Mool Mantar Sant Gurbachan Singh English

[Arsh1469]

Japji Sahib Katha 1 countined

Guru Ji added the numeral 1 to show there is no duality. There is only 1 God. Oankar can be split into two separate syllables when trying to find the meaning. The first part is Aum and the second is Kar. Aum can be split into 3 different letters which are A,U and M. The three letters represent the word Akar,Ukar and Makar. The word Akar represents Brhama. Ukar represents Vishnu and Makar represents you gussed it Shiva. According to Hinduism the three demi gods are considered most sacred and are responsible for the welfare of creation. Brhama the creator. Vishnu the provider or sustainer and Shiva the destroyer. This shows that Aum represents the trinity. Kar represents the formless lord whom is known as Vahguru. Kar is placed on top of Aum to show they gain there powers form Vahguru.

Akar, Ukar, Makar and the Ardhbind (Kar), when all four come together  and form one then understand this to be Oankar (Adhyatam Ramayan)

The Sidhs hearing this asked why add the numeral 1 it is not in the Vedas. So why do this.

Guru ji said "Our faith is for everyon and all of humanity. The Mantra Aum in the Vedas is knly for the Brahmin social class of people as they can both listen and recite it. The social class of Kshatris can listen to Aum but cannot recite. The social classes of Shudras and Vais cannot listen to or recite  the mantra. All of the women from all four of the social clasdes cannot listen to or recite the mantra of Aum. By placing the numeral one in front of the mantra, Oankar we show that God has no duality and Ik Oankar can be read and recited by anyone from any background. Those people who say Ik Oankar will be saved.

For this reason, we have created this mantra for all of the people in the world. Just as a cloud showers all the people with rain, in the same way God is showering all of the people of the world with grace and love. Regardless of race, gender, colour, creed, social class etc. Unlike the Aum mantra everyone has the right to recit this Ik Oankar.

To be countined...

[Redoptics]

4 minutes ago, Arsh1469 said:

This discussion is not a debate it is a discussion of teaching people the words of Sants and of Japji Sahib. If you don't agree that is okay then don't read.

Fair enough 

[GurjantGnostic]

4 hours ago, Koi said:

If what Kavi Ji has said is in line with the Guru's teachings, then there's no problem with it.

I'm not here to debate. I like the thread. I was truly interested in you expanding on that. 

[Redoptics]

3 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

Japji Sahib Katha 1 countined

Guru Ji added the numeral 1 to show there is no duality. There is only 1 God. Oankar can be split into two separate syllables when trying to find the meaning. The first part is Aum and the second is Kar. Aum can be split into 3 different letters which are A,U and M. The three letters represent the word Akar,Ukar and Makar. The word Akar represents Brhama. Ukar represents Vishnu and Makar represents you gussed it Shiva. According to Hinduism the three demi gods are considered most sacred and are responsible for the welfare of creation. Brhama the creator. Vishnu the provider or sustainer and Shiva the destroyer. This shows that Aum represents the trinity. Kar represents the formless lord whom is known as Vahguru. Kar is placed on top of Aum to show they gain there powers form Vahguru.

Akar, Ukar, Makar and the Ardhbind (Kar), when all four come together  and form one then understand this to be Oankar (Adhyatam Ramayan)

The Sidhs hearing this asked why add the numeral 1 it is not in the Vedas. So why do this.

Guru ji said "Our faith is for everyon and all of humanity. The Mantra Aum in the Vedas is knly for the Brahmin social class of people as they can both listen and recite it. The social class of Kshatris can listen to Aum but cannot recite. The social classes of Shudras and Vais cannot listen to or recite  the mantra. All of the women from all four of the social clasdes cannot listen to or recite the mantra of Aum. By placing the numeral one in front of the mantra, Oankar we show that God has no duality and Ik Oankar can be read and recited by anyone from any background. Those people who say Ik Oankar will be saved.

For this reason, we have created this mantra for all of the people in the world. Just as a cloud showers all the people with rain, in the same way God is showering all of the people of the world with grace and love. Regardless of race, gender, colour, creed, social class etc. Unlike the Aum mantra everyone has the right to recit this Ik Oankar.

