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There are no good days or bad days Just days where there is Bani and and days with no Bani A day without Bani does not feel right That is all

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You're 100% right. Sects absolutely destroyed us. Heck, I'm even trying to overcome my own personal biases because of it. Dal Khalsa was one unified unit with a unified group of people, beliefs, marayada etc. It was one of the reason why things like the Sarbat Khalsa and jathedari worked so well in the past. However, as many of us have seen, these things are so difficult to apply in the current Sikh world due to these jatha loyalties.

You resort to insults when you cannot discuss or argue. Then normally you get schooled and then you go quiet for a while with all the pleasantaries before you start with your barrage of insults. You also pick up a few new words and think you are clever not even knowing what they actually mean. You also mimic other people's writing styles and style of posting. You are void of any authenticity. You play the tough guy act, you are an old man in his 50's trolling and threatening kids. If you met their parents you would get your head kicked in. You would not dare say what you post online to their face. Face it you are a coward in real life, you are no street thug. You are soft middle class Pappu that has fantasies about being some tough guy. But let me say something before you I block you and not bother answering your barrage of BS again Go FU.CK yourself you little bald skinny pot bellied Kenyan Coolie Pappu Duggu piece of Sh1t Give my regards to Simba and Ska Pumbu and all your Disney mates. Goodbye ?

Okay, I understand, if you're being swamped with attention, a broad would probably think the world is her oyster and be very picky - but as we are discussing - this can backfire.

He mentioned she was the one who rejected proposals, not the men. So she chose not to get hitched in her early years.

And top it all off most people in punjab dont even eat rice. It's mostly grown to feed the rest of those states most likely. Literally ruined our future due to that so called revolution.

The Green Revolution was anything but "green" long term. Panjab had far more crop diversity prior, people had enough in their farms and never had to purchase chemical-infested fruit & veg from outside. Villages used to be very self-sustainable. Now, 2 or 3 crops have taken over all of Panjab, especially rice. I don't know why they don't realise Panjab doesn't have the environment nor water to manage it long-term.

This is what they are doing in Canada.

The likes of this useless comedian and their pathetic families have ruined the image of sikhi. Sikhi gave them discipline and how to live their lives with honor but these people ruined everything and now they are nothing in this world. Literally punjabis without sikhi are a useless people.

But they feel proud of themselves by making songs about how great they are and dancing around like clowns. Just look at the songs they release on youtube and how they praise themselves to be the best people on the face of the planet. Literally what a joke. YouTube videos from punjab are full of either people telling other punjabis how to get out of punjab or songs about how great they are. Then they will talk about punjabis taking over the world? literally jokes. Just running all over the world doesnt mean you are going to take over the world.

Our people should have never participated in that green revolution nonsense now we dont even have enough drinkable water. People talk about development when they wont even have drinkable water and good food in the future.

Yes correct. Now she most probably would end up as an old lady with 20 cats.

it's only when modern Sikhs let go of their jatha egoes and start understanding the rehitnamas and itihasic granths, then they will understand the value of da khalsa and what dal khalsa achieved!

Thank god for partition and that we expelled these suls out of our Punjab. Can't believe there are some apne who get teary eyed about there not being a united Punjab anymore. This would have been a regular occurrence

Gives a whole different meaning to "Chakde Singha!" ?

Because Singh as a surname and title has existed for a long time in various South Asian and Southeast Asian communities. Singh or Simha originates from Sanskrit and can be translated as "lion". Various Kshatriya communities have used this as a title in India, later it came into vogue with Rajputs. It was adopted by Sikhs in 1699, as per the instructions of Guru Gobind Singh. This surname came to be associated with power and authority, many other communities such as Brahmins and Baniyas of Uttar Pradesh started using it in the 18th century. Citing Kshatriya status, Ahirs (Yadavs), Kushwaha (Koeri) and Kurmis also use 'Singh' as part of their names. Many Muslim Shins also used the surname "Sing". People belonging to several other castes and communities have also used Singh as a title, middle name or a surname. Such as some Gujjars, Marathas, many caste groups of Bihar, etc. In order to create a casteless society, many first generation Indians and Nepalis have changed their surnames to "Singh". Hope this answered your question

