Man'S Turban Stolen In Southampton Race Attack

[dalsingh101]

And pakistanis being who they are, always pick on sikhs. They know we dont have pride anymore.

They are clever, they avoid harassing the apnay that would bring them drama and concentrate on the hordes of the vulnerable. This is something I think Waheguru put in nature, if you ask me. When I watch documentaries, I always notice that when predators are hunting a group they always seem to try and single out the younger, weaker prey. Or take opportunities when someone strong is at an disadvantage. I mean look at Libya right now. Once trouble started in his country, predators like the Brits turned on it where as only a short while a go they were cosy with the leader. These are patterns of life apany need to understand and deal with.

By the way, I also think Paks also try and keep cordial relationships with stronger Sikhs/Panjabis in a very tactful way, and that these types of apnay are often disgusted with the way an average apnay goes on these days and would probably relate to a paki fighter, more than Sikh office job fodder?

[Kalsingh]

They are clever, they avoid harassing the apnay that would bring them drama and concentrate on the hordes of the vulnerable. This is something I think Waheguru put in nature, if you ask me. When I watch documentaries, I always notice that when predators are hunting a group they always seem to try and single out the younger, weaker prey. Or take opportunities when someone strong is at an disadvantage. I mean look at Libya right now. Once trouble started in his country, predators like the Brits turned on it where as only a short while a go they were cosy with the leader. These are patterns of life apany need to understand and deal with.

By the way, I also think Paks also try and keep cordial relationships with stronger Sikhs/Panjabis in a very tactful way, and that these types of apnay are often disgusted with the way an average apnay goes on these days and would probably relate to a paki fighter, more than Sikh office job fodder?

Yeah, thats pakistanis for you. Or any group that has so much pride in itself, (such as the britain example you quoted). What can we do about it though, if its nature like how you described than theres nothing we can really do.

[dalsingh101]

Yeah, thats pakistanis for you. Or any group that has so much pride in itself, (such as the britain example you quoted). What can we do about it though, if its nature like how you described than theres nothing we can really do.

Essentially we need to stop looking like and acting like prey.

Read that how you will.

I think a large part of the original Khalsa thing was doing exactly this by the way. It was a part of dasmesh pita's plan.

[Kalsingh]

A final note by myself on this topic.

To all you young singhs and sikhs out there reading this, don't think by ignoring these attacks, your problems will go away. Once you are all grown up and well into your late twenties, early thirties, you may have escaped the sort of drama which goes on in and around school and college but what about your kids?

I remember, after the riot of 97 when SP retailiated to the muslims from slough, once that blew over, thats about the time when sikhs started losing their reputation on the street. It just went downhill from there. Before this young punjabis were respected on the road by pakistanis, blacks and whites.

When I was in school about 10 years ago now, i started hearing of sikhs getting beat, being ridiculed all over. A racist somalian who was pretty well known on the street in that area even said harsh words about singhs and was up for war with them. He said it in front of loads of people not just somalians. Now I'm not an advocate of violence but he should have been confronted by singhs and asked what his problem was. If it came down to violence then so be it. If there was unity, you wouldn't have fools like this ridiculing us and whatever. But there was no unity. Sikhs didnt back each other.

I recall a couple of years back somalians attacked a singh on a bus in southall. Now you have black youth throwing chicken bones at a singhs turban in ilford and of course this attack on our brother by whites in southampton. The thing is, its not just from whites and pakistanis no more. Its blacks and i wouldn't be surprised if in a couple of years chinese start attacking us. Its got to stop and the only way is if you all get together and back each other up. Its a numbers game at the end of the day. A racist thug is not going to touch a singh if he knows that the next day there will be 20 to 30 angry singhs looking for him. But the thing is he knows this won't happen and so the drama continues............

[dalsingh101]

I'd like to add:

From experience we find that a lot of the people who combated this kind of stuff (successfully) in the past and made hard sacrifices were monay, and not ones that were particularly punctilious with religious norms/discipline.

If we are going to unite and face these things, this whole jumping on a high horse that frequently takes place these days, with people being excessively judgmental and castigating others constantly needs to stop. Be realistic, no one is going to help defend those that they perceive as acting obnoxious and supercilious towards them. Certain people seem to hide behind their religiosity whilst doing squat about these things at the same time. Frankly they need to shut up or risk making things worse than they are already.

[Kalsingh]

I'd like to add:

From past experience we find that a lot of the people who combated this kind of stuff (successfully) in the past and made hard sacrifices were monay, and not ones that were particularly punctilious with religious norms/discipline.

If we are going to unite and face these things, this whole jumping on a high horse that frequently takes place these days, with people being excessively judgmental and castigating others constantly needs to stop. Be realistic, no one is going to help defend those that they perceive as acting obnoxious and supercilious towards them. Certain people seem to hide behind their religiosity whilst doing squat about these things at the same time. Frankly they need to shut up or risk making things worse than they are already.

I agree 100 per cent

[Premi5]

Another incident

 

 

anyone know more about this incident in West Midlands?

thoughts please @chatanga1

@dallysingh101 @proactive and others…

[dallysingh101]

3 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Another incident

 

 

anyone know more about this incident in West Midlands?

thoughts please @chatanga1

@dallysingh101 @proactive and others…

What more is there to say? I just read through my previous posts. A decade later they still articulate what I think about the matter now. They are almost predictions of this. 

That being said, anyone can be vulnerable to attacks that are cowardly designed to take advantage of people being unaware and unsuspecting (i.e. an attack from behind), or take advantage of age, or even differences in numbers and physical size.  

[chatanga1]

On 4/9/2022 at 11:31 AM, Premi5 said:

anyone know more about this incident in West Midlands?

thoughts please @chatanga1

Haven't heard anything. SIkh Youth UK would know more about this.

[dallysingh101]

On 4/29/2011 at 10:49 PM, dalsingh101 said:

I think so many apnay live in a fantasy world these days. Living off the glory of their ancestors. Despite all the macho warrior posturing, plenty of Sikhs still seem to get bullied and bashed about at ground level in the diaspora. As usual most of the community doesn't seem to want to face this ugly truth and that almost guarantees it will continue.

Anyway, it isn't worth saying any more on it because it's obvious that we seem to have crossed some threshold and are set on a trajectory that ensures our financial/economic well being but at a cost. Am I the only one who feels somewhat embarrassed at the dichotomy between our supposed warrior credentials with what often goes on at street level?

I know it's a complicated issue, but still, if a problem does exist, unless we first acknowledge it, we have no chance to trying to resolve it.

More than a decade later, has anything changed?