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I have recently started to study Gurbani, am amazed at the wealth of knowledge and wisdom I am gathering. Should have began doing it long ago, unfortunately my parents have lost the way and never encouraged me to study when I was young. These past couple years since COVID have been rough, and reading this has really helped me mentally. I stumbled upon this and am not sure what to make of it. It really sounds sort of like the times we are living in now... Interested to hear how the community here interprets this. What does it mean? ਕਲਿ ਹੋਈ ਕੁਤੇ ਮੁਹੀ ਖਾਜੁ ਹੋਆ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ॥ ਕੂੜੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਬੋਲਿ ਭਉਕਣਾ ਚੂਕਾ ਧਰਮੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, people have faces like dogs; they eat rotting carcasses for food. They bark and speak, telling only lies; all thought of righteousness has left them. (Ang 1242, SGGS)

https://b-ok.cc/book/1111465/29cd97?id=1111465&secret=29cd97 Just started reading this brilliantly researched historical book. It’s about the British Empire so I think it is relevant to Sikh history. This ebook site has tons of free books btw, including lots about Sikhs.

I love you Watch the movie chaar sahibzaade, read jeevan of sants, and shaheeds. Channel the emotion towards how special opportunity you got. You got a chance at Sikhi only because countless died for it. Remember them, pray for strength like they had The only reason you fall is because you’re trying in the first place. It’s never too late. Test of faith can be brutal but love for Guru Ji carries you through Review what people to keep in your life and those to remove. Do seva of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and his sangat. Beg Guru Sahib Ji to let you taste the anand of his charan.

It's not sexist. The Sikh male, if he's interested in perpetuating his culture and religion, has the ability to create and raise more like himself. The Sikh woman, 99% of the time, has to raise children of her man's background unless she's found a total pyjama to dominate. Even in the first instance, I see too many Sikh guys getting with non-Sikh women, and raising completely secular kids almost as if they're trying to placate the woman without her prompting. Sikhs guys AND girls are the first to jettison their beliefs in a mixed relationship. I guess it goes back to that thing I was saying about foundations not having had time to take hold.

I don’t want to sound sexist, but I don’t think it’s the same when a Singh marries an outsider compared to a Kaur. ?

If u hv solar farm, u can earn money by selling electricity to the punjab govt. If u use solar panel on the roof top of ur house, u can't earn money but u can make ur electricity bill zero or close to zero.

No Solar panels, solar geysers and solar inverters r being used successfully in Ludhiana but not to the extent they shud be used as people are reluctant to make the initial investment. Same people hv no problem spending lots of money on cars, phones etc.

Yes. It is talking about the yug which is ongoing - Kalyug. Satyug, Tretayug, Dwaparyug & Kalyug This is the cycle this universe goes thru.. Kalyug is the end and it restarts with Satyug Found the definitions from other sources below.... Satyug = Full Spiritual world. No Evil/Maya in this yug. Tretayug = Slight Spiritual decline. Dwaparyug = 50/50 population decline in spirituality Kalyug = Full blown Spiritual decline with our own mind and war with evil within oneself (whole population affected). Currently we are in Kalyug and this is how it will transition to Satyug through an apocalypse/self-destruction

Could be. She seemed out of his league, if her picture is an accurate indication of her true appearance. It's telling that she was all over him when he was reeling in the dough, but when he loses his job and hits hard times, she ends up going off the deep end with affairs and whatnot. Remember, gentlemen, your value as man is limited to your earnings and your physical usefulness to your dependents. As long as you're on your feet and you're providing, you're an awesome guy. Something unfortunate rears its head in your life? "Fo*k y*u, where's the money?" Take care of yourself, fellers, because nobody else gives a tatti. ??

You should read the Rahao, it should give you context of what is being said and the meaning.

Many haryana jaats hv become Saabat surat. Some hv become amritdhari and one Naveen Singh has become Nihang. But many are becoming sehajdhari and slowly adopting Sikhi customs. https://www.facebook.com/100050850813377/posts/412811023757255/

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Our lot are asleep to this. We should be preparing for possibilities.

You're so bang on with this. It isn't going to go away. And the government wouldn't mind the sacrifices of a few people to foster 'unity' in a nation where that is on the decline - especially Boris who imagines himself a Churchill. The blown up guy was from Syria. The west made such a mess in the mideast, of course they'll be big big mad. Having grown up when the IRA campaign was going on here, I find it telling that these lot fighting today, do not hesitate to specifically target women. First that Ariana Grande concert, now this, a women's hospital with lots of new borns. I can only think that the motivation might be twisted revenge for the females and children killed in their original place of origin? Also, this guy was smart in how he avoided the radar by even converting to Christianity over here. Oh well, in this case the plan literally blew up in his face. Hmmmmmm.......... Will this ever end?

