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And so farewell, Kushwant Singh. You are gone. But your legacy remains. The Indians see us as stupid. Silly. And thick. And its all thanks to you. With the 'Santa Banta' Singh characters you created. The Indians loved you. The Sikhs were indifferent. Wonder why that is? You were always one of them. Never one of us. For one that says he loved drinking whisky whilst listening to gurbani. Me thinks your'e having your comeuppance now.

Gurfateh Sangat Ji, I apologise if this topic has been discussed countless times before, I have read previous discussions and done by own research on this but have failed to any real conclusion and am thus turning to SikhSangat for help. I came across the Air India Flight 182 incident whilst reading up news and facts about the recent incident of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight. As far as I am aware, the Air India Flight 192 bombing was conducted by Babbar Khalsa members in retaliation for Operation Bluestar. I am unaware of how true this is and the details surrounding it, but considering one of the men Inderjit "Singh" Rayat has pleaded guilty to manslaughter and to making the bomb I assume this may well be somewhat accurate. As I don't live in Canada, I was unaware of this whole thing. I googled Inderjit Singh and my word, all I could think of was how can a man who looks like that do something as horrible as this! Looks can be so deceiving, he looks like your average Baba Ji. As a Sikh, I am honestly DISGUSTED if this was done by Sikhs no matter what the reasoning. I admire our shaheeds like Sant Jarnail Singh Ji and Sukha Jinda so much, I admire Bhai Hawara Ji and Balwant Singh Rajoana Ji, but these Singhs never went out of their way to kill innocent people. However, bombing a plane and killing 300+ people for no reason is beyond me and disgusts me to the core. It makes me ashamed, it is embarrassing. I can never ever see Guru Gobind Singh Ji condoning this behaviour in any way or form. It is not Sikhi. Please tell me this was not done by Sikhs. Please tell me it was a conspiracy. Please tell me Inderjit Singh Rayat has been framed, and that innocent looking face isn't the mask of a mass murderer.

do we all eventually go back to were we came from no matter how many hundreds of human births/rebirths it takes or do some souls wander forever

Human beings are born, everything else is tagged onto us once we earn it. I wasn't born with an MBA degree, I worked hard for it. Same way, one has to LIVE the Sikhi life to be called a Sikh. Its not a tag that can be stuck on anyone at birth, no matter how much they enjoy getting tagged with it and not deserve any of it. You might want to start another thread on this.

