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  1. I know what you mean. You only know who your friends are when you're at rock bottom or at least almost there. Make no mistake, the fastest way for a community/ethnicity/race to disintegrate is due to apathy, indifference and selfishness. This is more potent then even a Nuclear bomb. Unfortunately too many of our fellow Sikh's are 'stuck on stupid', always blaming everybody else and never looking inwards. It's either the RSS, the West, alcohol or drugs. They don't see their own selfishness and indifference.
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  2. Indians are in thrall to the fantasy that the British arrived in Hindustan and discovered some sort of glittering utopia, which they then proceeded to dismember. They insist that imperialism set them back (when, if anything, and in spite of its many evils, it propelled India forwards centuries), and make this the scapegoat for all of India's contemporary problems. To address this insecurity they've come up with the idea that whereas the West is materially rich, Indian society is morally and spiritually rich (this from the gang-rape capital of the world). It's all they've got to try and even
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  3. Urgh. 'Western culture' isn't what's leading people to murder their baby girls. That's the handiwork of sexist Punjabi culture. 'Western culture' isn't what's leading people to take drugs. 75% of Punjabi youths are addicted to drugs. The figures for Western societies don't even touch this. Get real. Our Punjabi brethren are so smug sometimes.
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  4. StarStriker bro if you look at the link on Hrman Singh's OP the link for figures is available there. I'm not quite sure about if 80% of Haryana becoming Sikh would have been realistically achievable given that the Jatts have always been notorious opponents of Sikhs in the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs and comprised the majority of the Delhi police in 1984 like the Jatt Sajjan Kumar but we should still try our best with parchar even now. But for definite if we all work unitedly as a Panth (putting aside our differences to focus on what unites us) we can increase Sikh numbers to over 100mil
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  5. Quantavius bro we already have such an organisation in place - the SGPC. The problem is it is riddled by corruption so we have to peacefully seize back control or set-up a parallel organisation which is fully transparent and accountable for every penny of funding. My sincere conviction is that if HS Phulka Ji and the AAP can sweep Badal out of power in the Punjab elections in 2017 we can reclaim the SGPC and increase Sikh numbers massively simply on account of Sikhi being the Truth. Recognising all those that attend Gurdwara as fellow Sikhs would at a stroke push Sikh numbers in Punjab to ab
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  6. So we have one section of Punjabi society that are having less children due to affluence and this has an impact in the fertility replacement rates for Sikhs. We have another section of Punjabi society that is poor and are not receiving help and therefore accept help from Xtian evangelist groups with bribes and other enticements. We have the claim of the majority of the youth (I expect would cross all social classes) are drug dependent, the ones who are not are the ones that have emigrated.
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  7. We have no nation, no base, no Raaj. Is it any surprise that the Sikh quam is in decline? Raj bina neh Dharam chale hain Dharam bina sab dale male hain
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  8. glad to c u people so much concerned about happenings here in punjab..there are 5 reasons behind decreasing populations of sikhs in punjab 1. migration of sikhs to other countries 2. immigration of non sikhs from other part of country 3. female foeticide nd infanticide 4. lower fertility rate among sikh families 5. increasing trends of drug addicts in punjab because most of them are left unmarried,divorced or they die at very early stage. but the my major concern is about solution which is political, economical nd religious. political because we don't have right representative in pu
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  9. I agree. But fertility decrease due to hedonism is an influence of Western influence. Also, I do not believe that 75% of entire population in punjab is addicated to drugs. In some areas, may be. But over-all, I have seen no credible statistics on drug use in Punjab. Can you share some credible statistics from well-established sources on drugs?
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  10. This book written by Dr. Harbhajan Singh answers ALL questions on Dasam pita's bani If you have guts, read it before putting any efforts to comment.
