ALCOHOL being served in GURUDWARA

[Akaali]

SATPREET,

What are you waiting for? This is be-adbi of Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaj, and

mocking of the Khalsa, post the info, I know this is taking place in California, there are

other singhs in Cali area like SOGGS, and MKhalsa, so please post the name/info on

the gurdwara, you're doing a bigger paap by not giving out the info, so something

could be done..

These people need to be confronted ASAP, either as a jatha of singhs, or in a large

crowd of sangat.

[Simran9]

khalsa jio

just hold tight for a little while! Serveral ppl in cali and elsewhere have just been pm'd about this and we are only waiting for their response to this so we know what step we should take next.

In the meanwhile khalsa jio post solutions to the problem. Is there an organization who can be informed about this problem? SGPC is always asleep and I don't know if they can do anything.

So think of solutions sangat ji, cuz we don't want our singhs and singhneea to be arrested there cuz of a fight or anything like that.

please please please!!!

thanx

[GurSa Singh]

In the meanwhile khalsa jio post solutions to the problem. Is there an organization who can be informed about this problem? SGPC is always asleep and I don't know if they can do anything.

Khalsaji,

The only organisation that can help is the Khalsa Panth! You can contact all the other bodies and believe me the response will be poor and disheartening.

At the end of the day, you have to do what a GurSikh is supposed to do.

What we expereinced in London on Sunday made us aware that the Guru just wants the Khalsa to take one step towards doing the right thing and the Guru will complete the task to such perfection that the spirits of all involved will never falter again to face issues like this head on.

You must be pro-active and attempt to sort the problem. If there's confrontation, than so be it!!!!

[tarunjeet singh]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

DOES ANYONE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE GURUDWARA IN UK THAT SERVE MEAT OR SHARAAB. OR JUST GIVE DETAISL OF THE OENS IN YOUR AREA OR THE ONES YOU KNOW OF.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[sikhlionz]

lets start with the basics in the uk-

nirankaris because thats an issue we'll all agree on and are willing 2 sort out

London Gyani Joginder Singh

Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan

Sipson Lane, Hayes, middlesex,

UB3 5AG, U.K. 181-7599990 (Bhawan) 181-8970309

(LONDON)

Slough Bhag Mal

8, Third Cres,

Off. Gloucester Avenue, Slough,

Berks, SL1 8AS, U.K. 1753-527532 ®

Shri Joginder Singh Walia

6, Buckingham Avenue East,

Slough, Berks, SL1 3EA, U.K. 1753-714605 ®

(LONDON)

Illford Shri S. P. Bhandari

33, Belmont Road, Illford, Essex,

IGI 1YW, U.K. 181-4780770 ®

(LONDON)

Grays Shri Piara Singh

141, Cromwell Road, Grays-Essex

RM17 5HQ, U.K. 1375-396224 ®

(LONDON)

Erithkent Shri Lahori Ram Bhandari

33, Glendale Road, Erith-Kent,

England, DA8 1BP, U.K. 13224-40123 ®

(LONDON)

Gravesend Kent Shri Amrik Singh Tagore

5, Genesta Glade,

River View Park, Gravesend (Kent), PA 12 4PR, U.K. 1474-355357 ®

1474-333070 (O)

(LONDON)

Bedford Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan

94, London Road, Bedford,

MK42 ONT, U.K. 1234-21094 ®

Shri Gulzara Ram

34, Kemston Road, Bedford,

MK42 9DP, U.K. 1234-47528 ®

Shri M. S. Khinda

97, Wentworth Drive, Bedford,

MK41 8QE, U.K. 1234-215060 ®

1234-21682 (O)

Shri Baldev S. Khinda

9 Colchesterway, Bedford,

MK41 8BG, U.K. 1234-215705 ®

1234-353495 (O)

Shri Sucha Singh

23, Fair Fox Road,

Queens Park, Bedford,

MK40 4LS, U.K.