InderjitS and dashmesh1984 are more on point than others in this topic. The truth is hard to swallow, but let's see how you guys react..... Who cares if he was such a good writer if he was against the Truth? There are also those who are good at making drugs, making alcohol, killing people. You can take any topic...and can say it is a form of 'art'/'skill'. But it doesn't matter when there is major corruption involved. Writing books/articles like he has done is NOTHING. Standing up in a time of need when everyone else is quiet is SOMETHING........something which he wasn't able to do and Baba Jarnail Singh Jee was. What type of 'journalism' is it when he is writing lies and promoting them? That's not honest journalism at all! On top of that, he's an atheist, he drank malt whiskey a lot everyday up till his death and even brags about it. Even he brags about his parents drinking scotch/whiskey as their last actions of their life. Who is he to be praised? 99% of the internet is only praising him (mostly enemies of Sikhs) due to his anti-Sikh anti-Gurmat stance. And don't try and make him seem good because he returned his award...that is a very small action compared to the hatred/manmat he spread through his writings. See for yourself: 'We've had so many donkeys as PM'I was the only Indian to criticise Bhindranwale: Khushwant Singh Madhu Jain August 30, 1999 | UPDATED 12:07 IST Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/i-was-the-only-indian-to-criticise-bhindranwale-khushwant-singh/1/255997.html Behind the facade of indulgence lies a strict life by the stopwatch, as senior editor Madhu Jain discovered in a free-wheeling interview with India's most famous sardar. Excerpts: Q. What inspired you to write a novel after a decade? A. I heard about this man who after falling out with his wife went through a succession of women. There would be a Bengali sometimes or a south Indian and they'd stay for three or four months. I thought what a wonderful character. From that the fantasy took off. Q. Is there some of you in this character or are you an armchair voyeur? A. It's total fantasy. It's not voyeurism. When you meet a woman you wonder what she'll be like in bed. Q. You've said you are not a dirty old man but have a dirty old mind. A. My mind is no dirtier than most men's. I am honest and I say it. Fantasising is a common phenomenon and there's no censorship here. Q. You seem to have created your own persona, with the loose T-shirts, of a man who's always telling jokes ... A. I've always been indifferent to dressing. Amita Malik got it right when she put me among the worst dressed men in India. But yes, I am a born joker. Q. There are so many contradictions. You've translated the Japji and other religious writings, and there's the other you. A. It's gone alongside, it's never made me religious. I rejected religion from the age of 25. Q. Yet being a Sikh is very important to you. A. Very important. A sense of belonging, and that's why I gave up the Padma Bhushan after Operation Bluestar. I was the only Indian to criticise Bhindranwale. I called him a homicidal maniac when I was in The Hindustan Times. And he threatened to finish us all. And then I had all this security for 15 years. They've all gone now. Nobody wants to kill me anymore. Q. Have you ever been in love? A. No, love is an ephemeral and illusive concept, it doesn't last; lust lasts. Q. Don't you think you burnt your fingers with the Gandhis? A. Yes. But I supported Sanjay with good intentions. I was quite taken up by his ideas; slum clearance, family planning. Tree planting was an idea I planted in his head. The fellow was a doer, though his Maruti was a disaster. Q. But how could you stand by them during the Emergency? A. Well, earlier I stood by them but then I began to criticise them ... about the press censorship. I said this is wrong. She said there could be no Emergency without censorship. And when she lost the election I went to see her. And she said 'Humko feedback nahin tha'. I said how could you have any feedback if you had locked up the press. It was then that I stood by them when they were in the doghouse. Q. Did you really admire Mrs Gandhi? A. She was different out of power. I would invite the foreign press and Mrs G would come here for dinner with Sonia who never opened her mouth. Either she was dumb or just sullen. She felt she was in enemy territory because she thought I was on Maneka's side. Q. What do you think of Sonia getting into politics and possibly becoming prime minister? A. In this country nothing comes as a surprise. Kitne khhote reh chuke hain prime minister. We've had so many donkeys as prime ministers. Q. Who do you think should be the prime minister? A. Two people who should be returned to Parliament are Vajpayee and Manmohan Singh. Q. What impression do you have of Vajpayee? A. He's a humane person, quite a lovable man. Women find him cuddly. He's totally above any communal prejudice. He read a poem to me after Babri Masjid. It was full of angst. I asked him "why didn't you express your views openly?" and Vajpayee kept quiet. Q. How did you nominate L.K. Advani for the Lok Sabha? A. It was soon after the '84 killings. I was angry with the Congress. Advani took me in his car to Tis Hazari, and the photographers came. Their objective was to tell the Sikhs that a Sikh was proposing his name. Q. What do you think of the present-day journalists? A. Editors have been downgraded to nothing. Now the manager is the boss. Q. Any good writers today? A.There are some very good ones other than the well-known names. But there's so much rubbish written that I don't even read. Q. You accept most invitations and junkets. Is it the done thing? A. There is no namak haram for journalists. Whisky pi lo (drink the whisky) and write what you want. Q. What's the secret of your, well, vitality and long life? A. The only secret is to acquire long-lived parents. My father died at 90 holding a glass of Scotch and my mother at 94 had one last request: her voice was feeble but she said whisky. The doctor said chalo give it. She took it and then threw it up. Q. Most of your friends have gone, or are going. Do you think about death, does it frighten you? A. I argued with myself that it won't be long now. The encasing will go, will anything else remain? I don't know. The envelope will be torn up. Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/i-was-the-only-indian-to-criticise-bhindranwale-khushwant-singh/1/255997.html Also, go here and read the Word file: http://www.sikhgenocide.org/downloads/sandhu.doc Khushwant Singh speculates: "When Bhindranwale sensed that the Government had at long last decided to arrest him, he first took shelter in the Golden Temple, then occupied and fortified portions of the Akal Takht." * - Kuldip Nayar and Khushwant Singh: The Tragedy of Punjab, Vision Books, New Delhi, 1984, page 10. That's what you guys are praising when you praise him....get a grip on reality. He isn't what you think he is. Even his JapJee Sahib and other religious text translations are probably useless. He just wrote them to gain popularity amongst the Sikh population, the same way Punjabi singers sing 'Dharmik' songs these days and Punjabi television shows play those music videos at the beginning of their programs. He had no care in the world for Sikhi/Gurmat and even openly admits it all the time, yet you guys are loving to praise and promote him. I would take every word he says with a grain of salt. He's a serial liar.