Not all eco villages are totally off grid. Not all eco villages are in secluded places. Some are near to cities as well.

Bro their momentum is not going to stop regardless of what western policies emerge, or occupations shift. They're one deluded, and two big big mad for good reason. Any monetary gain or breathing room is going to used for them to push harder. The world governments would have to go after their backers, but it's too lucaritive and empowering for governments to have terrorists to make a show of fighting to keep the sheeple sheeping.

Living off-grid is tough but good for both self-soul and earth. There are two types of folks who prefer to live off-grid: 1. Serious interest in saving planet 2. Doing it for your own life to live off-screen and materialist world If i have a choice to pick, it would be # 2.

He should’ve divorced his wife when he found out he was gay.

Confirmed: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10203173/Moment-Poppy-Day-car-bomb-EXPLODES-Video-shows-taxi-stop-outside-Liverpool-Womens-Hospital.html I don't even know what these lot are fighting for anymore. The west has left Afghanistan but I don't know what the score is in Libya/Iraq etc.

Doing pooja of Sidhu Moosewala.

This is quite interesting. While the Gurus taught us that our background was of less importance than what our actions and beliefs are, they never taught that we should actively hate our background. If people like Daily want to eradicate caste based discrimination then they need to understand what is caste and what is clan. It is easy for non-Jats to relegate their background and forget or even hate their own background because that background was always steeped in caste. The vast majority of non-Jats' ancestors suffered from caste based discrimination (apart from those Sikhs from the Khatri background) so they naturally want to forget their background and it is easy for them to do so. But for Jats, it's different, our background is a part of our everyday life especially in rural Punjab. In any Punjabi village the Jats are all be related to each other because they are all descendants of a common ancestor or family group that founded the village many hundreds of years ago. This is what is called patti in the village, a village could have two or three pattis. The next few villages around any particular village will also have been branches of the same family group. So if you live in the village your ancestral line is all around you and because your ancestors were never oppressed by the caste society and because they never wanted to be a part of the Manuvadi system then there is no great need to look down on your ancestors. Apart from a few villages who were founded by the same family group, you will also have a place which could be many miles away called your Jathera which is the original place from where your known ancestor came from. The Gills will have their own Jathera, the Dhillons will have their own etc. Each Jat clan will have their own Jathera. So just as in many societies the knowledge of who your ancestors were is important and is passed down through the generations this is also what is passed down in each Punjab village. I doubt Daily could look back to more than 3-4 generations of his family, but because of the structure of the Jat village, I could possibly go back 10-15 generations quite easily. My own village, a village of Dhillon Jats was founded over 400 years ago, we know that the founding family of this village came from a village about 5 kms away to found this village. So as well as knowing that all the Jats in the village who are Dhillons are all descendants of a common ancestor of mine, I know that in the village 5 kms away we can find the descendants of our common ancestor's ancestors! So this shows how ingrained the clan and family descent is in Jats. What other person could go back to their village and know that 50-60% of a village of some 3000 people are all related to him and then the surrounding villages of similar numbers are also related to him? And then if you want to even go back further, your very clan name links you to relatives who might live hundreds of miles away but who also have the same clan name. Dhillons are found in our Punjab, West Punjab, Haryana, Western UP and some parts of Rajasthan and Madhya Pardesh. All these Dhillon are the descendants of either one common ancestor or a family group going back over a thousand if not more years. All the above which might be boring for non-Jats but which forms a large part of what the tribal identity of a Jat is. You can either negate all this and want Jats to disregard their clan identity because you believe that it is a caste and just the fact that he has an interest in his clan is tantamount to him being a casteist or you can understand what the attachment of a Jat is to his clan and accept that as long as his clan or tribe does not discriminate against any of Sikh then this does not make his a casteist. On a last point, I very much doubt that Daily who seem to be an expert on Jats known even 10% of what I wrote above, so in many way we can put his rants into that context.

