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@ADMIN @S1ngh Its a good thread, would be good to pin it. Bhul Chuk Maf ?

I found a good blog which is a english steek/Tika of Vairag Shatak. And it is all in English. I request the entire sangat to check it out. No money just free. http://mokhamsingh.blogspot.com/2010/08/vairag-shatak-raja-bharthari-lived-in.html?m=1

Good initiative this should have been done back in 1947 to create a modern trained up defence force of 100,000 Sikh commando troops purely for the protection of Sikhs and Sikh religious institutions throughout india. And it will take at least 100,000 Sikh troops to ensure the minimum protection and defence of Sikh life and property in India along with all the logistics you will need to cater for such a force. RSS can raise an army of 500,000 within 3 days if they need to with access to modern weaponry via the indian army. So that's the situation that we need to understand. That 2,000 number is a start but way too inadequate and would only be useful to protect a small city from thugs not against an army under federal control who RSS have covert command and influence of.

Could there be a possible link to why bill gates, ambani and other rich billionaires are trying to buy vast farm land? Bill gates has been successful in aquiring vast amounts of farm land in america just recently. Ambani plans to doe the same in india hence the huge protests and push back by small farmers. The UN agenda 21 and 2030 claims for a sustainable future things will need to be done differently. Is this all part of the agenda? That the UN other bodies are involved in trying to oppress the common man across the word