On facebook some so called sikhs are celebrating his death..absolutely disgusting. Dya-compassion, daily prayer- sarbat da bhalla (well being of all humanity), sam dristhi (one vision of humanity as God light), nirbhauo(love no fear) nirvair(no animosity/hatred) actual nature of sikh -whole foundation of sikhi seems to be lost in new sikh world order...may be these people with sub human mindset who celebrate death of another being ( who does not conform to their ideology) needs to learn how to be human first then sikh.

Khushwant Singh, one of the finest authors who elevated English writing in India with his classic works on Partition and history of Sikhs, literature and displayed an impeccable sense of wit and humour, died here today at the age of 99. The veteran writer and journalist, who suffered from age- related illness and had faded from public life, passed away at his Sujan Singh Park home built by his father Sir Sobha Singh, a civil contractor and a prominent builder of Lutyens' Delhi. A fearless writer, who had taken on Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale who had spearheaded the insurgency in Punjab from Golden temple, fell out with the then Indira Gandhi government after Operation Bluestar in 1984. He had surrendered the Padma Bhushan given to him in protest. Later he was awarded Padma Vibhushan in 2007. Singh's son Rahul, also a journalist, said the author breathed his last "very, very peacefully" and was mentally alert till the end. "He led a full life. Although he stopped writing a few weeks ago, he was reading books and newspapers." "He had his regular peg of whiskey last night, read a book, solved crossword in the morning and passed away within minutes," Rahul said, adding, "The sad part is he could not complete his '100' which was just 11 months away." President Pranab Mukherjee and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh paid rich tributes to Singh, describing him as a "fearless intellectual" and a "gifted author". The Prime Minister and UPA Chairperson Sonia Gandhi were among scores of people who paid homage to the author at his residence. The author, who produced classics like "Train to Pakistan", "I Shall Not Hear the Nightingale" and "Delhi - A Novel" and "The Company of Women", was cremated at the Lodhi electric crematorium here. Though Singh was an agnostic in life, a Sikh priest conducted Ardas, the last rites in Sikhism as Rahul and other family members watched. His friends, well wishers and political leaders including Union ministers Salman Khurshid and Kapil Sibal and http://www.financialexpress.com/news/khushwant-singh-dead/1234669

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Actually there was an edict some years ago from the Akal Takht saying that all marriages should be done in gurdwaras only and one is not allowed to do prakash in hotels, etc,etc. There was too much beadbi going on so they had to put in place these strict rules. I have been involved in our gurdwara for the last 15 years and have attended many marriages both on and away from the gurdwara. I would agree with the akal takht decision in this regard, it is beter to do the lavan in the gurdwara where proper respect can be mantained. You see you have your relatives who come for the marriage and you go out of your way to make sure they are taken care of and respected, but the same usually does not go for the treatment of our Guru. Mostly because we don't believe it's our Guru, it is just a ceremony we all do and afterwars the majority of us drink alcohol, etc, etc which are against the tenets of the religion. You see in my involvement in the gurdwara I have learned the raagis and granthis are usually rascals and they will do anything for money, even sell there soul. There are a handfull who are good but you wil always find one who is willing to do anything for money and hence the saroops are taken anywhere. The age old problem. Nor are our people worried about what they are doing.....

The under lying message in Vairaag Shatak is Vairaag {renunciation}; Gurbani stresses the importance of Vairaag, in order to break free from Kaam/krodh/lobh/moh/ahankar. What made India a nation of cowards, was not Vairaag; the thing that made India a nation of sub-servients, was spiritual corruption, the attachment to materialism, and the distancing of folk from self discipline. This Granth teaches one the importance of Vairaag, and the need for self discipline etc. Rajah Bharthari used physical renunciation; becoming a beggar, in essence. Gurmat teaches us to work for a living; to help the needy too, in a charitable manner. The bottom line is VAIRAAG; if it can be learned from this Granth, there is no harm. Anything that distances us from Kaam/krodh/lobh/moh/ahankar, is definitely worth reading..... Waheguru....

