Sikh Channel & Dudley Protest

[AnakinSkywalker 31]

I want to know what retard smashed this window.

I want to know who he is, what jatha/group he belongs to, and I want him to make a heart felt apology to Guru ji and the Sikh Panth for bringing them into disrepute.

[VanHelsingh 1,985]

Where does trashing Guru Ji's property come into the Saint-Soldier aspect of Gursikhi?

It comes when some take the Soldier aspect a bit too far. That's what I meant about people having trouble reconciling the two and not knowing the boundaries of conduct.

[BhaiSukhSingh 7]

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[AnakinSkywalker 31]

It comes when some take the Soldier aspect a bit too far. That's what I meant about people having trouble reconciling the two and not knowing the boundaries of conduct.

I understand and respect your viewpoint, (its valid for some people) however that's no excuse for their actions...and such an excuse would not hold up in a court.

[West London Singh 328]

Oh I'm sorry. I was looking for a Sikh forum. I seemed to have wandered onto the Bhuddist Zen Ghandi Appreciation Society website instead. :stupidme:

Who are all these 'sikhs' here on this thread that seem to be confusing Sikhism with zen Bhuddism ? Now....I can understand some of the laughable lack of knowledge about Sikhi because it is half term and alot of the litte 'uns are off school with time on their hands....but....I'm pretty sure some of these people are actually grown ups. Which is pretty frightening.

Broken window. Oh deary me. Never mind beadbi of their own beloved Guru we've got a muppet here who's got his knickers in a twist over a broken window. As windows go its a pretty small window too. I mean you see broken windows all the time. Some of them are really big and expensive. Small are medium size and some are small. But this particular one is the sorriest smallest broken window I've ever seen. What kind of person gets so excited and worked up about a tiny cheap broken window that he feels the need to log onto the internet and tell the world about his horror ?

Grow up people and get some backbone. You don't pay poll tax today because demonstrators used physical violence force against the police in order to change policies. You don't get arrested and pinned on false charges for being non-white because the non-white people before us used physical violence against the police in order to change policies. This list is endless. This country has a history of violent protest to achieve what is right.

But honestly...hand on my heart....I dispair. I dispair at what kind of pathetic Sikhs exist in this country. True Sikhs....in order to protect Sikhi....travelled hundreds of miles only to have their paghs knocked off....their beards pulled in hate.....and be met with disgusting abuse whilst doing simran....by fellow 'sikhs'........And yet we have people here more concerned about a broken window. And even then not having the intelligence to understand how police batons were being swung....people being pushed into windows etc. I truly dispair.

[Only five 1,124]

How can those that are condemning the strong arm approach say anything when they can't even stop using absuive language on a forum. These condemners are telling the Singhs to control their emotions, but are completely emotional themselves. Where does it say in Gursikhi that you can use abusive language toward anyone, which you don`t agree with. With this next one I`m pretty sure this will be very accurate. Those that use abusive language are too scared to stand up for Satguru, so they come on forums to let their anger out. If you can`t hack it in the frontlines then don`t sit on here acting holier than thou. Speak about peace when your mouth is not filled with abusive language.

[zoltansingh 83]

Oh I'm sorry. I was looking for a Sikh forum. I seemed to have wandered onto the Bhuddist Zen Ghandi Appreciation Society website instead. :stupidme:

Who are all these 'sikhs' here on this thread that seem to be confusing Sikhism with zen Bhuddism ? Now....I can understand some of the laughable lack of knowledge about Sikhi because it is half term and alot of the litte 'uns are off school with time on their hands....but....I'm pretty sure some of these people are actually grown ups. Which is pretty frightening.

Broken window. Oh deary me. Never mind beadbi of their own beloved Guru we've got a muppet here who's got his knickers in a twist over a broken window. As windows go its a pretty small window too. I mean you see broken windows all the time. Some of them are really big and expensive. Small are medium size and some are small. But this particular one is the sorriest smallest broken window I've ever seen. What kind of person gets so excited and worked up about a tiny cheap broken window that he feels the need to log onto the internet and tell the world about his horror ?

Did Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji fall for 'Bhuddist Zen Ghandi...' when he sent jatha to court arrest ?

There is a time and place for everything and the protest was not the place for violence.