http://chng.it/bQLmKxkNcV We want the Akal Takht to 1. Assemble a temporary security force of 2000 Sikhs and send them to Delhi to secure the safety all protesters from attacks by the BJP and its Police Force and 2. Institute a permanent Akall Takht Security/Reilief Force to defend the weak, hungry and downtrodden. We demand the Akaal Takht Chief Giani Harpreet Singh to pick up the baton from Baba Deep Singh and Akali Phulla Singh and serve the Sikh mission from the front as his predessors did or stand aside for some that will accept this mandate. This week we have all seen scenes of terror in Delhi, the state (police) and BJP/RSS thugs have colluded to perpetrate a reign of terror and violence on protesting farmers in the Indian capital. It is no coincidence that it is Sikhs that have been subjected to the targeted violence, it is not overreaching to call this a racist act of state terrorism. Whenever minorities have stood up for their rights in India successive governments of India have used all diabolical means to vilify innocent citizens using their corrupt state sponsored media, they have tortured, raped and murdered Indian citizens belonging to minorities with impunity, this story has repeated over and over again since the inception of the ‘Republic of India’ in 1947. Minorities and decent Indians from majority communities have been attending protest rallies, signing petitions and begging foreign powers to intervene for decades and this has had no affect and current events demonstrate the cycle will not stop unless we take steps to stop it ourselves. Foreign powers including the UN will not intervene, their silence, inaction and welcoming the Indian terrorist regime into the UN inner circle is evidence of their consent. This week: 1. Delhi Police disrupted the pre-agreed Tractor Rally by blocking agreed routes and then attacked protesting citizens with tear gas, lathis and on at least two occasions with bullets to try and cause riots to provoke violence from peaceful protesters, this largely failed. 2. The Godi Media then selectively used video footage to misrepresent facts and label protesters as the cause of confrontation to malign the cause and minorities. 3. BJP and Police then transported in thugs from across the state to camps at Singhu and Tikri border where there were only largely old Sikh men and women and defenceless sewadars after most jawan protesters returned to their villages to tend to their domestic responsibilities following the tractor rally on the 26th Jan. These thugs and police began throwing stones at men, women and children and tearing down tents with elderly resting inside to try and provoke a blood bath. When the protesting citizens showed constraint in the hope the some among the police would do their duty and protect them, the police did nothing of the sort, on contrary the police and the BJP thugs turned even more violent and began attacking protesters indiscriminately. When a few jawans tried in vain to protect themselves and others, they were mercilessly beaten by the police and BJP thugs. The Godi media although present and capturing these scenes, gave another narrative; that these were "locals” and the police were trying their best to maintain order but were overwhelmed mostly by the violent protesters", the lies are ghastly and embarrassing since the truth is quickly discovered by images widely available on the net and social media. Not one of the thugs perpetrating the violence was arrested – why would they have been the police were complicit afterall. Not one comment of condemnation from the government, not one comment of concern from police leaders, again why would they organised it. When the victims have gone to the police or CBI to submit complaints they have been given the cold shoulder or ridiculed, when family member have asked for updates on the hundreds of Sikh protesters that were arrested; some of who were badly beaten – they get nothing but a ‘we don’t know’. There are hundreds of photos and videos of the police and BJP thugs jointly attacking protesters and damaging private property in the public domain, the police are not even attempting to hide their illegal acts against the Sikh minority; who are the real enemies of state and terrorists? Where is the humanity of those in power and police leaders? There have been a few isolated videos captured of policemen saying they are just doing their duty by following orders, but I’m sorry you are doing anything but your duty. You are breaking the law, desecrating the Indian constitution and most basic of human rights. 4. Punjab Police is co-operating with Delhi Police forces despatched to Punjab to intimidate and arrest Punjabi citizens that have demonstrated their constitutional right to protest. At the same time Captain Amrinder Singh puts out statements that he supports the farmers, yet then instructs his Police force to support the BJP despatched Delhi Police to in their attempt to spread fear amongst Punjabi farmers. 5. On 29th Jan Delhi Police and BJP thugs protested outside the Sri Sis Ganj Gurdwara in Delhi, what has the gurdwara goers here got to do with the protest other than sharing same faith, this is evidence of racism on part of the police and BJP. That aside the Gurdwara is built on the site where Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji was beheaded to protect the Hindu faith from conversion by Mughals, the BJP respect nothing and nobody. This is not the first gurdwara to be attacked by fascist factions of the majority community. Gurdwara Gian Godri in Haridwar, Gurdwara Mangu Mutt in Puri and Gurdwara Dangmar in Sikkim are Gurdware associated with Guru Nanak Dev Ji that have been attacked or demolished by Indian Facists, we cannot and should not expect anybody but ourselves to protect ourselves. The response from the Sikh leadership to these attacks were nothing but a few words in the media or despatching representatives to the sites to write reports or appeal for better treatment. We Sikhs are loyal subjects of India; we gave more blood than anyone to create this great nation and continue to do so at the borders. Our Gurughars as are our hearts are open to everybody, feeding the world is one of our key missions in life, and still you treat us worse then you treat stray dogs. But we are not cowards and we know how to defend the weak, our Gurus and great leaders of years gone by have given us lessons on what to do when a great tyranny bears down on the poor and meek. Our gurus gave us the two swords of Miri and Piri to defend the rights of the downtrodden and to fight evil. Our 1st Patshah taught us all humans are equal in the eyes of our lord, the 5th Patshah gave us unwavering strength in the face of great oppression and the gift of martyrdom, the 6th Patshah the malik of the two swords of Miri and Piri taught us self-defence and bestowed upon every peasant sovereignty so that we never accept the dictates of barbaric regimes such as the current one, they also gave us the Akal Takht, a temporal high seat for Sikhs to organise ourselves under as a nation, the 9th Patshah taught us to sacrifice our heads for others rights, our Dasam Patshah taught each of us to stand and fight to the last man even if there 125,000 blood thirsty terrorists ahead of each of us. Unfortunately, in modern times the so-called leaders of our great institutions of the Khalsa have become subservient to their political paymasters, the paymasters who appoint and brush aside leaders of Sikh sansthas at will. But now in the face of great tyranny the Khalsa must awaken and show our Guru we are alive, breathing and not forgotten their lessons. The Badal Dal appointed Mukh Sewadar of the Akal Takht now has the opportunity to legitimise his claim as Jathedar of the Akal Takht, that seat that belonged to great Sikhs and generals such as Baba Deep Singh and Akali Phulla Singh, he must do as they would and give a direct response to the darkness of this regime. A meek statement here or there will not cut it. Your Mandate: As an urgent and temporary response the Guru Roop Khalsa demand you to assemble and employ a temporary security force of 2000 saint soldiers and deploy them to defend the honour of our quam by guarding the protest camps from further attacks and atrocities at the hands of the Delhi hakumat. Further to this we mandate you to institute a 500 strong full-time employed security/relief force to work under instruction of Akal Takht to stand in defiance to any future acts of terror, to provide relief in events of natural disasters, to the poor and downtrodden across the nation and protect Gurughars from attack, after all this is part of the Khalsa mission. At the moment you are doing nothing to justify your seat at the Great Akal Takht; as said before half-hearted comments you are making are not enough, you have access to all the power and resources of the Khalsa Panth; use them to protect and progress the Sikh Mission. The Akal Takht relief/security force (ATSRF) must be physically and mentally strong, live and breathe gurmat and be both elite men and women recruited from across the globe. These warriors must be organised into specialist disciplines as any elite security force would i.e. engineer, medics, cooks, martial arts, logistics, IT, strategy and conflict management etc and be educated at the best training centres in the world. The Akal Takht SRF must be humble, disciplined Gursikhs that have no ambitions for power or to increase personal property but only but only to serve the Gurus mission, a charter would be written for the SRF to live and adhere to. Sikhs from across the world will aspire to join this security force; only then will we get back on the road to producing the next Akali Phulla Singh. There will be 500 paid specialists and no doubt lakhs will volunteer to support. The inception of the Akal Takht security/relief force is not an act of provocation or challenge to the central government for power; all power belongs to Akal Purakh. ATSRF’s mission would be that mandated by Guru Nanak Dev Ji; feed the hungry, defend the downtrodden. It will be a thorn in the side of a tyrant and an asset to any just and progressive regime We have been betrayed far too often by the central government, its police, its army and by our own leaders. Yet you keep making limp appeals pleading for the government to reason. No more! Lions do not beg! Act on this instruction or move aside for another more worthy to initiate this mandate – remember the Akal Takht does not answer to the SGPC cronies or Badal Dal, Akal Takht is only answerable to Akal Purakh and SGGSJI following which the Guru Roop Khalsa Panth. Benti to all Sikhs please support this petition as a declaration of your will, no honest Sikh will ever see this mandate anything other than an attempt to promote the Sikh mission, we have been left with no alternative. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