There are many videos, people, articles and comments online claiming Sikhs were the main and first aggressors during the partition (1947). In reality, it was Sikhs who were first targeted by aggressive Muslim mobs in modern day Pakistan before the partition was even announced! Don't fall for any propaganda, especially Pakistani, which shifts most blame to Sikhs (as seen online and in movies/dramas). The looting, killing and abductions were all first unleashed by Muslim groups. 1946 genocide of Sikhs & Hindus in Hazara region Violence broke out in Calcutta, 1946 as the Muslim league ordered "Direct Action" resulting in thousands of deaths. Similarly, in late 1946, Sikhs and Hindus of Hazara district (NWFP) first faced unprecedented savagery from Muslim mobs. Although its not in Panjab, Hazara had a large Panjabi population. On 7/12/1946, many Sikhs in villages faced unprovoked attacks. In Batal village, 22 Sikhs and Hindus were killed or wounded. The markets of Uggi village were attacked and shops of Sikhs were set on fire, 5 more were killed. In Sum Ilahi Mung village, Sikhs and Hindu evacuees from Batal & Uggi were attacked, 14 were killed with 27 injured. In Garhi Jallo, stray killing of Hindus and Sikhs continued, the Gurdwara was also burnt down. This violence extended to other parts of the district. Many more Sikhs were burnt and shot. Due to deteriorating conditions, evacuees sought refuge in places such as Rawalpindi and eastwards in Panjab. Rise of Muslim-league agitation in Panjab The agitation had begun earlier in Panjab, however it grew more violent in February, 1947. There were many train hold ups in places like Amritsar and Ludhiana. On 14/2/1947, faces of non-Muslim tonga (horse carriage) drivers were blackened. The Muslim-league in Amritsar attacked a Sikh constable who was stoned to death by a mob (25/2/1947). Toha Khalsa massacre of Sikhs in Rawalpindi in March, 1947 Thoha Khalsa is a village of Kahuta Region of District Rawalpindi. Sikhs were attacked by people from surrounding villages in Rawalpindi on 6th March, 1947. They were asked to convert or face violence and the local Muslims remained silent despite assuring them safety before. Sikhs negotiated with the mobs for days and finally gathered at the grand Haveli of Sardar Gulab Singh. After Sikh houses were looted, mobs attempted to gain access to the Haveli. On March 12, 200 Sikhs were killed and the women were asked to accept Islam. However, most Sikh women (led by Maan Kaur) committed suicide at the village well. A while later, military arrived in the village to rescue any survivors. Link to eyewitness account of a 85 year old Muslim Account of Basant Kaur (survivor) "I took my children, and then we jumped in -- I had some jewelry on me, things in my ears, on my wrists, and I had fourteen rupees on me. I took all that and threw it into the well, and then I jumped in, but it's like when you put rotis into a tandoor, and if it is too full, the ones near the top, they don't cook, they have to be taken out. So the well filled up, and we could not drown... the children survived. Later Nehru went to see the well..."

I've had to do a shortish course lately, and I noticed how certain people in the class, are always trying to take the p1ss out of others and giggling. Then later on, when tests/exams come, you realise they have 'special needs' that make it really hard for them to pass without someone holding their hand. What, back when I was growing up, in less politically correct times, was referred to as being 'an 1diot' or a 'm0ron;'. I've worked with desis on and off quite a bit over the years. Most have exactly that same giggly, snide two-faced thing going on. I think we may have a high preponderance of 'special needs' people in our rural community?

Well explained. I can't emphasise this enough but majority of Panjabis/Sikhs are driven by short-term gains. Many of the problems facing Panjab's environment and people are a result of their own actions and lack of ability to focus on the long term future.

Organisations break down goals into 3 levels, strategic (very long term, and general), tactical (medium term and more specific actions and structures put in place) and operational (day to day activities that help realise the previous goals/aims). Our lot don't have ANY solid strategic goal let alone trying to put in place and develop norms in our society to realise them. Seems really thicko when you compare to other more developed people.

Our community really lacks educated/intellectual people. By educated, I don't mean having a PhD or speaking English but people who really understand our issues, how to approach them and think long term. Many of our people think about short term benefits. They seriously need to understand the long term implications of their actions and behaviour.

If this stunt is anything to go by......I'm wondering if he even has enough brains to understand what the problem is? Why don't we have smart, intelligent people as leaders? After all of the debacle of voting Badals for decades (and that too with bribes of alcohol), it looks like pendus would now vote anyone who is a minor celebrity (especially singers) into power?????? The mind boggles. The worlds getting more and more intense in various ways, if we keep voting dimwits and boliyan-paaing folks in, the writing is on the wall for us.

Disgusting! He's also rolling out a new initiative to clean up Panjab's rivers. The state of rivers in Panjab is very saddening. Ravi river is the most polluted in the world (although most of it falls in Pakistan today).

4. bhai shingara singh ji. read about his amazing jeevan: https://www.gurmatbibek.com/contents.php?id=1849 1. looks like bhai jeevan singh ji singhni (cannot remember name) 8. looks like Bibi Bhupinder Kaur ji

bhai preetam singh jee chani .They did akaal chlaana last year only.