If your serious about this stuff you focus should also be living like a sikh / keeping "rehat". Here is a in depth guide: http://www.vidhia.com/Rehat%20Maryada/Gurmat_Rehat_Maryada_-_Damdami_Taksal.pdf

Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh (above) is excellent for spiritual concepts. For history and the lives of the Guru's I highly recommend Prof. Puran Singh. He is a literally genius and I can assume you will love his work. I recommend starting with the book the Spirit Born People (his book the Ten Masters is about the 10 Gurus). : To buy: http://jsks.biz/the-spirit-born-people-puran-singh?filter_name=puran%20singh To read online: http://www.vidhia.com/Professor%20Puran%20Singh/The_Spirit_Born_People_Puran_Singh.pdf You should defiantly focus on Guru Granth Sahib, yes that is the best focus. Here is a great link of the entire Guru Granth Sahib in English. http://www.nyu.edu/clubs/usa/docs/sggs.pdf I don't recommend reading it linearly. It is not uncommon to read a shabad, ang, or 10 angs from a random location but I also don't recommend this either* rather read it according to the time of the day based on the raag: http://www.sikhvibes.com/downloads/PDFs/Raags.pdf Eg if its 4:15 PM read the Raag Tilang pages.. and then make a note of where you left off and then the next day at 3:00pm read where you left of in the Raag Tilang section not many Sikhs do this, maybe only one at the moment, but I do recommend this. Using this method you would be reading from the Guru Granth Sahib 7 times a day which is good, but more than often: once is good enough. I usually end up being in Gurus presence 2-6 times a day using this method. * unless of course your doing a hukamnama or asking the Guru for something than random location is often used in the community.

wjkk wjkf, does anyone have audio recordings of nitnem banis? I am after the recordings which show how each bani is suppposed to be recited i.e. using correct raag and rythmn I heard somewhere that Tav Prasad Swaiye is recited as if there are soldiers marching onto a battle field, similarly each chaand in sri jaap sahib should be recited according to a different rythmn and each with a different pentra. Could anyone help? wjkk wjkf

I think it was a different Khushwant Singh whom Sant Ji mentioned in his speech. Surely, there were many traitors and we can't expect there to be only one Khushwant. Ranbir Singh Sandhu states in his book that it is not the same Khushwant. Has anybody ever verified the veracity of this information? As far as I know he was against Sant ji but never advocated the attack.

nice thought but i had some other sense with my post anyways.. :biggrin2:

Not so much Iranian nationalism per se Mehtab Singh, more events leading up to the Iranian revolution. Most importantly how vital it is to have the intelligentsia on board. In pre-revolution Iran, with the Shah cracking down harshly on practising Islam, it was people like writers and academics who, although not at all religious, disliked the way that they were not allowed to be religious even if they wanted to........which they didn't. With them on board the poor masses couldn't fail. Back in the 1980's we Sikhs had the intellegensia on board. At the forefront of the Sikh movement were not uneducated types, but graduates with masters and phd's...i.e the All India Sikh Students Federation. That needs to be a priority of ours as even recent revolutions and uprisings in places such as Egypt, Tunisia etc have shown how popular uprisings will only work with them on board. There are of course some stark differences between Punjabis and Iranians. The Iranian people in general, and their academics in partcular, have always been very emotional people stirred by poetry and the arts. For such people, it is easy to think about what is going on and empathise with the suffering of others. We Sikhs, and Punjabis in general, seriously lack such a class of people. With us, its all about money. Our elite are not those that can wax lyrical about Nietsche and Descartes, but simply rich fools. Until we address that, our movement continues to look, from the outside looking in, full of uneducated types.

Good question. All souls are destined to where they originated from. Some souls may take 1 birth to merge some will take millions and millions of years.

Q. There are so many contradictions. You've translated the Japji and other religious writings, and there's the other you. A. It's gone alongside, it's never made me religious. I rejected religion from the age of 25. Jeez I wonder what punishment he received from Dharamraj for rejecting religion.....