We're seen as cannon fodder. As soon as we demand some rights we're labelled terrorists and separatists.

why would it be a anti-semetic? ? And trust your leaders they want the best for us? If only that was true, chance would be a fine thing!

Historically, Singhs would marry Hindu women

Don't be an anti-Semetic conspiracy theorist. Trust your leaders and politicians. They want the best for us. ?

@MokhamSingh did the blog so Thank you for the seva may Mahraj keep u in chardikala.

Well said. We either have a comrade bias on here or some very naive sangat. I'm shocked how easily our own can get brainwashed by social media. I think the video below sums up things up well Giani Hapreet Singh (Akal Takhat Jathedar) also gave his verdict on the situation recently which explained things that are going on. I'll try and find again. End of the day we need Ekta now. Everyone to reunite. The Kisaan leaders handled this poorly.

Ps Yes reinforcements is exactly what are needed, the Sikhs at tikri n singhu border are sitting ducks and under attack. Its no laughing matter.

More than likely it will do nothing other than remind people of the responsibility of the institutions our gurus created. Akal Takht is our Pentagon, our Whitehouse and our Senate. ...Or lets all just let the clowns sitting in the house that guru hargobind ji built carry on milking it without even feeling besharam. Giani Harpreet Singh is in the seat of the likes of Akali Phulla Singh, generals that led from the front. Great Sikh Martyrs. Those that dont know that need telling and those that have forgotten need reminding in the hope that our institutions built by our gurus reclaim their glory one day. Raaj karega Khalsa one day brother and dont you forget it! The words of Dasam Pita. Ps. Remember to sign and share the petition. Believe in the butterfly effect.