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  11. To be honest if u look at the demographics of that link provided, im not too concerned by the muslim population ppl keep on mentioning. Out of the nearly 28million population, 16million is sikh, nearly 11million is hindu. U then add up christian(350k), muslim(540k), jain(45k) and buddhist(33k), and their numbers together dont even make up a million!...that too out of 28million. My main concern is the hindu population, which is jus growin too much in panjab, n we all know this is due to immigration from outside states like UP/Bihar,n not hindu panjabis. Even the christian numbers i expected
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  12. That's not true, I know family members of the couple who's wedding was halted at Walsall. The anand karaj ceremony was not carried out instead an agreement was reached to carry out an ardaas to receive a blessing. The groom was Radha Soami with a Sikh father and Hindu mother he did not have Singh in his name. No Hindu ceremony ever took place.
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  13. Excellent post. Western culture created the computer we're all typing on, the internet, car, flight....pretty every much single thing in our lives we take for granted and the very best of countries to live in on the planet. We denigrate the West yet every Indian's wet dream is to hop on a plane and live in the west. How did these alcoholics and drug abusers create the best countries in the world to live in? As if Punjabis didn't know how to drink and consume drugs before the advent and influence of Western culture in the East. Actually, it's the West who learned how to use drugs from Eastern
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  14. Well, if we allow nature to take its course I think the natural conclusion will be us becoming a footnote in history, in terms of Punjab of course. I don't agree with some of the hand-wringing that occurs when issues of this nature are discussed, with the suggestion that Sikhs back home are completely free of blame for these situations to come to the fore. They consider themselves a savvy, proud people, no less capable than any other group in the world. Unfortunately, the herd mentality that manifests itself through various facets of their existence means they aren't as clever as they thin
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  15. After looking at the numbers, it really does seem like Doaba is taking most of the damage. Situation is horrible there, even the countryside is Hindu. At least Majha and Malwa countrysides are still dominated by Sikhs. Outside of Doaba, it is really only Ludhiana (city) and Gurdaspur (district) that hurt Sikh numbers significantly. Ludhiana really is ridiculous, massive growth, of which Sikhs contributed little of.
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  16. There are two factors which has resulted in our demographic decline in proportion to the other communities. One is migration. since 2000, Sikhs have migrated to the west in huge numbers. Canada, US, Australia and Italy has seen their Sikh population grow at the expense of Punjab. Two, The thing that makes it worse is that Sikhs have one of lowest fertility rates of all the religious communities of India. Our negative fertility rate has resulted in our demographic decline. When the Jathadar of Akal Takh suggested Sikhs should have more kids, he was ridiculed and insulted by Sikhs. Even on this
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  17. So then why also tie a "rakhri"? Also, not surprised that Preet liked your post. Also how is it the philosophy of Guru Gobind Singh ji?
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  18. Fateh Just to highlight a few points: - In Hinduism, even today it not permitted to marry outside your caste (i.e. Pandit to Pandit). - In Muslim religion, If a Muslim marries into another religion, the partner will need to make a promise to bring the children according to Islam. - In christanity, Marriage outside the catholic church is a sin. - In Parsi,..... same - In Jews,...... Same..... every religion is the same… exempting buddhism where the views of Mahatma Gautam towards marriage in whole are somewhat different. (No disrespect intended). So what the h*LL is wrong with our lot? W
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  19. Communities have always segregated themselves one way or another. What is stopping one person from one caste going to a Gurdwara that is commitee controlled by another caste. I think a lot of this use of caste is a load of whole huey that somehow this causing a decline. A lot of people think that the rise of the Deras us due to caste discrimination. How does the average poor Sikh from a disadvantaged social standing get shut out of the Gurdwara? Does the Granthi decline Ardaas,does the Giani decline to do Akhand Path, does the Granthi prevent them from having a Siropa. If being lower caste i
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  20. They are not being pushed away, they are being given the opportunity to put their ego to one side and join the path of Sikhi, if Anand Karaj is so important to them I'm sure they'll make the required commitment. Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj has already outlined the level of commitment required from those that wish to walk the path of Sikhi "'If you desire to play the game of love, then bring me your head on the palm of your hand, Having stepped on this path, give your head and pay no heed to public attention' (Guru Nanak Dev jee : Guru Granth Sahib Jee) "
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  21. Threads are useless. You can keep the Indian tradition going but change it so that we will actually benefit and be armed instead of having a dozen itchy threads tied on your arm. I respect the tradition, but it should be changed so that it isn't just a thread
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  22. @DTF - On some occasions certain elements of our own are doing all the sabotage that could ever hurt us in the type of situations you've described, whilst the enemy looks on satisfied wondering how it could ever be so easy.
