Biggest Answer To Muslims

[Singh559]

Just out of interest, as anyone ever...even once....actually read anything on sheikhyerbooty's cut and paste posts ?

No

[SheikhYoBooty]

Sikhism is copied from Hinduism and Islam.

But bro Sikhi doesn't believe in terrorism, slavery, rape and pedophilia as practised by Prophet Muhammad and stated in the Quran

You can't defeat Islam because even if a Muslim does not believe in Islam he would be still loyal to his faith and more importantly Muslim causes.

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I know many Muslims who have no faith in God yet they are proud to call themselves as Muslims.

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And lastly you shouldn't worry about Islam.Even if 5 million Muslims denounce Islam it won't make a big difference to our numbers.

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We produce millions of Muslims every year.

AND at the end I would like to say Islam would be the last religion to be finished by Atheism.

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In today's world Muslims are more loyal to their faith than any other religion.

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Even Atheists from Muslim background like myself are loyal to it :D

But bro sooner or later atheists like u will get stoned to death by Muslims if u dare to admit your belief so try to spread knowledge of Islam's evil nature before it is too late and they stone u to death for being a kaffir. The atheist percentage like you is growing stronger in Muslim countries as the internet speads so ffor your protection u need to finish Islam before it finishes + exterminates u bro.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/data-shows-pakistan-googling-pornographic-material/

Bro u gotta be kidding me. As AB's finest representative on this forum u need to educate that dude about his religion.

And the best way to do that is using the following facts and video's compiled by ex-Muslims.

How the heck can peeps even be doing Dawah when Islam + the Quran are so blatantly exposed as totally false!

Does anybody in the real world believe that Jesus had a virgin birth like the Quran claims!

How can selling innocent children into Slavery or raping female slaves like Islam allows be the laws of God.

We need to defeat Islam by spreading knowledge of what it stands for in order to free people from slavery to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTeAB4l0KCM

Facts prove that the pedophile slaveowner and terrorist called Prophet Muhammad was:

a narcissist

a misogynist

a rapist

a pedophile

a lecher

a torturer

a mass murderer

a cult leader

an assassin

a terrorist

a looter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVWksqo-u-8

MUHAMMAD'S SPIRITUAL PROBLEMS

• When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic.
• Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff.
• According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses").
• Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs.

MUHAMMAD'S PROBLEMS WITH PAGANISM AND IDOLATRY

• Islam promotes idolatry (e.g., bowing down to the Kaaba and kissing the black stone).
• Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers.

MUHAMMAD'S PROBLEMS WITH VIOLENCE

• Muhammad ordered his followers to torture a man named Kinana to find out where some money was hidden. Muhammad then had Kinana killed, and took his wife for himself.
• Muhammad commanded his followers to kill critics of Islam.
• Muhammad ordered his followers to kill apostates, even if they had good reasons for leaving Islam.

MUHAMMAD'S SCIENTIFIC PROBLEMS

• The Qur'an claims that stars are missiles that Allah uses to shoot demons.
• Muhammad's teachings about personal hygiene would lead to death if Muslims took them seriously.
• Muhammad claimed that Gabriel explained to him why children look like one parent or the other. Gabriel's answer is completely false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj24Oz1MuCE

MUHAMMAD'S EVIDENTIAL PROBLEMS

• When Muhammad was too shy to tell his dinner guests to leave, Allah stepped in with a special revelation that should make everyone wonder whether Muhammad's revelations really have anything to do with God.
• The Qur'an declares that Christians find Muhammad mentioned in our scriptures. Yet our scriptures call Muhammad an antichrist.
• In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed.
• The Qur'an presents a test for divine inspiration, but fails the test.
• Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation.
• The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct.