(LONDON)

Hitchin - Herts Shri T. S. Dhillon

5, Molton View

Hitchin Hert

s England,

SG4 0QR, U.K. 1462-455220 ®

(LONDON)

Oxford Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan

236, Marston Road

Oxford, OX3 OEJ, U.K. 1865-240229 ®

(LONDON)

Luton Shri Narinder Jandu

29, Verulam Garoens, Luton,

LU3 3SE, U.K. 1582-752378 ®

(LONDON)

Chearsley Shri I.S. Johore B.Sc.

13, Brookside,

Off- North Court Road

Abingdon, OX 14 1PD, U.K. 12345-534537 ®

1865-240229 (Bhawan)

Shri Baldev Singh

64, Vandle Man's Lane,

Littlemore, Oxford, U.K. 1865-452766 ®

Leicester Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan

2A, Prebend Street,

Off. London Road, Leicester

LE2 OLA, U.K. 116-2550843

116-2897423

116-2661442

Shri Gian Singh

65, Kirkland Road,

Brawnas Tone, Leicester,

LE3 2JQ, U.K. 116-2241341 ®

116-2338599 ®

1162-665664 (O)

1313-6627100 (O)

Shri M. S. Bhamra

35, Sandringham Ave.

Leicester LE4, 6GA, U.K. 116-2661442 ®

Shri Kewal Singh

171, Catherine Street,

Leicester, LE4 6GA, U.K. 116-2239476 ®

Smt. Rashida Begum

W/O Shri Haroon

Bhabha Manzil,

12-Beery Bbut Way,

Rutland Road, Stamford, Linces,

PE9 1DS, U.K. 1780-51686 ®

Shri Om Prakash Joshi

18-Endsleigh Gardens, Sydenham, Leamington SPA,

Warwickshire, CV31 1RQ, U.K. 1926-332284 ®

(LEICESTER)

Rughby Shri B. S. Anand

1-Townsend Lane,

Lang Lawford, Rughby,

CV2 9DE, U.K. 1788-579656 ®

1788-823062 ®

(WEST MIDLAND)

Birmingham Shri Amar Singh

2, Broom Hurst,

Off Augustus Road, Edgbaston,

Birmingham, 15 3NL, U.K. 121-4543746 ®

121-5589188 (O)

Shri T.S. Bassan

275, Manmough Drive,

Sutton Coldfield, Birmingham,

B73 6JU, U.K. 121-3556350 ®

121-5530277 (S)

121-5563501 (Hospital)

Shri Balwinder Singh Sidhu

3, Honey wood Drive Carlton,

NG3 6ND, U.K. 115-9501926 ®

115-9857915 (O)

Shri Vivek Chadha

19, New College Close,

B

roadway Park,

Waisal WS 13 TF, Midland, U.K. 1922-725436 ®

1753-580190 ®

121-5512296 (O)

181-3843367 (O) 797-0510456 Mobile

1922-646882 Fax

ukilp@dial.pipex.com

(WEST MIDLAND)

Smethwick Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan

217/218, Cheshire Road

Smethwick, West Midland,

B6J 6DJ, England, U.K. 121-5586650 ®

Shri H. S. Upashak

11, St. Marks Road, Smethwick,

Warley West Midlands,

B67 6QF, U.K. 121-4343242 (O) chadds@istellb.demon.co.uk

(WEST MIDLAND)

Wednesbury Shri Sham Lal Ahuja (Missionary)

Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan

24, Walsall Street, Wednesburry

WS10 9EL, West Midlands,

England, U.K. 121-5560322 ®

(WEST MIDLAND)

Wolverhamption Shri Iqbal Singh

125, Park St. South,

Wolverhamption, WV2 3JG,

West Midlands, England, U.K. 1902-560928 ®

Shri Bhagwan Dass

36, Kent Road, Wolverhamption,

WV2 2BB, U.K. 1902-56092 ®

(WEST MIDLAND)

Stock-On-Trent Shri Amarjit S. Chera

138, Lundy Road, Longton,

Stock-on-trent, Staffs,

ST3-3EF, U.K. 1782-323358 ®

Bradford Sant Nirankari Satsang Bhawan

75, Napler Street,

Off Leeds Road, Bradford,

BD3 8LT, West Yorkshire, U.K. 1274-668397

1274-774184 Atam Ram Ji

Shri Jawahar Singh

158, Rochester Street,

Bradford, Yorkshire,

BD3 8AU, U.K. 1274-661378 ®

(BRADFORD)