As someone who has never been to Punjab let alone lived there, how the hell does your badmouthing Jats at every opportunity become a one man crusade to eradicate caste? You eradicate caste by treating everyone as equal both in real life and in whatever media you contribute to. But all I have seen in over a decade has been you bringing in Jats into every thread, while this is certainly a unique skill that you seem to have acquired, you would be deluded if you think such acts are fighting caste. All you are doing is inflaming and dividing Sikhs by your constant drudging up the filth of caste. You don't have a clue about the rural culture of Punjab and your only knowledge of Punjab villages come from the sensational news you read or the bukwas put up on social media or some idiotic Punjabi singer singing about how great Jats are. Once again, Jats do not go around raping Dalit girls which seems to be an image that is burned into your mind. Punjab was never and will never be the Punjab which your deluded and misinformed mind has created.

Well...like the man said...cocaine brings out the gay in me...yep..had to double check.. that's what he said.

Plenty Mone become Sardaars. Bhai Jagraj Singh from BOS is one.

Yes there have been jatts like KPS Gill and Bear. Do you know why? Because it takes a Sikh to take out a Sikh. To take out a Jatt, you use a Jatt. I am not responsible for Gill or Brar. Brar came to London, you know who tried to take him out, other Jatts! Of the Kharkoo movement and the hundred of thousands that went missing, the majority were Jat. You got it the wrong way around: For every KPS Gill and Brar, there are thousands of Jats that are in the opposite camp. You are another insecure non Jat. Your Sikhi is not strong enough to get over your inferiority complex.