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  23. I did not know my opinion would cause you to reply in such a fainthearted manner? Have I said something too difficult for you to handle? Oooops, I do beg your pardon, for not realizing that! I thought you fully supported opposing opinions and told others off for not having them. You have really got me confused now. You mention some cliches such as 'fragile ego,' 'huge egos,' you wouldn't be referring to yourself by any chance? Of course, there are plenty of nice and caring people out there as well as humble and secure ones, but surely not everyone can be classed as such. There must be so
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  24. Yes I do add Australia and New Zealand to that list, not to mention places in the middle east such as Dubai etc. In fact, we in the UK have had so few newer Sikh immigrants from Punjab compared to places such as Italy and Canada etc that I don't think we here even realise just how many have been leaving Punjab. Just to give an example, during that 10 year period, Italy alone has had 100,000 Sikh immigrants from Punjab. When we embark on a blame game its really easy to point the finger at things like drugs and the right wing Hindu agenda but the fact is the root of the problem lies very much
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  25. When you factor in the massive amount of Indian labourers we Sikhs ourselves have had to bring in to Punjab to work our fields and the massive amount of Sikh emigration to places such as Canada, America and Italy (and to a smaller extent UK) from Punjab in the last decade I think we have to look at the tiny 3% drop in our population and be quite relieved and admit that it isn't half as bad as we feared. Could have been alot worse. So, in actual fact, a very positive result. No need for negativity at all on this thread.
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  26. One day you will know the answer. by that time it will be to late. why risk everything for one person? Is that how powerful another person is. You need to be strong not weak. No one is worth that.
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  27. It is, but it's been going on amongst Sikhs for God knows how long. It's a residual cultural practice that our lot can't seem to relinquish for various reasons. It's more than fine for others to continue this tradition considering it's part and parcel of the fabric of their culture IMO. It's nothing to get too upset about i think.
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  28. Veer im not swearing at you or anyone. I apologise if thats how it has come across. My point is, that every good that this ragi has done throughout his life is being forgotten over an accusation. We're jumping to conclusions based on a 5min clip
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  29. I think your parents are the only two people that can best answer your question. People on this forum are very helpful, they will answer your question, no doubt about it but, their answers will not have any impact on you. Why? The answer is very simple. We listen to those that we love, respect and know especially when they happen to be our parents. Strangers don't have the same impact on us as our parents or loved ones do. You claim you are aware of the history between religions then why are you so 'baffled' at your parents decision not to accept this muslim man? What does this mean?
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  30. Prophets, gods, devtas... are just to bring righteousness in this world to an extent only. But if we ever want to know what God wants to tell us, it is only by Bhagats, Gurmukhs and Guru Sahibans, that we can get direct and accurate information or gyan from God, untill we grow spiritually wise and become one with God.... till then we have to rely only on Gurbani. God can never ever forbid somethings to some, and allow others to do the same. This is all manmat, moorakhta, agyanta. Of the islam I do not have much knowledge, so I can not quote anything to prove the the Truth on this topic;
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  31. Let me explain this by the caste division system.As you know there are 4 classes of people divided: 1)kshatriyas 2)brahmans 3)shudars 4)vaishyas Kshatriyas were the people who managed the empire (i.e kingdom),they were the kings.They also used to eat meat.But in Sri dasam granth some of them are said to be of high spirituality and resulting in "mukti". Some havans done by Brahmans also needed animal sacrifices too.Animal sacrifice is also related to the victory of goddess Durga on the demons. Sikhi is made by combining 4 classes(kshatriyas,brahmans,shudars,vaishyas) into a single person
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  32. If you're going to come onto a SIKH forum seeking answers to questions, you're going to have to stop referring to Guru Granth Sahib Jee as a "sikh bible".
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