Any chance of a pin?

Sometimes after amritvela sangat abhyaas, chardikala gursikhs say shaheed singhs came and did abhyaas with sangat. Ive heard this many times. Shaheed singhs become pargat normally to abhyasi singhs, as those gursikhs have dib drishti, they can see lok parlok.

Derby Sikh temple knifeman admits to stabbing and burglary charges Mohammed Ibrar's offence was described as a 'hate crime' Scene of an alleged stabbing in Normanton Road A 32-year-old Derby man has admitted to breaking into a Normanton temple before stabbing a man in a shop in what police later confirmed was a hate crime. Mohammed Ibrar pleaded guilty to assault occasioning grievous bodily harm with intent, possessing a knife and burglary when he appeared over videolink from HMP Nottingham for the 15-minute hearing at Derby Crown Court. But he denied the more serious charge of attempted murder saying through a Hindi interprepeter “I did not want to kill him, I was not in a good mental state”. Prosecutor Jonathan Cox said those pleas were acceptable, telling the court both a prosecution and defence psychiatrists had assessed Ibrar since he was remanded following the incident in May 2020. Adjourning the sentence, Judge Jonathan Bennett said: “Mr Ibrar you have pleaded guilty to three of these offences and the prosecution are not going to proceed with the most serious charge of attempted murder. “I am going to sentence you when I have heard both from the prosecution and your own barrister. “On that date I will allow an hour-and-a-half and in the meantime you will be remanded into custody. “Do you understand that?” Ibrar, through the interpreter, replied: “Yes I do.” Ibrar broke into the Guru Arjan Dev Sikh Gurdwara in Stanhope Street on the morning of Monday, May 25. Another call came in minutes later to say that a man had been stabbed inside the Polanica shop, in nearby Normanton Road. On arrival, officers found a 41-year-old man with injuries. The man was taken to the Queen’s Medical Centre for treatment and was later discharged. In a statement released the following day, Chief Superintendent David Cox said: “I know this is a very upsetting incident not only because this is a place of worship but the alleged actions of the individual involved have a wider impact across the community. “I am taking this incident very seriously and I have a team of detectives who are working through the full circumstances of what has taken place. “As this investigation progresses I hope we will gain a clearer understanding of what happened. “This was a challenging incident to respond to with multiple scenes and multiple calls for service within minutes. I would like to thank those members of the community who assisted the police yesterday. “This is being treated as a hate crime.” In the days following the incident, the Sikh and Muslim communities in Derby issued a statement of solidarity. A post put up on the Derby Jamia Mosque Facebook page said both faiths “condemned the senseless acts without reservation”. It read: “On Monday, May 25, 2020, Guru Arjan Dev Ji Gurdwara was attacked by an individual who caused extensive damage to the windows and doors. “We, the undersigned representatives of the main Muslim and Sikh communities, condemn this senseless act without reservation. “Desecration of places of worship is unacceptable and can never be justified nor condoned. The Muslim and Sikh communities have been living together in Derby in peace and harmony for many years. “These types of senseless acts will not separate us. The actions of individuals do not represent our communities. “ The statement was signed by the Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji Gurdwara; Derby Jamia Mosque; Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara; Islamic Centre; Al-Farooq Masjid; Guru Ravidass Gurdwara; Pakistan Community Centre; Ramgharia Sabha Gurdwara and the Indian Community Centre. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/derby-sikh-temple-knifeman-admits-4935332

It's unfortunate that Sikhs are portrayed as India's military "face" but we also seem to delight in this role that's been carved out for us by the Indians. This probably has some vague bearing on these types of issues in part. Perceptions on the part of external communities about our loyalties.

‘Word of mouth’ in the billionaire community?

What if it had been other way around- would this have been bigger news?