MUHAMMAD'S PROBLEMS WITH WOMEN

• Muhammad allowed his followers to hire prostitutes.
• The Qur'an allows Muslim men to have up to four wives at a time. But Muhammad received a special revelation giving him (and him alone) the right to break the four-wife limit.
• Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha.
• The Qur'an allows Muslim men to beat their wives into submission.
• Islam allows Muslim men to rape their female captives and slave-girls.
• Muhammad married the divorced wife of his own adopted son (after Muhammad caused the divorce), and the Qur'an offers an absurd defense of Muhammad's actions.
• When Muhammad's wife Sauda became fat and unattractive, Muhammad intended to divorce her. Sauda had to relinquish some of her marital rights to avoid being abandoned.
• After Muhammad got caught having sex with his slave girl in the bed of one of his wives, he swore that he would stop having sex with his slave-girl. Allah ordered him to break that oath.
• Muhammad claimed that women are less intelligent and less moral than men.

MUHAMMAD'S THEOLOGICAL PROBLEMS

• According to the Qur'an, Allah is the "best of deceivers."
• According to Muhammad, Allah wants people to sin, and he threatens us with annihilation if we refuse to sin.
• Since Allah would destroy us for not sinning, the true savior of humanity, according to Islam, is Satan, who tempts human beings to sin and therefore protects us from being destroyed.
• Muhammad didn't know whether he would go to heaven or hell when he died.
• Islam teaches that Allah will punish Jews and Christians in hell for the sins of Muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz_c53O3-Hk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkbFweDHe40

[kazimakazima]

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[StarStriker]

What a foolish little person.

Q. Why did you visit the dawah stand in the first place?

A. You visited the dawahstand because you are not a sikh. A person is not a sikh just by taking birth in a sikh family. Sikh is an individual who has learned everything about sikhi and is living his life according to sikh teachings. Your knowledge about this religion was so minuscule, because you are not a sikh, the dawah man made you feel even more minuscule and insignifcant. This feeling goes hand in hand with the feeling that you 'messed up' and were worthless as a human being. I am surprized why the earth did not open up to swallow you, little person. You are having a friendly debate with the dawah man about something you have no clue of. Obviously, the dawah man had more knowledge to show you the fake sikh that how inadequate sikh religion is according to his craft to convert you.

You would 'lose' the debate because there was no debate in the first place.

Q. Did you ask him anything regarding number of Gods, for him to answer?

A. No, you did not. He already knew that you wanted to hear his answer as to the number of Gods that exist. He told you since there is only one god it is only common sense that there should be only one religion, and his religion is the only one the entire world or the entire human race should follow. Am I right? Here I really have to applaud you for your stupidity in not replying him back with the Mool Mantra which says 'IK ONKAR' right at the beginning of it. So, in fact you don't even know your Mool Mantar. YOU ARE THE STUFF THESE DAWAH MEN ARE LOOKING FOR, FOR EASY CONVERSIONS.

Q. Did he ask you about why you keep long hair and wear a turban, inspite of your appearance?

A. Yes, he did so he could take the liberty to teach you about your religion, seeing what a fool you were. If you were a true sikh as opposed to a look alike or mona or fokka, you would have also asked him about circumcision, fasting for forty days, sacrificing animals at eid why turn your head towards mecca when praying and why are muslim men allowed four wives and why can't women have four husbands etc etcs.

Keeping long hair and wearing the five k's is not a ritual in anyway. These k's are needed for a sikh in the same way as the dawah man needs circumsicion, fasting and sacrificing of animals on eid to call himself a muslim. Now be a good little boy and go tell this dawah man what you think of his teachings.

Damn geezer, u went in hard!

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

18 pages...seriously? And those 18 pages, we have managed to argue with and insult each other, copy and paste the same response 10+ times, say things that don't match Gurbani and even attempt to engage a Dawah stand without going in fully prepared.

First, let's address the post title -

Biggest Answer To Muslims = No, thank you. I am proud to be a Sikh and do not wish to leave my faith.

