Bbc One Must Watch -Sikh Girls Groomed By Muslims

[taran0]

White girl interview about muslim grooming

There was an interview on radio 5 live this am (Wednesday 28.08.13).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b038vjj2

A girl aged 14 (named Jessica - not her real name), was groomed by a muslim man.

During the interview Jessica recounts how after 3 - 4 weeks of meeting that he had sex with her, although he knows she is only 14 -

Jessica also tells how she was headbutted, kicked and punched, intimidated and threatened.

Jessica also recounts how the police, social workers and foster families all allowed Ali access to her.

She was put into care because her parents were deeply concerned about her safety - the Police told her she should be ashamed.

At 21.0 (minutes) Jessica states that Jahangir Akhtar (deputy leader of Rotherham council and vice chair of Police and crime panel) knew about Ali raping her and arranged for her to be handed over to the Police while Ali could go free.

[taran0]

this is important and shows how dangerous attitudes that blame women for rape and abuse are - i am quite shocked at some of the comments on this forum and how quick they are to judge and blame young women for the abuse they suffer. Victims blamed in India's rape culture - http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/27/opinion/gupta-india-rape-culture

Editor's note: Ruchira Gupta is the president of Apne Aap Women Worldwide, an Indian organization dedicated to ending sex trafficking. She is the 2009 recipient of the Clinton Global Citizen Award for her work with victims and survivors of sexual violence.

(CNN) -- When I read about the rape of a 23-year-old photojournalist in Mumbai, I thought, here we go again. On December 6, 1992, when I was a 29-year-old reporter covering the demolition of a mosque in northern India, I was attacked. I wasn't raped, but my attackers sexually assaulted and then tried to kill me.

Someone dragged me to a trench outside the mosque and pulled my shirt off. But a passerby jumped in, fought off my attackers and saved me.

When I appeared in court to testify against the attackers, their lawyers asked me questions that implied I was responsible. How could the daughter of a good family have gone to cover the demolition? Did I smoke? What kind of clothes was I wearing? Did I believe in God?

Ruchira Gupta

The judge did not stop them. It was a demoralizing and toxic experience, but one that is not unknown to women in India who choose to speak out against sexual attacks. They are silenced by a process that heaps shame, fear and guilt on them.

Indian women feel sorrow, anger at U.S. student's harassment

In rural Rajasthan in 1992, a judge dismissed charges filed by a low-caste, or Dalit, grassroots social worker, Bhanwari Devi, who said she was gang raped. She had been campaigning against child marriage. A judge said, "a middle-aged man from an Indian village could not possibly have participated in a gang rape in the presence of his own nephew."

A judgment like this not only deters other women from testifying against their rapists, it also emboldens the attackers, who know that they will get away with it.

Most women say they would never tell the police about an attack, afraid that they would be ignored or even abused by the cops themselves.

Few women want to appear in court only to be stigmatized and traumatized -- unlike treatment of the suspects. While India's legal framework has improved for women over the past 20 years, the people implementing it are mostly male cops and lawyers who live in a deeply patriarchal society.

Incidents of rape have gone up by 873% in India in the past 60 years. On average, each day, three Dalit women are raped in some part of our country. The conviction rate for rape cases in 2011 was 25% -- although some estimate only one in 10 rapes is reported. The conviction rate for men accused of raping Dalit women is almost nil.

The National Crime Records Bureau's annual report of crime statistics also reports disturbing findings: A woman is raped somewhere in India every 20 minutes, and the number of children raped has increased by 336% in the past 10 years.

This culture of impunity is certainly one of the reasons rape has too often become the weapon of choice for frustrated young men who blame women, increasingly visible in the workplace, for their unemployment, and who hope to regain jobs by frightening women back home through sexual violence.

The desire to blame women is fed by a cult of masculinity promoted by corporate and political leaders who serve as role models for the rest of society.

Harassment in India: 'The story you never wanted to hear'

In the course of my work with Apne Aap Women Worldwide, I have seen the steady creeping of a rape culture into the fabric of India. We work to organize women in prostitution to resist their own and their daughters' rape. The biggest challenge we face is the attitude of politicians, senior police officials, heads of foundations and even policy makers who view rape as a normal part of society. Many have told me: "Men will be men."

Recently, when National Crime Records Bureau pegged West Bengal as the state with the highest incidence of crimes against women, the chief minister contested the bureau's statistics rather than tackling the problem.

Continually, budget allocations to the Ministry of Women and Child Development are reduced. Debates to ensure equal power sharing between the sexes through the Women's Reservation Bill have gone nowhere.

But no amount of violence and intimidation is going to force women back into their homes. In fact, homes are often the places where females are in the most danger -- from the time they are conceived to old age. An average Indian female could likely be a victim of foeticide, infanticide, malnourishment, dowry, child marriage, maternal mortality, domestic servitude, prostitution, rape, honor killings and domestic violence -- simply because she is female.

Equipped with better education, women are courageously taking their place in the public sphere as doctors, lawyers, journalists, bankers, politicians, farmers, teachers and more. They are signing up for social justice movements to end the growing inequality and unemployment in our country.

As yet another gang-rape victim suffers in a Mumbai hospital in India, we have to recognize the need to overhaul the criminal justice system.