These guys are very clever and know how to use and abuse the system. He used the "mental instability" tactic to get off lightly. Is there an appeal to the decision or have the parties involved accepted the decision?

https://www.boomlive.in/politics/farmers-protests-anti-sikh-tweets-twitter-republic-day-tractor-rally-hate-speech-violence-delhi-khalistan-rhetoric-1984-riots-11761?infinitescroll=1 I wonder if twitter and instagram will act against explicit threats of terrorism and extreme violence against Sikh communities especially religious minorities. They seem to take down legitimate journalist Sikh social media accounts at the behest of the corrupt indian terrorist establishment recently yet strangely that same indian establishment that claims to be a democracy and treat everyone equally under the constitution has not spoken out against or taken action against RSS hindu extremist terrorists and their open support to genocide Sikhs just because a few Sikhs happened to put their flags on top of laal killa without taking the main indian national flag down that was still allowed to stand flying. People used to say it was RSS that did the genocide in 1984 not just congress party, that RSS had the resources and the manpower to murder people in such a short time like they did in Gujarat in 2002 against muslims. It is a known fact that some RSS workers in 1984 were caught who actively took part in murdering innocent Sikh civilians blending in with congress workers because RSS the Hindu terror org is active in all political parties and all institutions of the indian Union.

The hindu rastha / akhand bharat uthopia that these far right extremists are looking to create is essentially based on the racist / caste system with small number of priestly class elites (brahmins and kyshastriya's) at the top oppressing the lower caste masses. Don't think many "lower caste Hindu's" will be rushing to sign up for such an idea nor will pakistani or Bangladeshi's want to join if they don't see any benefits for themselves. And in order to create such a society they will need to do it by force not by persuasion and reason as no man is going to sign away his life and liberty for subjugation by another based on his caste. The RSS lot openly admit their goals in their Instagram, twitter and other social media posts. Yet ironically they try to hoodwink and call for hindu unity from the lower castes to join them in their agenda against minorities. During the recent years bheem sena (lower castes) vs karti sena (brahmin) clashes they showed that they do not care about hindu unity but brahmin/kshastriya supremacy. They promote the krishna philosophy which dictates that brahmin is above everyone in society (as they are given authority by their hindu god krishna) and must be listened to and served as masters over the other 3 castes. They are justify genocides of anyone who opposes their ideology pointing towards krishna how he ordered the genocide of relatives of arjuna on the battlefields in Mahabharata. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6GbhnLhMbA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsuKq1IMxOc

21st century will be full of recessions and depressions. People are going to leave cities and relocate to rural areas. Our economy, environment and energy r in bad shape. Farming will be quite beneficial in the coming years. The rich billionaires hv much more inside information compared to a common man and that's why they r investing in farmland.

True but your getting the main point I'm making. Which is buying up huge farm land (ie control of food supply in coming near future and the rise of genetically modified foods). Control the food and financial money supply you basically control the people. If that control is within the hands of a very few rich corrupt criminal class of people then its basically enslavement of humanity on a global scale.

Someone gets it.

Farmlands are very, very expensive to buy. It's cause of the acres of land which comes with it. Harvesting, opening up a farm, herding animals, popping up fairs/ mini market, hiring nights on the zameens for campers and caravans (or trailers) - will be its sources of income. Now, I don't see Bill popping on his farm clothes for the harvesting season anytime soon! So why do rich folks go for farmlands? All I can see is for the reputation and prestige. Only income they will be gaining from it is by renting it out... Atleast they haven't destroyed farms to build factories and supermarkets as of yet.

I personally think Deep Sidhu and other populatist personalities may not be an agent of the indian establishment but is a useful guy thats been manipulated and groomed by those advising him to do certain things that have negatively impacted the situations he was involved in. The whole laal killa thing is suspicious no one has yet provided answers who decided to go there and what were they trying to achieve? We know there's nothing to be achieved going there politically so what and who lead the whole thing? Deep sidhu says he got there much later into the protest at the red fort. Futhermore putting Sikh flags on laal killa is not a bad thing. We like seeing it and its the right of the Sikhs to have their flags on red fort aswell as hindus as they are part of the indian nation that liberated it from colonial british rule. There are many accelerationalists on all kinda of political extreme's and groups that want to push things towards violence while siting back comfortably and watching the drama. These people are the real puppet masters and real agents of manipulation that want to divert the farmer kisaan protests into something else so that legitimate demands that all or most people can support are pushed into something that only certain groups support.