Have you read Bachittar Natak?

Read these books: http://www.bsrstrust.org/books/english-ebooks/

New York: Asking a US court to respect India's sovereignty, India's Congress party has sought dismissal of a human rights violation case relating to the 1984 anti-Sikh violence filed by a US-based Sikh rights group. After hearing arguments on Congress party's challenge to the "extraterritorial jurisdiction" of US courts, Manhattan's US Federal Judge Robert W Sweet on Wednesday reserved his ruling. The Congress argued that respecting India's sovereignty, the US Court should decline to hear the case as the party could not be held liable in a US court for "acts occurring in India nearly three decades ago, involving only residents of India, with no plausible nexus to the United States". If this case is allowed to continue, it will be a frontal attack on India's sovereignty, it said. Urging Sweet to continue with the 1984 case, Sikhs for Justice (SFJ) Attorney Michael Fitzgerald said the 1984 violence was not an accident or coincidence, but a plan to eliminate the Sikhs. The death of 3,000 Sikhs in the 1984 violence cannot be characterised as "elimination" countered the Congress party pointing out that millions of Sikhs live in India and a Sikh is the Prime Minister of India since 2004. Challenging the Congress party's contention that the 1984 case is "time barred" under US laws, Fitzgerald argued that Sikh rights' violation is a "continuing offence" because Congress party still provides impunity to perpetrators of 1984 violence. In March 2011, a US court had issued summons against the Congress party in the class action lawsuit filed by SFJ under the Alien Tort Statute and Torture Victim Protection Act. http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/congress-party-asks-us-court-to-respect-india-s-sovereignty_919079.html

Yes. It will. You should definitely read about all Gurus or just watch the videos.

Agreed, highly recommended. He may have had scewed views for whatever reason, but he was a great writer nonetheless.

I started following Basics of Sikhi on Facebook as soon as I saw their videos. I really like the way he conveys the message and the street parchars really seem to be opening the public up to the subject in a positive manner. Do any of you think reading a biography of the Gurus and their times would help in studying? Should I focus mainly on the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?

Hey, Keep on watching Basics of Sikhi's videos. That channel has more than 400 videos. I would highly recommend you to watch Japji Sahib English Katha & KirtanThe First Bani( prayer) recited by First Sikh Guru, Guru Nanak Devji. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8F0BB3226CF2D06B This is their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Everythings13.BasicsofSikhi

