is dhunda doing katha in delhi gurudwara anymore?

[GPS]

UK = Thanks for clarifying on the above GPS Paji and confirming that you agree with RSS, Shiv Sena and Arya Samaj on that

RSS, arya samaj does not say that.It is UKLondonRSS who fabricates this.Arya samaj says that Bhagauti in Dasam Granth sahib is devi durga. That is not correct. Their agents who pose as sikhs on sikh forums write things out of context.

You have not been able to show me a single line from Dasam Granth that says that these Rama and krishna are revered. They are condemned in Dasam Granth sahib in the strongest possible language.

Have you any line that reveres these deities in Dasam Granth sahib. If you have show us or say you are in habit of lying.

Let me clarify, RSS in its constitution accepts Guru Granth sahib as a text to be revered and disowns Dasam Granth sahib.That is why when darshan Ragi went to their hq in Nagpur, said that Dasam granth is very critical of Hindu avtars as it shows Krishna as taking liquor in Dasam granth sahib. So he was paying lip service to his bossesof RSS.

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5342

Provoking Hindus Against Sri Dasam Bani

Ragi attempts to instigate Hindu oppsition to Sri Dasam Bani

Being in the RSS heartland, and given protection by Hindu commandos in Pune, the Ragi tried to instigate the local Hindu emotions against Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bani. Why? Because there are passages in 'KrishnaAvtaar' that state Krishna and Arjuna had consumed intoxicants. In the video, Ragi repeatedly pleads to the Hindus in the local sangat and patronizes them as his "Hindu Veer".

"It is obvious that heretic Ragi Darshan is intentionally trying to provoke the situation, even ignoring the facts that the consumption of intoxicants by Krishna and Arjuna is also mentioned in the Hindu Granth, Mahabharata itself, and not just Sri Dasam Granth Sahib."

In regards to drinking in the Mahabharta, the great Buddhist activist and philosopher, Dr. Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar writes:

"Liquors were of two sorts Soma and Sura...Soma was a sacrificial wine. The drinking of the Soma was in the beginning permitted only to Brahmins, Kshatriyas and Vaishyas... Sura was open to all and was drunk by all. The Mahabharat mentions an occasion when both Krishna and Arjuna were dead drunk."

- Revolution and Counter-Revolution in Ancient India

It is clear that Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Bani is simply revealing the truth about these Hindu Avtaars - obviously this is something that can not be fathomed by this heretical Ragi.

[WaljinderSingh]

Uklondon, as you claim to live in the Uk, do you have the guts to meet and discuss with Giani Sher Singh ji Ambala ?

If yes, we can arrange a meeting in the coming days.

[GPS]

I do not think he lives in London. I have big doubts about his identity as is distorting definition of panth and says all kabir panthis rather all Indians are sikhs. He does not seem to know that kabir panthis have other granth of kabir sahib whose contents are not in line with Gurmat.

If he is a real person, he should gladly accept your humble invitation.

I am glad that Giani sher singh ji is visiting you. No one knows Dasam bani better than Nihung singhs.We should remember that all sikhs were Nihungs to begin with.

[tuhintuhin]

You wrote earlier that Dasam granth sahib tells he was durga bhagat.I asked you provide the quote and you kept mum. I have given you quotes from Dasam Granth sahib to prove you a liar.

Guru sahib writes some names in that area and those are still there. Then manuscripts of Dasam granth sahib are there from 1698 AD with Guru sahib's signature and khas patras in it. WE have contemporary authors who quote this bani in their writings. What else you want.

Response

Another big bull by UKlondonsikh.