[Only five 1,124]

Here is a question for those that condemn the Singhs for taking the soldier side. When Massa Rangarh was holding beadbi at Harmindar Sahib and two Chardikala Singhs went in and took his head off in Harmindar Sahib. Were Bhai Mehtab Singh ji and Bhai Sukha Singh ji wrong to do this? When Massa Rangarh head was cut, don't you think his blood would be going all over the holy floor of Sri Harmandir Sahib! The Singhs didn't takhe his body with them. They took only his head.

[West London Singh 328]

There is a time and place for everything and the protest was not the place for violence.

Right I see. So if having your religion mocked whilst doing simran.....having alcohol and cigarettes shoved in your face whilst doing simran......Having bhangra deliberately turned up to drown your simran and not to mention the police antics etc is not the right time.....Pray please do tell when the right time is ? You seem to working in a different time zone to normal sikhs.....and seemingly enjoy standing by watching your guru being mocked......so is the right time when the fat lady sings ? When the tutti hits the fan ? When the cows come home ? When the green grass grows ? Seriously now.....if having your guru mocked doesn't make you fight back what exactly is it that gets your goat ? What exactly is it that will finally get you to man up ? What time will this boy become a man ? Seriously, I'd really like to know....when is the 'right time' ?

[Only five 1,124]

In the past the media put Sikhs as terrorist, whether that be Baba Deep Singh ji or Sant Baba Jarnail SIngh ji Khalsa. But the news reports never stopped the Singhs from carrying out the duties that they had too or they never went around condemning their brothers acts.

[VanHelsingh 1,985]

I understand and respect your viewpoint, (its valid for some people) however that's no excuse for their actions...and such an excuse would not hold up in a court.

Depends on which court you're referring to. If you're referring to the court of God, then that's a different matter.

There comes a time when a person has to decide between being content with everything that life throws at him, OR getting up and doing something about the situation because its the right thing to do.

[darknight 22]

great debate but we losing track on the central issue..........has the minds of the comittee wale or dudley sangat changed???

listning to the nihal programme a trustee of the gudwara came on and it don't seem the case..........the bloke on the picture of the sun and the mail is still a comittee wale of the sikh cultural centre and the gurdwara simultaneously...have the committee signed the letter and sent it to the akal thakt??

i hear that the dudley sangat now wishes to ban all gursikhs from the gurdwara.....and turn the gurdwara to the first mona only gurdwara?? is this true

[zoltansingh 83]

Right I see. So if having your religion mocked whilst doing simran.....having alcohol and cigarettes shoved in your face whilst doing simran......Having bhangra deliberately turned up to drown your simran and not to mention the...

Answer the question 'Did Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji fall for 'Bhuddist Zen Ghandi...' when he sent jatha to court arrest ?'

Cigarettes were pushed into the faces of Singh like Shaheed Bhai Amrik Singh in the 1980s yet Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji kept to 'Jail Bharo'!

You forget what Shaheed Baba Banda Bahadur did when they killed his son in front of him?

At the end of the day the violence did not achieve anything. The committee wale at the Dudley Gurdwara are a mischievous lot, they are not bothered about a sandesh from the Akal Takht so I doubt they will have and regard for the signed agreement? They are already backtracking and no doubt will have booked a few meat sharab functions for the hall since the protest.

[VanHelsingh 1,985]

great debate but we losing track on the central issue..........has the minds of the comittee wale or dudley sangat changed???

listning to the nihal programme a trustee of the gudwara came on and it don't seem the case..........the bloke on the picture of the sun and the mail is still a comittee wale of the sikh cultural centre and the gurdwara simultaneously...have the committee signed the letter and sent it to the akal thakt??

i hear that the dudley sangat now wishes to ban all gursikhs from the gurdwara.....and turn the gurdwara to the first mona only gurdwara?? is this true?

I hope not. They can't do that, can they?

[Only five 1,124]

Answer the question 'Did Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji fall for 'Bhuddist Zen Ghandi...' when he sent jatha to court arrest ?'

You forget what Shaheed Baba Banda Bahadur did when they killed his son in front of him?

IF you want to talk about Sant ji and Banda Singh Bahadur then you better get real. Sant ji always gave people time to stop the beadbi. Just like now the SInghs gave time to the committee to stop the beadbi. But Sant ji never let all this happen and just stand there waiting for the party to be over. Banda Singh Bahadur took revenge for the killings of Satguru's children.