Bumping this https://www.1984tribute.com/shaheed-jathedar-pritam-singh-sekhon/ Shaheed Jathedar Pritam Singh Sekhon MOVEMENT, SHAHEEDS Shaheed Jathedar Pritam Singh Sekhon Khalistan Liberation Force Jabai Baan Laagiyo, Tabai Ros Jaagiyo When the arrow struck, the wrath was awoken Toward the later stages of the armed movement, the Khalistan Liberation Force was putting up its final stand and their actions were growing more and more daring and innovative, resulting in sleepless nights for those sitting at the Central government throne in Delhi. In these days the name of Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon frequently featured in the headlines of the daily newspapers. Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon was born in 1959 to Sardar Ajaib Singh and Mata Gurnam Kaur in village Dulma Khurd, Tehsil Malerkotla, District Sangrur. Bhai Sahib was the youngest of 5 children (with 4 elder sisters). Bhai Sahib gets his title “Doctor Sekhon” as he had completed a course in veterinary science from Punjab Agricultural University, Ludhiana where Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu was also a student. Dr Sekhon was later employed as a Veterinary Surgeon at Verka in Amritsar district before joining the freedom struggle. It is often asked what made such bright, intellectual, professional and forward thinking Sikhs take up arms and tread on the arduous path ahead, instead of pursuing their careers and fulfilling their prosperous futures. In Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon’s case, a Doctor from a wealthy background, it was not much different to the example of a poor Sikh villager and much like thousands of others, it was the 1984 Indian army assault on Sri Harmandir Sahib. The impact of the attack had a profound effect on Dr Sekhon, comparing it to previous events in Sikh history such as the Ahmed Shah Abdali attack on Sri Harmandir Sahib and the Sikh Nation. Dr Sekhon knew the only way to punish those responsible and prevent future atrocities, was to pick up arms and participate in the Sikh freedom movement. After meeting with other leaders of the Khalistan movement, Dr Sekhon became fully pledged to the cause. Many Sikh freedom fighters visited his accommodations regularly, where deep and serious talks began to take place. After this he became acquainted with Bhai Daljeet Singh Bittu, Shaheed General Labh Singh and Bhai Paramjit Singh Panjwar as well as many others. Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon fully entered the Khalistan movement and very soon “Sekhon Sekhon” was on the lips of people all over Punjab. The militant actions planned and carried out by Dr Sekhon were hot topics in colleges, universities and villages across Punjab. The legendary status of Dr Sekhon was as such that people of Punjab often made requests to known associates of his for just a glimpse of this brave General. The police first suspected Dr Sekhon’s activities in 1988 when he was connected to the assassination of a corrupt anti-Sikh MP, Satpal Prashar. Conducting their investigations the police and intelligence agencies came to realise that Dr Sekhon was an active member of the Khalistan Liberation Force. He had completed this action having concealed the gun in bedclothes and was often jokingly teased by his comrades about it. Dr Sekhon was very close to Bhai Paramjit Singh Panjwar (KCF), Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu (SSF), Shaheed, and Bhai Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala (KLF) and also worked alongside Shaheeds such as Bhai Mathra Singh, Bhai Kanwarjit Singh Sultanwind, Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda and Bhai Charanjit Singh Channi. Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon spoke very little and refrained from making public announcements or issuing press releases, personal glory was not on Dr Sekhon’s agenda. This was re-iterated by many who spent time with him and also by the assistant editor of Punjabi Tribune, Karamjit Singh who had the opportunity of meeting Dr Sekhon. Karamjit Singh writes: “Dr Sekhon was one of those special Khadku’s whom can be counted on one hand, who without any hunger for fame would silently work toward achieving their goal.” Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon spent a lot of his time isolated in Simran, he could sit for seven to eight hours in one sitting in the boiling hot summer, unaffected by the heat, and would recite Gurbani. Those who had the opportunity to meet Bhai Sahib were often left astonished that this kind-hearted, soft spoken and humble person was described as one of the most dangerous Generals of the Khalistan movement. Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon was tall 6’ 2” and had a very good build. He used to regularly exercise and was physically very fit. Dr Sahib used to encourage the other Singh‘s to train and encouraged weight lifting. He would say, “If I slapped someone they would never get up again!” Dr Sekhon was an action-oriented man, whose actions on the battlefield spoke volumes and it was due to these traits that he was immensely popular amongst all militant groups as well as the masses of Punjab. Elimination of Major BN Kumar In September 1988 the state of Punjab faced a flood crisis and to make matters worse the Bhakra Dam gates were intentionally opened, releasing water from the reservoir. More than 600 people were killed in the flooding, which displaced tens of thousands more, destroyed crops and farm machinery worth millions of pounds in India’s most prosperous state, Punjab. Furthermore there were threats that such action, to open the Bhakra Dam gates could be repeated on a larger scale to wipe out the Sikh population of the area in retaliation to growing popularity and success of the Sikh freedom movement against the government. The Jhujaru Singh’s held Major General B.N. Kumar, the army appointed chairman of Bhakra Beas Management Board (BBMB) personally responsible and put him to justice just one month later. Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon led the unit of Singhs responsible and was credited for this action. Rajiv Longowal accord On July 23, 1985 the Akali leaders had betrayed the Sikh quam by signing the Rajiv-Longowal accord, which was a watered down version of the Anandpur Sahib Resolution. Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale had repeatedly stated in his speeches, if any Sikh leader accepts any sort of deal offered by the government, which was anything less than the demands of the Anandpur Sahib Resolution, that leader should not be associated with. The words of Sant Jarnail Singh were still echoing in the minds of the Sikh youth, and within 25 days of signing the accord, traitor Harchand Longowal was finished by Bhai Gian Singh and Bhai Harwinder Singh Billa. Another key figure in this treacherous deal was the former Finance Minister Balwant ‘Ladoo’, it was now his turn to pay for his betrayal. As soon as the Khalistan Liberation Force formed in late 1986, Balwant ‘Ladoo’ made his way onto the hit list. According to an article in Awaze Kaum (Jan 1986), “Khalistan Liberation Force issued a statement in which they said the killers of Sikh youth who are also responsible for disrespecting places of worship, Surjit Barnala, Balwant Ladoo and Julio Francis Rebeiro have been declared wanted by the Sarkar-e-Khalsa.” The statement was signed by Bhai Aroor Singh, Bhai Manjit Singh Khujala, Bhai Avtar Singh Brahma, Bhai Durga Singh and Bibi Bhag Kaur. The day finally came, on July 10, 1990 at 2pm between sector 20 and sector 30 in Chandigarh. A white Maruti carrying four Jhujarus of the Khalistan Liberation Force, including Dr Sekhon, parked up alongside the minister’s car. The Singh Soorme jumped out like lions and opened fire using AK-47’s which resulted in the death of Balwant ‘Ladoo’. This action shook the central government because they were surprised that the Khalistani’s managed to assassinate him in broad daylight. Whilst Dr Sekhon was serving in the movement the police targeted his family increasingly as his reputation grew. Bhai Pritam Singh’s mother, sisters, brother in law and many other relatives were also continually harassed and tortured by the security forces, this was a tactic used in order to test Bhai Sahib’s resilience. However, Bhai Sahib remained steadfast and did not retract an inch from his resolve. Bhai Sahib had surrendered himself to Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the father of the Sikh faith. Bhai Sahib’s number one priority remained with the progress of the Sikh Nation and considered all others secondary to his mission. This was echoed in Dr Sekhon’s words to his sister before going underground “Upon taking Amrit this head was offered to the Guru, the body belongs to the Sikh Nation, to sacrifice mind and body is now my duty’ During this time, Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda and Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sukha were also to be given the death penalty. Bhai Gurjant Singh knew that the Panth could not afford to lose such diamonds as these two Singhs and they had to be saved by any means necessary. Even though they belonged to Khalistan Commando Force, Bhai Gurjant Singh decided that they had to be released and had made plans to kidnap a high rank member of the Congress party. However, when a message was sent to Bhai Jinda and Bhai Sukha about the plan, they sent a message back to Bhai Gurjant Singh that they were grateful for his dedication to the struggle, but they wanted to give Shaheedi just as Bhai Taru Singh Ji had done for the benefit of the Panth. Liviu Radu The Khalistan Liberation Force had established itself as one the most active freedom fighter groups in India. The Singhs realised that that they had to do something big to gain international media coverage of the atrocities that were being carried out upon the Sikhs. They