+the Khalsa is a standing army, if a structured leadership was there 100's of thousands would mobilise under it. A highly skilled core of 500 would be able to mobilise the khalsa most effectively.

If u agree with the concept please push the petition. This petition is about reawakening and creating awareness of the correct and most practical purpose of AT. Events in Delhi make it relevant right now...

For the sangat who have trouble understanding Punjabi and only can understand a couple of words (I am like this) SGGS Academy does good simple punjabi Katha. Here is Katha of Nanak Parkash (The Biggest Janamsakhi about Guru Nanak's Life) https://m.soundcloud.com/sggs-academy/sets/katha-sri-nanak-perkash

Here is some katha of Chobis Avtar only Goes up to Ram Avtar though https://m.soundcloud.com/sggs-academy/sets/katha-chaubis-avtar

Also they have Katha of Gurbilas Patshahi 6 https://m.soundcloud.com/sggs-academy/sets/gurbilas-patshahi-6 And Bhai Gurdas Vaar https://m.soundcloud.com/sggs-academy/sets/katha-bhai-gurdas-vaaran-bhai

This shows clear ignorance, racism and sikhphobia not just within the muslim community but also white british dominated institutions who do not understand this was a clear act of terrorism against a religious minority who have nothing to do what the indian government does in Kashmir. In fact majority of Sikhs support the rights of all the oppressed and victimised peoples in kashmir and other places. The uk residing muslim attacker (from pakistan) was armed with a knife, he had political motives as he had written a note indicating he attacked and damaged the gurdwara because of what Modi's hindu nationalist govt's acquiring of kashmir within the indian union and what the indian army was doing in kashmir. The attacker also ended up stabbing some random white polish guy in a shop not too far from the derby gurdwara. So clearly he was out to cause serious harm and injury and luckily that day the gurdwara was closed cos of covid lockdown and there was no sangat there. Usually at that time of the day it would be open with mostly eldery worshippers coming in. It is clear he would have caused serious offences had it been a non-lockdown day. At the time I remember British Sikhs were urging the derby police to investigate this as not a burglary incident but as a terrorism offence as all necessary indications of a political violence leanings was there but because of lazyness and lack of forceful lobbying by Sikh organizations along with institutional racism they put the crime investigation down as a minor burglary offence. British Sikhs organizations and Sikh leaders/influential figures need to start bucking up their idea's if they don't want to be treated as and seen as a joke.

UK is soft touch @GurjantGnostic what would have been the penalty in the USA ?

Listen bro! Bibi Khalaras video is an opinion not fact. The opinion of many at the beginning of the morch was one of being ‘suspicious’. These are just feelings and emotions. Photos of Deep Sidhu with Sunny Deol and BJP leaders is nothing new or too alarming to jump to any conclusions. If yo follow politics you would would know that after ‘Vinod Khanna’ passed the seat for Gurdaspur became vacant. BJP needed a new candidate and Gurdaspur always did well with a celebrity political candidate so Sunny Deol was offered the ticket. Deep Sidhu being a close personal friend of the Deols at the time helped Sunny Deol for his election campaign. The photos with Modi and Amit Shah were obviously going to surface as it was part of the campaign. Had Sunny Deol been given a Congress ticket then photos would have had Captain Amrinder, Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi. These Photos wouldn’t even exist if Sunny Deol was not given the BJP ticket.

People gonna do what they want at the end of the day.

Fitteh mooh, ?

