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Yes thats probably the main reason for the "open" meeting....... if the dudley "sangat" (any tom,<banned word filter activated> or harry from the brittainia pub) wants maas shaaarab then who are we to stop them..... they might as well as vote for strippers as well in that case as it will have a good chance of getting passed :-)!!!

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PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL YOUR SIKH CONTACTS TO CONTINUE RAISING AWARENESS Press Release and Sangat Update - Dudley, UK 6 April 2011 www.satkaarcampaign.blogspot.com Gurdwara Parbandhiks and Panthic S

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Sri Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. I must agree with my veer ji by the name of "whoareya" on this one. I have been involved in Gurdwara's for decades, and i have myself witnessed many y

The Dudley Gurdwara committee is far from perfect, they make many questionable decisions, and some (meat sharab parties and extension of building) are downright wrong BUT Why are words being thrown

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That's sad. It will always remain a Gurudwara building because the sangat's money was used to buy / build it. The only way it will become non-Gurudwara affiliated is if somebody outside of the community buys it.

Why can't they leave it as a place for the kid's martial art lessons or a nice little library? Seeing as the government are closing down public libraries in the UK, it would be a nice gesture for the wider community who could also have access to it. I'm sure they could derive an income stream from the building that doesn't depend on alcohol, meat and parties.

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is it tru that 1 of the committee guys have resigned? lol, he probably chickened out bcuz of all of this stuff going down. why did he get scared and run i wonder?

Perhaps he resigned out of principle. I have done that myself and often it's the strongest statement to make to the remaining members of the committee.

At the end of the day, I personally would never want to be associated with a committee who will go down in our modern history as the ones who abused the Guru Ghar and served meat, sharab and allowed dancing on the Guru Ghar's jagir, similar to some of the masands and mahants of the past. Let's be honest and put this situation into context. The maha beadbi and paap that Mahant Narian Das carried out in Nankana Sahib almost 100 years ago lead to the Gurdwara Sudhar Lehar where Sangat took control of our Guru Ghars to bring back Sikh principles, so now what is different in modern times when committees like GNSS Dudley pour sharab in the jagirs of the Guru?? Does this not deserve the same reaction from the Panth? Why is it that only 250 British Sikhs were pained by what was happening in Grays Gurdwara and went to protest and the remaining 499,750 Sikhs just carried on ignoring any issues by burying their heads in the ground?

At least this committee guy has the sense to abondon these abusers of the Gurdwara. I hope he stands with the rest of us when the time comes and we need to stand united against bad committees like this.

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If this committee member has resigned, it's a bold step. If the committee are acting like mahants in Gurdwaras, and using sangat income for their personal pleasures rather than Gurmat, then it is better not to be associated with such people.

These committee members will have their come-uppance at some point. If they think they can do their "chalaakiaan" and create a separate charity/committee to think they will stop the sangat complaining about their actions, they are living in cloud cuckoo land. Bottom line is that sangat money has been used to fund the hall. Therefore, no meat and alcohol. Guroo Jee will do his kirpaa and the continued arrogance of these committee means they will get sajaa in this world and in dharam raaj, unless they change their ways.

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This is a great example of how far manmukhs are willing to go in order to protect their manmukh activities! The easy answer for the committee is to do their seva and implement Gurdwara maryada. Instead they are thinking of ways to bend the rules to suit their means. Dudley sangat deserve better than this committee who are creating doubt in the minds of the sangat and continue to mislead. Shameful behaviour....

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Mod Note: This will be allowed to remain as it was a request by a member of the committee themselves for the information of the sangat. Giani Sukha Singh is known to be a respected member of the sikh community and therefore sikhsangat has faith that this is indead a genuine request.

why r u all assuming that he's a hero and did it for good reasons? i think he sold out. shudve stuck with the committee. and i heard he's a youth. it jus goes to show that when the s*** hits the fan, they all run...

_/\_ Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh _/\_

it is true!! that the "ONLY ONE YOUTH" in the management committee, resigned bec of his principle and his belief's ,

what ever you are saying or thinking "Mr hooareya-hooareya" is wrong man, you don't know what's up in dudley unsure.gif

NOTE FROM Darshan Singh Trustee: (he ask me to put this up)

The Open Sangat Meeting this Saturday 12pm is only for "dudley sangat"

regarding "meat and alcohol in the Gurdwara centre".

NO any "TOM Diek and HARRY" is allowed to come for this meeting. You will be ask to leave.