did not want to do something that could damage the movement but needed an action that could get the right attention. If they kidnapped an Indian it would not get the coverage needed, so that they had to find someone who was an important figure but from abroad. Furthermore, Bhai Jaswinder Singh and Bhai Pargat Singh had been arrested in Romania for the attempted assassination of former Punjab DGP Julio Francis Rebeiro and the Singhs wanted to secure their release. The Romanian Ambassador, Liviu Radu, was the perfect target as the Singhs realised that only a foreign dignitary would be honest enough to convey their message once released. The one advantage they had was their “Engineering Cell”. The cell would plan highly risky and dangerous missions and would be in charge of the planning and execution of the difficult mission that lay ahead of them. On the 9th October 1991 at 8.10am, the Khalistan Liberation Force under the command of Jathedar Gurjant Singh kidnapped the Romanian Ambassador, Liviu Radu. Radu was on his way to the Romanian embassy office at Vasant Vihar in Delhi in his black Dacia sedan car. He was abducted a quarter of a mile from his home by Dr Sekhon, Bhai Navneet Singh Kaddian and three other Jujharoos. Whilst Radu was in the care of the Khalistan Liberation Force, he explained that he suffered from heart problems and required his medication. The Singhs were concerned for Radu’s health and sent Bhai Devpal Singh MA to make phone call to Radu’s wife to find out what medication he took. Bhai Devpal Singh MA was surrounded by the Police whilst making the call from a Delhi phone booth to the Radu’s residence. Upon his apprehension, he produced a revolver and began shooting at the Police to secure his escape. In the encounter that entailed, Bhai Devpal Singh MA joined the Shaheeds of the Khalsa Panth. The Singhs never kept Radu in the same place for more than six days and they made sure armed guards kept watch twenty four hours a day. Whilst moving him, Radu would be blind folded but never harmed. The Khalistan Liberation Force made sure they treated Radu well. In the circumstances, he became more like a friend to the Singhs than a hostage, and they started to call him “Uncle”. This is the compassion of the Khalsa, they would try and meet his every need, bringing him English newspapers to read and even a television to watch to pass time. This was later reiterated by Radu in his press conference. At night, the Singhs would always bring him warm milk, after drinking it, they would say “Uncle, more milk?” and he would laugh and say “Hanji”. Radu started to befriend the Singhs and even started to speak Panjabi. Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon, who was one of the masterminds of the “Engineering Cell” was fluent in speaking English, and would speak to Radu for hours on end normally until midnight. He once even introduced Radu to Bhai Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala and explained that this was their Chief. Dr Pritam Singh educated Radu about the Khalistan movement, the broken promises given to the Sikhs, the 1984 Holocaust, the genocide on the Sikhs and of the rapes and torture that was taking place on innocent civilians throughout India. Radu became distraught by what India was doing and could not understand why the international community was ignoring the plight of the Sikhs. At the same time, the Indian government had already started spreading fabricated stories and propaganda against the Singhs. Government sanctioned gangs had been tasked with discrediting the popularity of the Singhs. The government controlled media called the Singhs “vicious terrorists” and said they had already killed Radu. At this point the Khalistan Liberation Force released a photo with Radu showing him alive. From the outset, the Khalistan Liberation Force had no intention of killing Radu. However, the Indian government had no value for Radu let alone those of the Singh’s on death row. Radu himself realised that if anyone wanted him dead, it wasn’t the Singhs but the Indian government. It would be in India’s advantage if he was killed as they could then demonise the Jujharu’s. Radu started to become worried but Dr Pritam Singh reassured him and said “We will die, but we will never let you die”. Many thought Radu had been killed but he was released unharmed on 26 November 1991. When he was released, Radu had a small beard and had tied a turban. On reaching his residence, the guard did not at first recognise him and was shocked because he looked like a Sikh. Only on producing his ID card was it that the guard realised that it really was Radu. In a public press conference Radu said; “The freedom fighters that kidnapped me treated me very well, they made sure I had no problems and never threatened to kill me.” When asked, if he was grateful to anyone he replied; “I am thankful to everyone but especially to those freedom fighters. Whatever is being spread about them is false. They looked after my health. I am a heart patient and they made sure I received all my medication. They bought me newspapers to read and even provided a television to pass time. They would always speak to me. They would cook me nice food.” At this point his wife, Katrina Radu laughed and said; “He was thin before staying with the freedom fighters. He has now got a belly!” Radu carried on and said; “I cannot say that the people that kidnapped me are terrorists. They are just fighting for their freedom. They want freedom for their people. They do not want to take any ones freedom away from them. These freedom lighters are always meditating on God and ask for the benefit of all in their daily prayers.” It was a massive victory for the Khalsa Panth to keep Radu for 48 days and get the media coverage the Sikhs needed. India had spread so much hate and propaganda about the Singhs, but here was Radu and his family thanking the Khalistan Liberation Force. The Indian government had been embarrassed throughout the worldwide media. It thought that by not meeting the demands of the Singhs, India had won, but instead the Khalistan Liberation Force had been one step ahead of India and their master plan to gain coverage global media coverage of the brutal genocide being carried on the Sikhs had been a success. After his release Radu wanted to go back Romania, as he no longer felt safe in India. This was not because of the Singhs but because he felt the malicious Indian government would too kill him in a fake encounter. Chief of Khalistan Liberation Force After the Shaheedi of Bhai Gurjant Singh Ji, Dr Sekhon was appointed the Jathedar of KLF. He re-arranged the Khalistan Liberation Force into smaller cells. These would only have four or five members; the cells would continue to work under the command of Dr Sekhon but there was to be little communication between the cells. This made it near impossible for the cells to be infiltrated and ensured the safety of each cell, should a member be arrested he would have no further information to reveal on the other active cells. The struggle for justice continued following the Shaheedi of many top ranked Singhs in the movement with the Khalistan Liberation Force remaining one of the strongest and most active even in the final stages. Other action of Dr Sekhon The elimination of Judge R.P Gaind who paid to have innocent Sikhs killed, issued harsh sentences to them and granted police remand without any sufficient evidence. The Thanedar of Sadar who had the blood of Sikhs on his hands was duly punished. At first Dr Sekhon set fire to a shop as a decoy and upon the arrival of the Thanedar he was gunned down on the spot. Shiv Sena leader Jagdish Tanghri who was given protection by the government was admitted to the top floor of Dayanand Medical Hospital for treatment. Dr Sekhon along with two other Singhs entered the hospital, disguised as Doctors on the pretence of bringing in a patient. They reached the top floor and eliminated the Shiv Sena leader. They then calmly made their exit along with the assault rifles grabbed from the leader’s bodyguards. In 1993, Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon went to America to drop off his wife and son to safety. Whilst he was away Bhai Navneet Singh Kaddian was appointed acting General of the Khalistan Liberation Force. Dr Sekhon had settled his family abroad and was ready to return to the battlefield. The KLF Singhs persuaded Dr Sekhon not to return to Punjab because the terrorist Indian government had intensified its search for the last of the Khalistani Generals. The Singhs felt his leadership skills were too important so he continued to command the Khalistan Liberation Force from a neighbouring country of India. According to Christine Fair, the author of Urban Battlefields of South Asia: “The KLF was responsible for a number of innovations. It preferred using vehicles with more space for transporting weapons and explosives that could easily be concealed: The Ambassador car was a weapon of choice. Among their cadres was an expert in bomb construction. The KLF took advantage of India’s geography to operate and would coordinate its actions by phone in places as remote as Gujarat and Maharashtra. As the KLF was a well-educated group, it developed a coded communications system for communication both within and outside the country.” Dr Pritam Singh Sekhon commanded the Khalistan Liberation Force with great valour and humility. Due to his intelligence the KLF managed to continue its armed struggle, even during the dark days of the evil Chief Minister Beanta’s regime. The KLF continued the armed struggle for independence under Dr Sekhon’s leadership until the late 90’s. Dr Sekhon breathed his last breath in March 1999 and went down in history as one of the most intelligent Khalistani freedom fighters. If his contribution to the war on terrorism committed by the Indian government was to be defined by one word, it would be MASTERMIND.

