ft to small? Anyone got and advice when it comes to height. Or is height not that important and its the personality that counts. Incidentally she had a smiley and fun type personality. I found the taller girls more laid back and serious types.1 point
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Bhai Gurdas ji is not wrong. Your interpretation of Bhai Gurdas Ji Vaar is wrong. In the Taksal Sampooran Rehras Sahib, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji says the following: Chopei Mai ‘N’ ganays(i) pritham manaaoo(n)| kisan bisan kabhoo(n) neh dhiaaoo(n) I do not praise or hail Ganesh before I start any task. (In old times, often Ganesh would be hailed before starting any task). Nor do I let the thought of Vishnu or any incarnations of Vishnu (i.e. Krishna) enter my mind. (Meaning Guru Gobind Singh Ji never regarded Vishnu or any avatars as the supreme Lord; Akaal purakh, as he states next.) Kaan sunay pahichaan ‘N’ thin so| liv laagee more pag in so I know of their existence, but I do not ever worship them. May my prayers and thoughts always be in the immaculate, holy feet of the Lord (the one and only). In the above Bani of Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji we can see how Guru Sahib is saying, he does not even have a thought (does not praise) of Vishnu and his incarnations enter his mind. If Vishnu and Krishna were Satguru, then why doesn't Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji even think of them when praising Vaheguru? Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji says, I know of there existence but I do not worship them and I am attached to the Lord's feet. Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji praises and thinks and worships the nine Gurus before him as we see in Bachittar Natak as stated in our Khalsa Panth daily ardas; from Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji to Sri Guru Teg Bahadur ji.1 point
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you are not meant to show disrespect to the boon of kirpaan ...as it is the aan bestowed by Guru ji's Kirpa . Also it representative of Waheguru ji's justice should be held aloft . What he's missed too many arm days at the gym to cope? Simaranjit Singh Mann is over 70 and he manages ...0 points
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not complaining but noting that he has chosen to excuse his wife from the expected rehit thus fallen from his own.0 points
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Agree with what your saying, Sant ji was and always be the head figure in the sangaarsh, however how do you mean Khalistan will be established in canada? canada isnt gona give its land as khalistan? also none of our ithiasiq gurdwara sahibs are there.0 points
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basically if you think about it you are doing an ardas for the queen everytime you do , so would you want to use your kamai that way ? You only have a fixed amount of "ardaas money" that gets spent up every time you do an ardaas? Where did you hear that? Anyways, if you don't want to honor the Queen, you should move to a country that has nothing to do with the Crown, such as America.0 points