To be countined...

Where are your sources for this? You are now talking about the trinity,  which in itself opens up a whole different subject.

[intrigued]

On 2/16/2021 at 3:14 PM, Arsh1469 said:

Here is the bibliography

I think you can find some sources here @Redoptics

 

30 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

You are now talking about the trinity,  which in itself opens up a whole different subject.

In regards to this - that may be from the Nirmalas katha on Mool Mantar...

[GurjantGnostic]

2's and 3's are fascinating and all that but it starts and ends only with 1. 

[Arsh1469]

Mool Mantar definition 2

Ik Oankar 

Ik = one unique Oankar = the name of God.

The Numeral one stands for a being that is unique and has no other similars to them.

God is considered to be Sujati. This means God is the only one of his species and you can find no other like him. Unlike other species you can find them in numbers of more then one such as human beings. There are over 7 billion humans in the world showinh that an individual human is not Sujati as there are over 7 billion similar to them but God has no other remotely similar to them.

God is Vijati. This means God has no other species similar to him. Humans have other mammal group, which are similar to them. According to science and the evolution theories of Darwninism and Lamarckism state that the primate family pf apes is similar to that of human beings and they are descends. Im this way there is no other species similar to God.

God is Svaigat. God was born from himself and does not have any limbs or attachments. A tree is born from a seed and has branches and flowers or fruit. A human is born from another human and has limbs such as arms and legs. Other creatures such as chickens are born from eggs. Animals such as head lice are born from heat. God is unlike those species and was not through the means of womb, eggs, a seed or from heat. God is self born and is the form of self illumination. God is with our limbs, forms or characteristics seen by people but he is bound within all of his creation.

Within all is the illumination and the Lord is the illumination within all. By this illumination the light radiantes in all. (Ang 13 SGGS)

In this way God is Sujati, Vijati and Svaigat.

God has no Des(Country). God does not have his own land, which can be named. God does not reside in any specific land but everywhere at once. The Hindu consider God to reside in the East and face the sun in meditation. Muslims consider God to reside in Meeca and face the direction when praying.
(According to Sant Ji it used to be a Shiva Mandir and all the idols were destroyed when Prophet Mohammed took it over. Also Sant Ji says that it used to be white but due to the sins of people it turned black)

(On Prophet Mohammed from what we know of Avtars we can conclude that he was ethier a Avesha or Nit Avtar)

Christians and Jews consider God to reside in the seventh level of Heaven. However, God resides in all places all at once. God is present in all lands as Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji showed in Mecca, when the Kabba moved in the direction that his holy feet turned.

The Lord resides in all of the lands
Dasam Granth Ang 6

God has no Kal (time). At some point every being was born Ethier at day or night. God does not die due to this nor does he take birth. His form is immortal. Tod is considered timeless and cannot be placed into the concept of time, which is a man made concept.

To be countined...

[Arsh1469]

I am laughing because someone downvoted because they can't accept the true words of Sant Ji.

[MisterrSingh]

On 2/24/2021 at 5:18 AM, Arsh1469 said:

(According to Sant Ji it used to be a Shiva Mandir and all the idols were destroyed when Prophet Mohammed took it over. Also Sant Ji says that it used to be white but due to the sins of people it turned black)

Muhammad and the Muslims in Mecca did not participate in the draping of the Kaaba until the conquest of the city at 630 AD, as the ruling tribe, Quraish, did not allow them to do so. When Mecca was taken by the Muslims, they decided to leave the Kiswah as it was until a woman lighting incense in the Kaaba accidentally set fire to the Kiswah.

Muhammad then draped it with a white Yemeni cloth. It's also been draped in various coloured cloths such as green and red.  The actual kabba looks like:

[jkvlondon]

On 2/20/2021 at 6:07 PM, Redoptics said:

Like I said before if the teachings are not from the Guru , I wouldn't follow it.

bro Guru Nanak Dev ji gave first nitnem of japji Sahib and mul mantra stop arguing please