This is a CIA backed project to divide Sikhs from Hindus and other religions in order to allow Islam to flourish. Part of Ghazwe e Hind and the NWO, intended to destroy Dharmic religions and India. The locals and elderly are very well aware of the mischief of Westerners to destroy their religion and culture. I mean why don't they write about the violence of the Muslims the world over and in various parts of India, unless there is a concerted agenda, backed by the UN itself. Otherwise why would a political party reward violent protesters with 2 lakh rupees as if the mission was successful?

What we see as "Punjabi " culture is not really Punjabi culture is appropriated culture . Moosawallah types have appropriated a lot crass parts of hip-hop culture and incorporated into Punjabi culture. What is deemed as "Jatt Culture" is rural culture. Punjabi culture is seen as a rural culture and the reason it is pre-dominant is because there is no real Urban culture. Also, mass commercialisation has amplified this. The Urban culture disappeared mostly during partition time. Lahore was probably where the Urban part of Punjabi culture came from. The Lahori urban culture went to places like Delhi and Mumbai. What you see in Bollywood from last 6 or 7 decades are made up of Urban Hindu Khatris from Lahore. You could say that Jatt culture is bhangra culture but a lot of the music came from Mirasi types. Dancing is traditionally seen as quite wussy by traditional Jatt. Bhangra culture as I see it kind of had it's centre of gravity in the UK, however this has now shifted to Punjab and maybe Canada. What you are beginning to see emerge is regional culture in India. Nobody watches Bollywood anymore and Punjabis will prefer to watch Gippy Grewal film over one by Karan Johar. Though I bore of his films because it is all about desi /pardesi and I cannot relate to it because my family has not lived in Punjab for 4-5 generations. Some of this Punjabi film culture is still in it's infancy stage and is finding it's way and asserting it's identity. However over time, this will diversify itself as taste changes. I think that the UK Punjabis are quite over saturated with this stuff and this relates more to the newer fresher migrants. The parts of Punjabi culture that attract me are the parts that relate to Sikhi and the reason is because I see it as authentic. If I get the zeitgeist as Sikh of UK Punjabi heritage is that we attracted to authenticity and that is what we are looking for. UK Sikhs of Punjabi heritage do not like what is coming out of Punjab because we see it for what it is. We lived with commercialisation, we've lived with black culture and white culture. Been there, done that, worn the t-shirt. I as a UK Sikh of Punjabi heritage who has a Jat background see that my subsection has decline in what happens in the larger Sangat and diaspora. I think MANY of the UK Sikh Punjabi who has multi-generational roots will PROBABLY agree with what I have had to articulate here. They will intuitively understand what I have tried to say. If there are the likes of Premi5 who deliberately try to contrary to what I have to say, then I suggest you read my post again. Otherwise you just don't get it.