2 bhai amolak singh 6 bhai preetam singh jee chani 9 looks like dr preetam singh jee 11 bhai jeevan singh jee 12 master niranjan singh jee 13 singh from UK 14 giani amolak singh jee 15 bhai joginder singh talwara 16 bhai surat singh jee pooran 17 bhai harbhajan singh jee sagoo 18 bhai rama singh jee 19 bau mal singh jee 20 jathedar raghbir singh jee 21 bhai kulwant singh kaki pind 22 Unknown 23 bhai avtar singh jee 24 bhai fauja singh 25 sri maan sant giani jarnail singh jee khalsa 26 kulwant singh jee nagoke 27 mehnga singh jee babbar 28 bhai anokh singh jee 29 sukhdev singh jee babar 30 gurjant singh budh singh wala 31 jathedar gurdev singh kaonke

That Jagjit Singh one I posted on the forum (and keep plugging) is definitely one of THE best in my opinion - The Sikh Revolution. Others have been previously mentioned, like: Sikh History from Persian Sources by Habib and Grewal Warrior Saints and Sicques, Tigers and Thieves by Madra and SIngh are great. Especially the latter, which contains most of the early European sources. Khushwant Singh's one is a good starting point, but we've had so much research since then, parts of it would be inadequate or out of date now.

You grew up speaking Punjabi, I'm guessing you went to a school where you spoke Punjabi, you spoke Punjabi with your friends, siblings and cousins. Your children who are going to school in New Zealand speak to their classmates in English, they watch English TV. If they marry a Sikh who was also born in New Zealand then they will speak to their partner in English, your grandchildren will grow up hearing their parents speak English, they may pick up some Punjabi from you but since you speak decent English your grand children will probably just speak to you in English. Your great grand children may know some Punjabi phrases but that will be all. That is how it works for every immigrant group throughout the world and throughout history. Show me one example to the contrary. Like I said if Punjabi language was of the utmost importance to you, you should have stayed in Punjab.

It's not a joke, it's an answer based on reality unlike most posts on this thread. Sure it's great to keep the language alive but based on the history of other countries it's highly unlikely. By the 4th generation the language is pretty much dead amongst 80-90% of the people. Just look at Indian people in South Africa and the Carribean where they have been longer than the UK. Do you speak English or Punjabi to your friends and siblings?

https://kashmirage.net/2020/05/30/burglars-loot-rs-2-lakh-cash-from-gurdwara-at-jawahar-nagar/

Your average sikh in punjab probably has hardly had much contact with a muslim tbh muslims make only around 1% of punjabs population. The Sikhs that witnessed the partition are now really old or dead. So sikhs in pubjab have no ide what it is like living with muslims when their population is large. Your average sikh in punjab has probably just spoken to kashmiri carpet sellers and gujjars and that's it. Hindus on the other hand in places like UP know what it's like living with a sizable muslim population, the hindus in Bengal know, delhi, etc same with the Buddhist in Myanmar and us sikhs in the west, basically anyone anywhere in the world where there is a large muslim population knows what it's like! Whenever sikhs in punjab see acts of violence against muslims in other states they get all defensive of the muslims because they have no idea what it is like living with a large muslim population. That's why sikhs in Malerkotla were protesting against the caa Once the population of muslims is a big minority in punjab only then will they know what it's like. Until then there really is not much you can do Other than wait for them to experience it themselves.

Her father's name is Ram Nath and her brother is called Pankaj Nath. Farooq Abdullah married a gori and she lives in UK with one her daughters. One of his other daughters is married to Sachin Pilot a Hindu Congress leader.

His wife was Payal Nath who was a Hindu. Apparently he is now having any affair with Nidhi Razdan, the NDTV anchor who is a Hindu Kashmiri.

Look no other religious community tries our girls like muslims do. Just avoid them at all costs.

They already have chief of the groomers and kidnappers was the chief minister of kashmir omar abdullah who married a sikh woman converted her to islam and had kids with her. Some of these Sikhs are so low IQ its embarrassing, they actually offering their daughters and sisters to the islamists with fake one way brotherhood. Not having the balls to tell non-sikh hostile communities to do one.

That's very bad on our part. We should not form any alliance with muslims even if it is just to spite the Hindus. Muslims are very dangerous to our community. They will kidnap our girls if they can get away with it.

We are just a bunch of people pleasers these days.

What will it take for some Sikhs to realise that muslims hate us. There isn't always some conspiracy behind everything.

I doubt there will ever be conventional war between these two nuclear armed states. If there ever was, Pakistan would lose and end up using a nuke and then their would be full out nuclear war. India has nothing to gain from war, all of the big foreign investors will pull out of India if a war does occur, Pakistan on the other hand has nothing to lose.

Yeah definitely Sikhs need to stay outta the mess. I find it very distasteful whenever our own foolish Sikhs start glorifying kashmiri or muslim victims of hindu gangs or indian army. And then the same Sikhs are either blaming india r&aw for the attacks or no where to be seen or very quite when jihadis attack Sikhs in chattisingpora march 2000 and recent afghan sikh kabul gurdwara genocide massacre and the attack on nankana sahib by pakistani muslim mob who force converted head granthi's daughter to islam. These kinda attacks open the eyes of Sikhs that islam and pakistan does not have our best interests at heart and so its great propaganda to use against pakistan and islam. It really helps to show why Sikhs shouldn't trust them especially on issue of khalistan and if khalistan is to be made it should be made in pakistan part of punjab also and that can only be done by doing Sikhi parchar to punjabi muslims there.