End of charitropakhayn is chaupai sahib and Guru sahib writes date of completion of charitrapakhayan as below

ਚੌਪਈ ॥

चौपई ॥

CHAUPAI

ਸੰਬਤ ਸੱਤ੍ਰਹ ਸਹਸ ਭਣਿੱਜੈ ॥ ਅਰਧ ਸਹਸ ਫੁਨਿ ਤੀਨਿ ਕਹਿੱਜੈ ॥

स्मबत स्त्रह सहस भणि्जै ॥ अरध सहस फुनि तीनि कहि्जै ॥

It was Bikrami Samvat 1753;

ਭਾਦ੍ਰਵ ਸੁਦੀ ਅਸ਼ਟਮੀ ਰਵਿ ਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਤੀਰ ਸਤੁੱਦ੍ਰਵ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸੁਧਾਰਾ ॥੪੦੫॥

भाद्रव सुदी अशटमी रवि वारा ॥ तीर सतु्द्रव ग्रंथ सुधारा ॥४०५॥

This book was competed on the banks of Sutlej on Sunday, the eighth Sudi of the month of Bhadon.

Charitropakhayan,Dasam Granth sahib

It says year 1753 samvat which comes to 1753-57 = 1696 AD. Guru sahib was born in 1666. That means he was 30 yaers old when he wrote this.

Can you answer UKLOndonsikh ji who told he was 9 years when he wrote this.

to add, we do this path in rehras sahib

[GPS]

Uklondonsikh

I just forget to rebut one of your baseless accusations.You wrote how can Guru sahib write charitropakhayan at age of 9.When you were shown that he was 30 when he wrote charitropakhayan.Charitropakhayan was completed in 1696 AD as written in text itself.

First you blame another singh that you heard from him. After that you write how can he write it in 1696 AD as he was fighting dilawer khan at that time.

First of all dilawer khan never came personally to Anandpur sahib. He sent his son to fight Guru ji in 1695 AD. His son was killed in battlefield. Charitropakhayan was completed in 1696. Recheck your dates before you write samething again and again.

[Jonny101]

Uklondonsikh

I just forget to rebut one of your baseless accusations.You wrote how can Guru sahib write charitropakhayan at age of 9.When you were shown that he was 30 when he wrote charitropakhayan.Charitropakhayan was completed in 1696 AD as written in text itself.

First you blame another singh that you heard from him. After that you write how can he write it in 1696 AD as he was fighting dilawer khan at that time.

First of all dilawer khan never came personally to Anandpur sahib. He sent his son to fight Guru ji in 1695 AD. His son was killed in battlefield. Charitropakhayan was completed in 1696. Recheck your dates before you write samething again and again.

See this is the thing. People who are against Dasam Bani have very superficial knowledge of Dasam Bani to begin with yet they will already make up their mind it is not bani. One must study about a subject before making up their mind on something so important. Even Prof Sahib Singh, Giani Ditt Singh who they claim to follow were firm believers in Dasam Bani. Instead of following these real vidhvaans of the Panth, they prefer to follow Dasvi Paas nakli professors.

[GPS]

This battle with son of dilawer khan Guru sahib lists in his autobiography, Bachitra Natak.

[WaljinderSingh]

[Singh559]

Missionaries keep barking until they see the logic behind their parchar. The best way to look at what their parchar consists of is to look at darshoo's video in Pune, Maharastra (RSS capital) where he is trying to incite RSS and hindus against Dasam Granth Sahib by saying look this Granth has exposed your avtars for being what they really are.

Those with a little sharam stop following missionaries and those who are brainwashed or sold out continue to follow them.

[Jonny101]

Missionaries keep barking until they see the logic behind their parchar. The best way to look at what their parchar consists of is to look at darshoo's video in Pune, Maharastra (RSS capital) where he is trying to incite RSS and hindus against Dasam Granth Sahib by saying look this Granth has exposed your avtars for being what they really are.

Those with a little sharam stop following missionaries and those who are brainwashed or sold out continue to follow them.

I remember that video. Darshan Lal's logic is really mind boggling. On one hand he and his lot say Dasam Bani is supportive of Hindu Dharm and Avtars but at the same time he is inciting the Hindu commandos by saying look how insulting Dasam Bani is to your avtars. When Darshan Lal was younger and was Darshan Singh, he made more sense, believed in Sikh traditions and Dasam Bani but with age he is abandoning it all. Some people get more Sianay with age while some like Darshan Lal turn more moorakh.