As a Jatt, there are things about fellow Jatts, particularly in the Entertainment industry that make me cringe. I am not a fan of Jazzy B/Moosawallah / Honey Singh types. I despise the peasant /noveau riche type bling bling type. However for every one of those crass Jats you have a Gippy Grewal/Ammy Virk/ Diljit Dosanjh types (though I am not a big fan of those guys either) In the 90's, I could not stand the Spice Girls and I switched the channel or radio. That is why in the west they have a mainstream and an alternative scene. I suggest you guys go alternative and create a separate scene.

If you look at her films they always protray the Indian/ asian males in a very negative roles and poor light and the so called "oppressed" indian asian woman in a postive light. She herself is from a Sikh family yet married a non-sikh latino guy...Her film bend it like beckham made fun of a traditional Sikh family and promoted a Sikh girl who went against her family. Bride and prejudice promoted an indian girl (ash rai) and white male love story where is the Indian male in positive light? There is none because its a wider agenda to hate on her own race of men. And her new tv show on Sky living has all muslim male asian guys messing and having fun with promiscuous mostly hindu sikh girls. Why hasnt she promoted any asian muslim females with indian hindu sikh guys with them? surely isnt to hard to cast fit and funny guys from her own community why does she have to promote guys from islam and other non-sikh backgrounds. Why is it always the indian hindu and sikh males are pushed to the back of the que in media roles. especially dissappointing from Gurinderh chadhi who cant even see that she is promoting guys not from her heritage in some sort of self hating agenda.

If you are the moderator then you need to pull your finger out. No-one regardless of what background brings up caste but one poster. If you can ban Jagsaw, I suggest you do the same to Dally. He has been playing mischief on this forum for years and you have allowed him to get away with it.

Not until caste based reservations have been stopped.