Please share widely, make as much noise about this issue as possible its heart breaking watching the few sikh jawan and many siaane getting picked off by the fanatical rss/bjp supporters and police. The protesters will stay at protest sites until the end, we need to ensure their safety however we can.

It's more than possible. A shardaloo's heart and yearnings are never ignored.

Never heard of shaheed Singhs coming to take a soul, normally for a very chardikala gursikhs panj Singh come to take them. It’s most likely true, as I’m not sure why anyone would lie about that. Also, if he told your friend 15 days and he died exactly 15 days after that, then it’s most likely true.

I don't think an evil entity can present it self as a Shaheed, divine being or Guru ji themselves. Its impossible. Christian's believe a demon or even Satan can appear as a prophet or angel etc and mislead you. I think that's bs. Or maybe it happens to Christians... lol

That's one aspect of the issue I've had a problem with for a while. I think our dependence on Punjabi celebrities speaking up for Panthic issues needs to come to an end. These people are -- and I don't like saying it -- grifters and opportunists who use problems in our community to increase exposure of their "brand." We must really be scraping the barrel for authentic Sikh voices if Jazzy B is our first port of call when someone wants to illustrate how these types of kanjars and entertainers represent the masses. You may argue about songs and such highlighting problems that would otherwise not be heard, BUT we shouldn't be in a place where the only mode of expression for our issues is a throaway folk song. They never want to relinquish their kanjar-puna but seem to think tying a ramaal and growing some stubble (or wearing a chunni that they'd otherwise never touch in their daily life) for a few weeks is enough to hoodwink the Sikh masses into believing they live a life of pious moderation. The tragedgy is the masses DO fall for it. We need better people at the forefront of the movement who LIVE as they PREACH. Nobody is expecting perfection or a pooran brahmgyani, but at least try to aspire to those ideals. You can't talk about saving Sikhi or preventing the erasure of Sikhs and our language when you've gone and married someone who's an atheist, a Christian or a Muslim, and has no intention of perpetuating the next generation of Sikhs. Yes, you CAN have opinions and such, BUT have the humility to allow those who have "walked-the-walk" to take the lead in order to portray the necessary image to the impressionable masses. Unfortunately, people with huge egos are drawn to such movements, and they're more concerned with becoming the next Martin Luther King than actually caring about the nuanced aspects of the deep, long-term issues at hand.

That's a huge problem. All it takes is 6 months of not cutting hair on the face and head, learn to tie a turban, strap a bomb to yourself and walk into a bazaar shouting Bole Soh Nihaal... that's the movement dead in one day. Cue the purges, innocents raped, butchered, and killed in retaliation. It really is as simple as that in India.

F Modi and BJP. They shoulr Die.

Man. I was just thinking about Jaggi bro. Doing Simran. I wonder if he'd feel it if we all did that together? Any thoughts from the Sangat here on what Gurbani, Sakhi or Ithias would say about what can be done for each other?

Sikhism is neither pro or anti marriage. Lavans are a discourse of soul bride and groom GOD.

We are three brothers married to women from Sikh families with similar experiences, mostly negative with these women. Their side of families can come over stay for weeks while when our sides show up attitudes start flying. So I have stopped giving Spiritual meaning to Grasth Jivan. Three similar Sikh women experiences is enough data.

Mentioning Grasth Jivan is same as the insurance I stated. Wives are biased toward their own families while disrespecting husbands. Sikh women are no exception. Also save your Grasth Sermon for someone who cares. Living Life is a bigger experience.

Before laughing read the puratan 100 Sakhi kept in London Museum. Donot Read things which are manipulated by Akalis and SGPC

bachithar natuk is bowt Guru Sahib's life. As for chandi di vaar, we'rall dumbcracks. Next time any1 goes to inia, try to get access to baba deep singh's and bhai mani singh's beerhs (mainly Guru Granth sahib's beerh) to see if there is any um, comtroversial banii cough cough in there. Those are considered to be authentic. Cough, Mala, Cough. Check the original Dasam Granth 2 at Damdama Sahib ithink.