In December 2012, India and the world were shocked by the brutal gang rape and beating aboard a moving bus of a 23-year-old physiotherapy intern, who later died of massive internal injuries. It prompted desperate calls for reform, protests and close examination of India's attitudes toward rape.

But after the initial outrage, it seems that the law has only changed on paper. The rape in Mumbai might not have happened if the culture of rape was truly overcome and sexual assaults were taken seriously.

[jashb]

Evil dirty groomers are the root cause shamsher

Innocent unsuspecting parents and children who would never dream of such attrocities are easy prey

Its a male chauvinist view to just blame the girls, which is the problem with asian communities.

The muslim viewpoint is that its the girls fault, if she didnt cover up, she brought it on herself, so it absolves the men of any responsibility, It is her fault

Wheras sikhi teaches men " par triya roop na pekhey netr" do not look upon other peoples women, sikhi teaches the men to control their lust, and respects women.

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When amhed shah abdali invaded india and took its daughters as sex slaves, the sikh warriors stood up and saved who they could and returned the sisters home.

The cowards said its their own fault

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this is the maryada of the house of Nanak, that in the kalyug the gurmukhs will go in and save who they can

And not just leave them to suffer and die.

Thank guru there are people like sas and sikh helpline which still beleive in helping and protecting families, without them this prorgramme wouldnt even be happening.

Three words bro;

1. HAMMER

2. NAIL

3. HEAD

[Singh559]

White girl interview about muslim grooming

There was an interview on radio 5 live this am (Wednesday 28.08.13).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b038vjj2

A girl aged 14 (named Jessica - not her real name), was groomed by a muslim man.

During the interview Jessica recounts how after 3 - 4 weeks of meeting that he had sex with her, although he knows she is only 14 -

Jessica also tells how she was headbutted, kicked and punched, intimidated and threatened.

Jessica also recounts how the police, social workers and foster families all allowed Ali access to her.

She was put into care because her parents were deeply concerned about her safety - the Police told her she should be ashamed.

At 21.0 (minutes) Jessica states that Jahangir Akhtar (deputy leader of Rotherham council and vice chair of Police and crime panel) knew about Ali raping her and arranged for her to be handed over to the Police while Ali could go free.

Good on these kids to exose these scum who are in gov positions

[singh135]

What are these girls doing with these Muslims in the first place?

Bad parenting is the root cause.

Even as a guy my parents always kept a very close eye on me and made sure I got up to no mischief.

Outrageously narrow minding thinking amongst our youth, no kaum community spirit; everyone to their own. Such a terrible pity.

[Jonny101]

Outrageously narrow minding thinking amongst our youth, no kaum community spirit; everyone to their own. Such a terrible pity.

I don't think this is narrow mindedness. It is no secret how our parents raise our children. I will give you an example of what I mean. Just recently I had a relative's daughter who married a Muslim man. While my family were sitting with relatives and saying how sad it was that such a thing happened, but the daughters of many of these relatives were saying "so what? love is blind, if she love's him that's all that should matter". When I heard girls who are my relatives having such views I blame it on bad parenting because it's the responsibility of parents to insure they pass on moral values to their children. Those girls have grown up with parents who give them absolutely no religious knowledge little attention to their daughters and instead all they(the parents) care about is doing Chuglis with other ladies, buying their suits and going to parties. Our parents do not give their daughters traditional Sikh morals. My own sister, before she got married, my parents knew where she was going, who her friends were. When a teenage girl(who is a child) is being exploited I feel for her. But who will we blame when a mature Sikh girl in her 20s willingly goes to pubs with her friends, drinks and has sexual relations with strange men? Such girls(in their 20s) are clearly a result of bad parenting.

Only way to save your child in this increasingly Kalyugi world is to give them religious values and attach them to Gurbani from a young age. Go to Gurdwaras as a family, find a Giani who can give your child Gurbani Santhya, encourage your child to read and memorize Gurbani, that is the only way. A Sikh child should become Nitnemi by age 10.

[Ranjeet01]

I must say that it is a coup for the grooming situation to be on the BBC, considering the fact they tend to show a pro-muslim bias. It will be interesting to see if the islamaphobia card will be thrown in

[SarabhaPanjab]

How long can the BBC ignore the race of groomers as a insignificant, in the face of 85% of all street groomers coming from community group.

[Ranjeet01]

I wonder if Channel 4 (another media outlet that tends to have a left-wing pro-muslim bias) will also have a similar documentary? You are correct though, once it affects the white majority, the likes of BBC cannot afford to ignore the problem. I think the Jimmy Saville case has opened a lot of people's eyes. The common Pakistani muslim answer would be "It happens in all communities", but the question would back would be "How come it is proportionally much higher in your community, how come your community is over-represented?"

[ghettosikh]

I first thought that this ''Grooming'' meant they were having relationships but i did my research and found out its prostituiton which is really messed up! From my research alot of these guys who do this look like uncles why on earth would these girls be dating them in the first place and the parents really do need to warn there children about these things. But the thing that shocked me the most was that the sikh community in the has had this problem since the 80's i thought we were too busy fighting off skinheads at tht time not exttremist muslim freaks cn anyone shed some light on this issue on why it happens and the history of it in the 80's i thought this was a new thing tht just recently started happening