Controversial opinion: Do you guys really think that Jattism is the biggest problem our quom has? Like, seriously? If anything, this strange glorification is making more and more people aware of Punjabi issues. Yh, true, a lot of these songs are just plain gandh and promote a decadent lifestyle but we have rare songs where our history is shown (even Moosewala made those type of songs). I really like Jass Bajwa and Shree Brar for example. Are lower castes in Punjab converting to Christianity because of Jattism or are they converting bc our political bodies in general are disorganised? Why aren't Sikh organisations going around and doing parchar and making sure Christian missionaries don't use sneaky and dishonest tactics to convert Sikhs? Is this really because of Jatts? Where are the Nihangs? Where is all the money that Sikhs abroad send to Punjab really going to? If anything I think our quom has been hijacked by a group of predatory leaders. We need to remove these clowns first. We also need to worry about our decreasing birth rate and lack of Sikhi awareness in the youth: yes, it's not just Jatts that are unaware it's literally people from all 'castes'.

See. He knows how to keep his mouth shut. Lol. I was jumping out the car to go into the store. I meant @shastarSingh

This is what starts happening when our entire media is centred around Jattism. Every singer is singing about being a Jatt. There are large numbers of people in the west who are not even aware that other castes exist. lol.

Literally no one cares about caste in real life. Most western Sikhs don't even mention it. For some reason casteism turns really ugly online or when it comes to seeking rishteh. Although it's true that Jatts are the biggest offenders, I see morons all the time on social media with JATT in their bios or whatever, it's cringe. I even see Jatt license plates.

I only really here about caste on the media, never irl. I know what my ancestors were, but it doesn't really impact me at all in the slightest today.

LOL thanks. I think most on here have a negative view of Hindu Punjabi's based on bad experiences and those Punjabi Hindus's back in India who would rather uphold Hindi as the main language over Punjabi.I have met those people back in India and they dont like me at all as I will always speak Punjabi over Hindi. However they are many Hindu punjabi's that will fully embrace Punjabi culture and language. My family are like that and I would say we go the Gudwara more so then we got to Mandir. I dont know many Hindu Punjabis outside my family but the ones I have spoken to seem aged between 20-37 are atheist and dont care about religion at all. Their is this gay Punjabi Bharmin at my workplace who unfortunately shares the same surname as me . He told me that he does not care about religion at all and its all about business and work for him and his family lol. atleast he can speak good Punjabi i will give him that. But man he is propa gay in terms of his mannerisms. he brings the whole Punjabi alpa male reputation down lol.

Oi 2 wives man.

That is true if we are talking about breaking the "inner" Amrit; but for the "external" Amrit I think that breaks when we do a bhujer Kurehit. Bhul Chuk Maaf Karni.

A bihari boy was suffering from a skin disease. He and his mother used to go to a gursikh doctor for treatment. The doctor was attached to nanaksar samparda and used to take no fees from poor patients. He tried to cure the boy but his medicines were not working. Finally he told the boy to go to a nearby nanaksar gurdwara Sahib and eat the langar there regularly. The langar at this gurdwara Sahib was prepared by Sabat Surat Sikhs reciting gurbani. In a short time the boy was cured of the skin disease.

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Well if understand physics, we can go back in time and change everything

Well quantum physics says different

Thank you for your replies, taking the time out and reading and responding means much to me. I'm 42 not bothered about a wife, however want to have children, I'm so gone thinking about sex, would be cheating BTW I'm Aries very structured to what an Aries is

Why don't you venture into Ecommerce?

To be fair to her she does try to promote Sikh themed heritage where she can. However I suspect the covert racist "white lovies" in the film industry and buddies she hangs around cant wait for the "house negro" to bash her own community men and paint her background in a bad light as possible in her film and productions. And as the white well off folk are her pay masters who have the power to finance the films and TV shows and they only chose those directors who will protray a certain theme that conveys the self hating racist message to asians / indian girls that you will only get far in life if you go against your own community and chose the "white western" way of life.... which in most cases destroys womens ability to form lasting relationships and find true happiness as the atheist/christian western white society these days is selfish very fickle they have no time for sense of community that working class whites had back in the days. They have created this desire in people to just want want want and me me me instant gratification kind of hedonistic consumerist lifestlye hence why so many divorces and food eating disorders and range of problems they wish not to address or never promote the negative traits of western society they created in films because they want to bash the ethnic / religious eastern ways of life more. For them its better to focus and laugh, meddle with and point at the ethnics than themselves and see some of the hypocrisy and true horrors of society the upper/middle class whites have created for everyone with their ill thought out anti-freedom, hypocritical, discriminatory pro feminist legislations and other anti-social agenda's.

Reading above reminds me of the term 'house nigger' and those black africans who sold their own people for slave trade. She suits beat in such category.