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19 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:

Guru ji adopted 4 childern.

https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Zoravar_Singh_Palit#p-personal

Anyone have more information or know any Sikh historical granth that does?

Most Sikhiwiki articles would mention a source for their articles. This article does not show any source!

Also, I’ve been lucky enough to listen to 10th Patshai''s history, from numerous sources. I have never heard this account from anyone. I have never read any of this in any books either.

The fact that the article doesn’t quote a source, makes me question the authenticity of this article.

The only adopted son by Mata Sundar Kaur Ji, is of Ajit Singh. Alit Singh resembled Sahibzada Ajit Singh. When Mata Sundar Kaur Ji came to know of all four Sahibzade's Shahadat. She wanted to adopt this Ajit Singh to remind her of Sahibzada Ajit Singh.

Despite Guru Ji's advise against the adoption, Mata Ji still went ahead. And took him to Delhi, while Guru Ji left for Nanded.

This account can be found in Sri Gurprtap Suraj Granth. Written by Choodamani Kavi Santokh Singh.

By the way, Choodamani means...the most precious jewel in the Crown...

 

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I have doubts of these other four as they would have been metioned in bhaiJaitha ji's writings too and other hazoori Singhs writings

The Ajit Singh adopted by Mata Sundar ji ended up being the antithesis of a son of Guru ji and not worthy of that moniker

siki wiki is run by 3ho types and therefore sikhs should take everything posted as possibly tainted and find out via our own research as they also have links back to RSS (sharing same swamis/pandits as Indira and RSS/modi)

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On 12/12/2020 at 7:29 PM, jkvlondon said:

I have doubts of these other four as they would have been metioned in bhaiJaitha ji's writings too and other hazoori Singhs writings

The Ajit Singh adopted by Mata Sundar ji ended up being the antithesis of a son of Guru ji and not worthy of that moniker

siki wiki is run by 3ho types and therefore sikhs should take everything posted as possibly tainted and find out via our own research as they also have links back to RSS (sharing same swamis/pandits as Indira and RSS/modi)

You realise the chalakhi they're trying to perpetuate, don't you? It's SO transparent! They think so little of Sikhs.

Basically, if this is accepted, in the future they'll claim THESE youngsters were the ones who gave Shaheedi because Guru Ji "protected" his biological sons from dying on the battlefield. It's an attempt to defame Guru Ji, his overall sacrifice, and the bravery of the Sahibzade.

They're playing on the narrative about that Singh who resembled Guru Ji, who'd occasionally venture out to confuse the enemy. With this they've taken it to the next level. 

It's also quite telling they've chosen to focus on the Ramgharia background of this new "son". My theory is anyone who objects to it will be labelled as a pro-caste supporter. Classic shaming tactic. 

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I have in the past read about Guru ji letting Mata Sundri adopt a boy from Delhi, but he didn't turn out to be good and after Guru ji left the earth the adopted son declared himself Guru. 

So many of the Guru relatives used to declare themselves the Guru and many of the sangat used to believe them. Not that different to the fake Gurus of today. Guru Arjan Dev Jis brother declared himself Guru and later tried poisoning Guru Hargobind Sahib ji.

Every single story from our ithiaas is as relevant today as it was back then. 

 

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On 12/12/2020 at 6:50 PM, MokhamSingh said:

Most Sikhiwiki articles would mention a source for their articles. This article does not show any source!

Also, I’ve been lucky enough to listen to 10th Patshai''s history, from numerous sources. I have never heard this account from anyone. I have never read any of this in any books either.

The fact that the article doesn’t quote a source, makes me question the authenticity of this article.

The only adopted son by Mata Sundar Kaur Ji, is of Ajit Singh. Alit Singh resembled Sahibzada Ajit Singh. When Mata Sundar Kaur Ji came to know of all four Sahibzade's Shahadat. She wanted to adopt this Ajit Singh to remind her of Sahibzada Ajit Singh.

Despite Guru Ji's advise against the adoption, Mata Ji still went ahead. And took him to Delhi, while Guru Ji left for Nanded.

This account can be found in Sri Gurprtap Suraj Granth. Written by Choodamani Kavi Santokh Singh.

By the way, Choodamani means...the most precious jewel in the Crown...

 

Ganda Singh mentions this adopted son of Guru ji in his footnotes of Sainapati's Gursobha. The adopted Zorowar Singh sometimes has been confused with Sahibzadha Zorowar Singh. The adopted son was one of the few that actually managed to fight his way out of the cordon placed around Chamkaur. 

There is a Persian eye witness account  of his death too. 

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