Leeds Shri Raghbir Singh Virdee

30, Barston Terrace, Beeston,

Leeds, LS11 8TP, U.K. 113-274802 ®

(BRADFORD)

Huddersfield Shri Surjit Singh Kanwal

100, Victoria Road, Huddersfield,

Youkshiere, HD1 3RT, U.K. 1484-312272 ®

(BRADFORD)

Derby Shri Harbhajan Singh Oberoi

166, Little Over Lane, Derby,

DE3 6JL, U.K. 1332-773114 ®

(BRADFORD)

Glasgow (Scotland) Shri Tarsem Singh

108, Hatton Gardens Gardonald,

Glasgow Scotland,

G32 3PU, U.K. 141-8821720 ®

141-4206041 (O)

you all ready? then we'll move on to bhatra temples in uk such as in mosely, radhaswami temples- come on if we all tell the truth if we truly opened our eyes we most likely drive past 5 just on the way to work :T:

it's a real shame that all this biadbi goes on but it's a fact that we all have share the blame for :wub:

[Guest JSS]

i'm guessing since you're waiting for the cali singhs to respond, that the gurdwara is in california?....anway...

as important as it is to act swiftly to end this beadbi...it's important to keep a cool head...make sure you talk it over with other sikhs and have a solid plan of action...

the most solid thing would be to go over their with a group of singhs and educate these people....be careful not to start throwing insults and whatnot or starting a fight right away...a guru's sikh always has to show love... but not waiver on what's right and wrong...

i would say that after talking to them, if they do not agree, simply take Guru ji's sundar saroop out of the gurdwara...if they try to stop you, just stay focused on your task...if they throw insults at you, ignore them... if they try to get physcial, don't fall into that trap...just stay focused on the task...and please do not get personal...

the reason why i stress this is that too many times people get so caught up in their anger and emotions that they say things and do things that instead of helping only worsen the situation....

meanwhile....Satpreet veer/bhen (sorry..no clue)....you should give us the name of the gurdwara and phone number so that we sikhs in Canada or other places can call the committee and talk to them... i understand your hesitance to give us that info but you need to understand that by revealing the gurdwara you're not causing shame to them, in fact you're helping them...every gurdwara has the potential to be a place of great inspiration where normal men and women become inspirational men and women, where people walk in dead but leave more alive with the divine flame of

guru ji's love....right now, this gurdwara isn't really doing that...but with a little help and guidance from fellow brothers and sisters it can be....it can be a beautiful place being showered with guru's blessings...

waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh

[sikhi]

sikhlionz,

So all the Gurdware that you listed above serve Meat and Alcohol are you 100% sure.

[naam_jap]

The solution is the Sangat turn up in masses and confront the committee and the people doing this beadbi.

Its always not that easy to start off directly with a committee, IF a single person fights against it, then all will come and join, but it has to start with one person.

Guru Ji is with you, wht fear you have? Do something good , stop it

--

Its a good idea to give the address of the Gurudwara or pm it to some gursikh who is in that vicinity.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[sikhi]

the ones i posted are nirankari temples with manmukh parchaar- dhaethari guru, etc.

if u are talking about meat then just walk into your local bhatra temple for a kfc bucket meal

if you put them together we're talking a heck of a lot of "temples"

there's a lot of blame to be shared

nirankari are not sikhs, so they can drink and do what they like.

But if they start to disrespect Bani then thats some thing else.

[Son of Guru Gobind Singh Ji]

vaaheguru ji ka khalsa vaaheguru ji ki fateh

There are Singhs all over the California and many organizations such as Khalsa Alliance have theis bases in California so if something was wrong, atleast someone would know or have a hint. If you want something to be done please stop playing the guessing game and post the Gurdwara Sahib name, name of the town, street and phone number if possible so Singhs can do something about it.

vaahegru ji ka k halsa vaaheguru ji ki fateh