The above response is something that each and every Sikh basically said to so called Muslims in history. From the Chotte Sahibzadae to Bhai Taru Singh to the multitudes of others that were faced with the same choice. Do you think the parchar back in the day was any less? The pressure less? No. It was many degrees more intense, with the threat of death and torture looming as a definite to saying no to Islam. No more response was needed then and no more response is needed now. No debates, no arguments needed.

But, as Johnny101 has already stated, it is more to do with your own faith and EXPERIENCE in Sikhi than bashing another faith. How many of the Sikhs have actually FELT something from Sikhi? A sweetness, a bliss, that they would not be willing to betray for another faith? Rare are those ones. When Gursikhs who have experience speak of Naam Simran and its pleasure - a pleasure that exceeds all worldly pleasure - why would they betray that for another faith that makes no such promises? It is those who have not had any experience, any actual spiritual revelation of Divine bliss and Naam Ras that will betray their faith or feel susceptible to such forces.

WE need to sort ourselves out and give our own Sikhs the means to get the experience that Gurbani promises. Once that is done, the other faiths can write millions of pages of evidence against Sikhi, but the faithful Sikh will politely deny them their arguments and assurances because the Guru and Akaal Purakh will give them those joys that other faiths fail to promise. I say this after having read the other scriptures and seeing the message of Gurbani in stark contrast from the other faiths. We should not discourage any other person from their faith (and in fact encourage them in their pursuit, as the Gurus did in Gurbani), but we should know what it is that we are supposed to experience and strive to experience it.

As for the status of Guru Sahib being all knowing and what not:

Gur Parmeshar Eko Jaan - Ang 864. As abbreviated as possible, this explains that the Almighty and the Guru are one. Yes, Dasam Patshah said that those who would call him Akaal Purakh would burn in hell. But realize that Dasam Patshah also explains in Bachittar Natak of how all of those sent to the world encouraged others to worship them instead of the Almighty. This was a strict warning to the Sikhs to not make the same mistake. That the Akaal Purakh would be forever worshipped and not the ten Masters as the Almighty. The Ten Masters were indeed God in the world, but they are not the limitation of, nor the boundary within which the totality of the Almighty can be contained. They are not the Aadh-Unt of Akaal Purakh, because Akaal Purakh can do whatever whenever however. In fact, the true verse to understand is "BANI Guru Guru Hai BANI, Vich Bani Amrit Saarae" - Ang 982. Or "Vah(o) Vah(o) BANI NIRANKAR HAI, Tis Jaevad Avar Na Koe" - Ang 515. The Ten Masters were in fact Masters because their human form contained Gurbani, which Gurbani itself documents as being Nirankar/Akaal Purakh. Therefore, the human bodies and titles that they are assigned, Guru Nanak Sahib Ji to Guru Gobind Singh Ji are not the forms to worship, but rather the GURBANI vested in that vessel that was to be worshipped. It was a prohibition of Dasam Patshah to not worship his body form as an idol or picture, but rather to worship the Gurbani and know it as Akaal Purakh itself. Much like we cannot make idols or picures in the physical shape of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and worship it but rather worship the Gurbani Akaal Purakh that is vested in Granth form. The other partakh form of this is Khalsa Panth Guru Roop Punj Pyare, who are Tyar Bar Tyar Gursikhs who have invested the teachings of Gurbani in their life and become the physical, active presence of the Guru/Akaal Purakh in this world. This may seem confusing, but hopefully it makes some sense.

Some katha and explanation of the Gurus and their bodies can be found here:

- more specifically 25:24 onwards for sakhis of Guru Nanak Sahib and Guru Gobind Singh Sahib's Shareeric Saroop's reality.

Back to topic - let's learn from history and become better Sikhs rather that better debaters. Then we can embody the verse "Mun Na Digai, Tan Kahe Ko Darai" - Ang 1162 - face any obstacle with unshakable faith. The day the Sikh Panth embodies this is the day no force can convert a Sikh to any other faith.

