Sad news about Deep Sidhu!

[Kau89r8]

@dallysingh101

Idk if you can say this openely but i know some 'gatekeepers' of khalistan in the West, if you say at think critical they will label you rss/ traitor/ sell-outs..

But when i started paying interest to other conflicts, history, how the world works (esp Jews)...you start reviewing things differently...what could have be done different during that time? If there was deal negotiations behind the scenes should they have take it..so on..its does not make me anti-Khalsa, Sant Ji or wanting Sikh homeland..but with all this bloodshed and ready to die to this kaum ..something we are going wrong somewhere...maybe this is the lack of intellect leaders in our kaum...them more we die = the better they win

World i not black and white..India is puppet of globalization anyway, WTO, one world banking, UN...

Got to learn how to swim with the sharks then against it.. imo

 

[Kau89r8]

42 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Part of me isn't surprised. It was chaotic back then. Even people in the UK publicising the kharku lehar were getting executed on the street. 

Did you ever read Cythnia Mahmood's critical reflection on the movement? She met and interviewed some of the fighters. Well worth a read. It sort of reflects what we are saying. Can't believe it's 24 years old now. I don't think we've learnt much in certain respects? 

 

 

I haven't read it ..just took a glance on page 12 and seems very in line to what some of us a saying in 2022!

is there online pdf of book

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

@dallysingh101

Idk if you can say this openely but i know some 'gatekeepers' of khalistan in the West, if you say at think critical they will label you rss/ traitor/ sell-outs..

But when i started paying interest to other conflicts, history, how the world works (esp Jews)...you start reviewing things differently...what could have be done different during that time? If there was deal negotiations behind the scenes should they have take it..so on..its does not make me anti-Khalsa, Sant Ji or wanting Sikh homeland..but with all this bloodshed and ready to die to this kaum ..something we are going wrong somewhere...maybe this is the lack of intellect leaders in our kaum...them more we die = the better they win

World i not black and white..India is puppet of globalization anyway, WTO, one world banking, UN...

Got to learn how to swim with the sharks then against it.. imo

 

For me, reading Jagjit Singh The Sikh Revolution sort of explained it all to me. Why original Singhs were able to take on the most powerful empire of their time despite the most ruthless and bloody attempts to crush them, without backing down - in the face of countless reversals. And why the character of the panth changed, with people more panjabi or jut than deeply absorbed in a Sikh identity making up numbers off the back of the originals who were mostly shaheed. 

A person just has to look at the type of literature being patronised and composed by dasmesh pita ji to know that they were firing on all cylinders intellectually too.   

Now, if a pendu can read and write simply, it's an achievement. 

I remember watching a movie about Che Guevera and one scene stuck in my mind. He wouldn't promote a top fighter because he was illiterate. He said something like, this will make people make fools of you. You won't understand what is going on. 

I think some of that happened to apnay. 

[dallysingh101]

4 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

 

is there online pdf of book

Don't think so? 

[Kau89r8]

4 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

t. 

I remember watching a movie about Che Guevera and one scene stuck in my mind. He wouldn't promote a top fighter because he was illiterate. He said something like, this will make people make fools of you. You won't understand what is going on. 

I think some of that happened to apnay. 

Nailed it 100% 

If you look at Iran, they are declared no1 enemy and behind  funding a lot of terrorists friction in the Middle east (Shia vs sunni vs / israel/palestine (funding hamas) But there is a lot of sympathy with them and the avg Joe/Karen far libs dont buy into Iran being 'boggey state of terrorism'... Their PR leaders are intellects, ive seen interviews with iran FM on usa channels they would ask them your fund this jihadi group behind war in Syria and he gives comabacks looks at the USA history what they have done you'd never buy into West narrative Iran is biggest sponsor terrorists they 

Similar to China i see with concentration camps going on, they got good intellects pr (they are Chinese after all) similar russia etc i guess like you mentioned we didn't have the ecosystem just relying on few and Indian media nor privileged like countries such as iran, china russia so on

 

[proudkaur21]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

Maybe this is the sad truth? I think we've got a  lot of nonbelieving blood in our quom right now too. 

We are going through a purge. The loosers are going to take themselves out and mostly the strong will move forward with sikhi. Tbh I think it's good because these people are going to vote against the interests of Sikhs wether they stay or leave so it's best they leave because they stay and try to bend our maryada. They dont leave sikhi but want to bend sikhi for their own wrong interests. Its best they leave.

[dallysingh101]

2 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

We are going through a purge. The losers are going to take themselves out and mostly the strong will move forward with sikhi. Tbh I think it's good because these people are going to vote against the interests of Sikhs wether they stay or leave so it's best they leave because they stay and try to bend our maryada. They dont leave sikhi but want to bend sikhi for their own wrong interests. Its best they leave.

Nah we're riddled with infiltrators. We have a dirty job ahead of us. The biggest battle we have is internal in my opinion. 

[MisterrSingh]

48 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

@dallysingh101

Idk if you can say this openely but i know some 'gatekeepers' of khalistan in the West, if you say at think critical they will label you rss/ traitor/ sell-outs..

But when i started paying interest to other conflicts, history, how the world works (esp Jews)...you start reviewing things differently...what could have be done different during that time? If there was deal negotiations behind the scenes should they have take it..so on..its does not make me anti-Khalsa, Sant Ji or wanting Sikh homeland..but with all this bloodshed and ready to die to this kaum ..something we are going wrong somewhere...maybe this is the lack of intellect leaders in our kaum...them more we die = the better they win

World i not black and white..India is puppet of globalization anyway, WTO, one world banking, UN...

Got to learn how to swim with the sharks then against it.. imo

 

[GurjantGnostic]

1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

Nailed it 100% 

If you look at Iran, they are declared no1 enemy and behind  funding a lot of terrorists friction in the Middle east (Shia vs sunni vs / israel/palestine (funding hamas) But there is a lot of sympathy with them and the avg Joe/Karen far libs dont buy into Iran being 'boggey state of terrorism'... Their PR leaders are intellects, ive seen interviews with iran FM on usa channels they would ask them your fund this jihadi group behind war in Syria and he gives comabacks looks at the USA history what they have done you'd never buy into West narrative Iran is biggest sponsor terrorists they 

Similar to China i see with concentration camps going on, they got good intellects pr (they are Chinese after all) similar russia etc i guess like you mentioned we didn't have the ecosystem just relying on few and Indian media nor privileged like countries such as iran, china russia so on

 

Remember we actually pushed for the Anandpur Resolution. Not Sant Ji's fault the government planned a massacre at Harminder Sahib for years leading up to that. Violence gets forced on you sometimes, most times. And the framework was constructed by the brits. 

[proudkaur21]