Giani Sukha Singh

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why r u all assuming that he's a hero and did it for good reasons? i think he sold out. shudve stuck with the committee. and i heard he's a youth. it jus goes to show that when the s*** hits the fan, they all run...

Great, so the rest of the committee who want to continue with allowing meat and alcohol in the Gurdwara are the real heroes?

The s*** has hit the fan for those who dont want to adhere to Gurdwara Maryada. The gravy train has come to its last stop. It's time for the committee to change it's selfish ways.

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_/\_ Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh _/\_

it is true!! that the "ONLY ONE YOUTH" in the management committee, resigned bec of his principle and his belief's ,

what every you are saying or thinking "Mr hooareya-hooareya" is wrong man, you don't know what's up in dudley unsure.gif

NOTE FROM Darshan Singh Trustee: (he ask me to put this up)

The Open Sangat Meeting this Saturday 12pm is only for "dudley sangat"

regarding "meat and alcohol in the Gurdwara centre".

NO any "TOM Diek and HARRY" is allowed to come for this meeting. You will be ask to leave.

Giani Sukha Singh

I beg the local Gursikh sangat of Dudley to attend this meeting and stop this beadbi which has been happening for many years now. . The Sikh Cultural Centre is owned by Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Gurdwara and as per Akal Takht Gurdwara Maryada, no meat, alcohol or tobacco is to be used or served anywhere on Gurdwara owned property. It is as simple as that. There is no hidden agenda, the cultural centre has to be used to promote Sikh oriented activities, like classes for kids, day centres for elders and not for parties where meat and alcohol is allowed.

This is the time for the Dudley Sangat to stop this committee from any further sacrilege of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

The Gurmat focused Sikhs of Dudley have to outweight those Manmukhs who the committee members will bring with them!

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Dudley sangat ji,

Please don't sell our Sikh principles for a cheap boozy party hall. On Saturday, the Dudley sangat have the power to stand up for truth and morality. The power to implement change for the better. Please step up and be the driving force which makes the move towards Gurmat. A plea from your brother, think carefully before you fall for any misinformation and support the promotion of meat and alcohol in the hall.

1 ) You can access the land registry titles http://landregistryservices.co.uk/ and clearly see that title number WM882914 regarding property Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Sikh Temple Community Centre, 27 Wellington Road, Dudley (DY1 1UB) is owned by 7 trustees of the Charity known as Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Sikh Temple.

2 ) The accounts submitted to the Charity Commission for years 2006 to 2010 clearly show that the Guru Nanak Singh Sabna Sikh Temple own and run the Sikh Cultural hall http://www.charity-c...ype=AccountList

The hall is associated to the Guru Ghar and as such is part of the estate regardless of it being across the road. Under no moral circumstances can meat, sharab and dancing be permitted on the sacred holy grounds of the Gurdwara property. Can the sangat of Dudley live with the conscience that this gross exploitation is taking place in their sacred Gurdwara?? The very Gurdwara where we humbly beg for amrit is being used to distribute alcohol.

Committees come and go, however, Sikh principles are here forever and will outlive all of us. Please don't let "influential" personalities feed you with modern day justifications of the demand for manmat even if they posses the titles which portray them to be Sikh leaders.

Sharam Dharam Doaye Shup Khaloaye Koorh Firay Pardhan Vay Laalo

O Lalo, both shame and righteousness have vanished. Corruption is now the Pardhan (leader).

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_/\_ Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh _/\_

I will be there definitely..biggrin.gif

Knowing that there will be a lot of people support the promotion of meat and alcohol in the hall. mad.gif

Giani Sukha singh

Giani Ji, we will all be doing ardaasa for the chardi kala of the Dudley sangat!

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Sri Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

I must agree with my veer ji by the name of "whoareya" on this one. I have been involved in Gurdwara's for decades, and i have myself witnessed many youths come into the place, wanting to take over, wanting to change the running as they please, thinking that they have respect, when in actual fact, they have no respect for their elders. I think regardless of the issue, this youngster should have stayed with the committee because they run the Gurdwara everyday, and he should have supported it as a team effort.

On may occasions i have had youths do this, come into the picture then run scared when it comes to doing Seva. God only remembers the people who do Seva, not the people who come down in numbers and then disappear when the dust has settled.

So, i think we should give the committee more respect that this one kid who has decided its too much for him to handle. Dont get me wrong, i am all for soorjavaan young people coming into committees, but not people like this, who go when the going gets tough. Plus, i have heard of the Dudley committee youths anyhow, and i know they are not worthy of their title even.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Sri Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

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