[YOYO29]

But bro Sikhi doesn't believe in terrorism, slavery, rape and pedophilia as practised by Prophet Muhammad and stated in the Quran

But bro sooner or later atheists like u will get stoned to death by Muslims if u dare to admit your belief so try to spread knowledge of Islam's evil nature before it is too late and they stone u to death for being a kaffir. The atheist percentage like you is growing stronger in Muslim countries as the internet speads so ffor your protection u need to finish Islam before it finishes + exterminates u bro.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/07/12/data-shows-pakistan-googling-pornographic-material/

I know I'm an Atheist but I don't see it is necessary to tell any one in my neighborhood that hey look I'm an atheist.And why would I tell anybody that I'm an Atheist.There is no logic behind it.

And you know Atheists from any community tend to do more for their community.I read somewhere that founder of RSS was an Atheist.And I seriously believe that our founding father Jinnah was an Atheist too.I owe to my community the Muslims.And I want to see Muslims open minded and more powerful.You know even if a Jew do not believe in God he is still loyal to his community/faith.Same with me.I'm proud to be a part of Muslim community and ready to fight for Muslim causes. Because Once a Muslim is always a Muslim.And considering our huge population even if 200 million people leave Islam (which is highly unlikely) it won't be big deal for us but as hardcore supporter of Khalistan I would like to advice you that you should focus on Punjab.For the first time in 500 years you are in majority in Punjab.Don't let Atheism and Bihari Bhayas to turn Sikhs into a minority.As you know Gurdaspur ,Jalanandhar,Hoshiarpur and Nawanshar are Hindu majority now.Do something to improve you demography before its too late.

Agreed Atheism is growing but this is not unique for Muslims.Atheism is growing in almost every country.You must have been aware that in India particularly in Indian Punjab atheism is growing.There a lot of people in your Punjab who are abandoning Sikhism and Hinduism.

[Balkaar]

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[SheikhYoBooty]

@YOYO29

Bro the best way that u Pakistani's can help Sikhs is to fight + campaign for Pakistan splitting up into smaller countries.

As Pakistan is the glue that holds the rotten terrorist state called India together.

The minute Pakistan disintegrates and fragments then so will India once Pakistan has collapsed totally.

Also it would help if u as an Atheist try to expose Islam as the cancer it is.

As remember atheists faking as Muslims on the outside control access to Nankana Sahib.

So expose Islam on Muslim forums bro before the Muslims discover u are atheist + attempt to stone u to death.

Don't say I didn't provide u enuff material ;-)

[YOYO29]

@YOYO29

Bro the best way that u Pakistani's can help Sikhs is to fight + campaign for Pakistan splitting up into smaller countries.

As Pakistan is the glue that holds the rotten terrorist state called India together.

The minute Pakistan disintegrates and fragments then so will India once Pakistan has collapsed totally.

Also it would help if u as an Atheist try to expose Islam as the cancer it is.

As remember atheists faking as Muslims on the outside control access to Nankana Sahib.

So expose Islam on Muslim forums bro before the Muslims discover u are atheist + attempt to stone u to death.

Don't say I didn't provide u enuff material ;-)

Bro as I told you that I'm convinced Atheist and I know that every religion is man made so there is no point on wasting time on any religion.I won't get anything by openly confessing I'm an atheist.And nobody will ever know that I'm an atheist because I have no intentions of openly confessing.

So You think that Pakistan is glue which hold India together ? Well I don't agree.You know when Pakistan got divided in 1971 it did have major impact on India.No state from India seceded.Even the creation of an Independent Bengali state did not force Indian Bengalis to get freedom from Indian rule.Indian Bengalis are quite patriotic.If we accept your logic that Pak is glue which holds India together then west Bengal should have joined Bangladesh by now.Disintegration of Pakistan won't harm Indian unity.As you know India is a name a brad which has a history of 5000 years whereas Pak is just 70 years old entity.

[YOYO29]

@YOYO29

As remember atheists faking as Muslims on the outside control access to Nankana Sahib.

Did not get it ? What Nankana Sahib has to do with Atheists ?