Hi Andrew this might help you with some of the words and meanings any others just ask away as this also helps other begginers who may not know what a certain word means: Guru and Sikh by Yuktanand Singh http://www.sikhs.org/ya6.htm Terms & Phrases Many volumes can be written on this, and the next two sections. I am now, simply going to list some Sikh vocabulary, some buzzwords. They represent the core of the Sikh thought, conduct, and tradition, not subject to change with the fads of the ever-changing society. This list is not complete. From a philosophical view, each of these is just a different facet of Naam. I apologize, for using too many non-English words. If you want, you may go to the next sections first and read this later. A student of Sikh Panth should understand at least these. They are not in an alphabetical order: Gurudwara: A Sikh place of worship. In a Gurudwara, any Gursikhs can take turns to lead the activity as long as they respect Maryada and time constraints. A Granthi (Custodian) or a secretary is merely there to maintain order. Amrit: Ambrosia of eternal life, the Initiation of a Gursikh with Amrit, a Sikh form of Baptism. When the Sikh submits completely to the Guru, Five Gursikhs give him instructions regarding the Nitt Name, the Rehet, and how to meditate on a Word. Waheguru is the Sikh Gurmantra. Amrit is the only way to spiritually receive Gurmantra from the Sikh Guru. Having a Gurmantra is not an exclusive privilege of a Gursikh, though. It is an ancient practice, followed in some form by all serious seekers and Saints. Meditation on the Sikh Gurmantra without Amrit is compared to someone trying to earn a diploma without being enrolled in the school. A Gurmantra, with submission to a Guru and proper meditation, is essential for a true repose in God, leading to a wholesome life. To stress this, this is the only time the Fifth Master has used such harsh words: "A living being without a Gurmantra turns his precious human birth into disgrace. He becomes putrefied and foul. This fool is like a (helpless) dog, a (muck loving) swine, a donkey (toiling for others), a (vagrant) crow, and a (venomous) snake." (SGGS, p.1356) Rehet or Reht: The Sikh conduct, whether alone or in the company of others, as The Tenth Master explained to the "Five Beloved." Rehet has the essential attributes of Tenth Master's lifestyle, including the five K's (see the next section) and the Nitt Name. In the words of The Tenth Master, "My Sikh is only he who lives the Rehet, he is my master and I am his servant." Why? Rehet allows The Tenth Master to turn the Sikh into Khalsa, which is his own personality. Maryada: Rules for conducting various ceremonies in a Sikh's life, including procedures in the Gurudwara. Gurbani or Bani: The verses in the Sikh Scripture, Guru Granth Sahib. Any other verses or writings may be respected, but they are not to be considered as Gurbani. To emphasize this, The Tenth Master did not include his own writings in the Guru Granth Sahib, though they should be considered as Gurbani. Gurbani acts as a verbal teacher, as well as the Shabad. The Tenth Master mandated: "The Panth was launched only after God's command. All Sikhs are ordained to regard the Granth as the Guru. You shall see Guru Granth Ji as the Guru's physical body. Whoever wants to see God, can search, and find all the guidance in the Shabad." Shabad or Shabd: The Word. God's Voice. God's Light. It is manifest to the world in Gurbani, now in Guru Granth Sahib. Shabad is useless without Surat: Inner attention fixed on the Shabad. Surat is the place where Shabad (Gurbani) acts. When Surat is tied to Shabad through Guru's Mercy, a sad but peaceful and spontaneous, melody of God's Love can be "heard" in the mind, and in everything else. Then the Shabad is felt to be present everywhere. A seeker follows this delicate thread, leading him to where the Shabad resides. Some day, by Guru's Grace the seeker gives up everything, including food and personal care, but he would not let this thread go. This is one example of Naam (God's Name). The Gurbani stresses its importance by repeatedly recounting the stories of its practice by Kabir, Namdev, Dhruva and Prahalad. Only this kind of union with Naam creates a perfect Saint (Sant). Satt: Being a man of your word. Having a yearning for the absolute Truth. Santokh: Contentment. To give up chasing things of the world, and Vichaar: Reflection. Analyzing Guru's message. These are three prerequisites for understanding Gurbani. A Sikh is expected to understand and absorb when he reads and recites Gurbani, not just use it as a mouthwash. Nam or Naam: Worship of God during all activity. Not forgetting Him, and thanking Him for his gifts, life, body, and other things of the world, while, not losing your soul among those things. Realization that life without Him, like a leaf broken away from a tree, cannot thrive. Holding on to God as the ultimate aim of life at every moment, just like a mother cannot forget her newborn child during all her activities. This needs to be developed as an inner, mental habit, not to become a show. In time, it turns into perpetual inner exchanges with God. Daan: Giving. Taking care of the needy, giving to the poor. The spiritual gift of Naam is considered as the greatest Daan. Ishnan: A spiritual act of washing oneself with prayer and water before dawn. A bath or shower taken after dawn is not considered as Ishnan. Nitt Nem: Daily Routine. This includes Ishnan, Simran and meditative recitation of five prescribed pieces of Gurbani: The Japji, Jaap Sahib, Anand Sahib, Savaiyae, and Chaupaee. A spiritual practice is considered a routine, and it starts being fruitful, after it has been practiced for forty consecutive days. Amrit Vela: Last three hours of the night, the ambrosial hours. This time is reserved for meditation and Ishnan. A Sikh should not waste these precious moments in useless talk etc. Meditation during these hours is infinitely more fruitful than meditation done at any other hour of the day or night. Hukam or Hukm: Command, God's Will: Realizing that only God is the real doer and everything is working out according to His Will. Accepting His work above personal preference and desires. Since Guru's Command is in-tune with God's will, it is also the Hukam. Haumei: Ego, the basic human disease. This is the real sin. All other sins originate from the ego: Feeling rational and self-sufficient while apparently thriving as separated from God. Pride, or, self-condemnation. Feeling responsible for one's past actions. An outlook, as if we are in complete control of our life. Ego is the opposite of Hukam. Ego comes in countless and deceptive forms and shapes. To avoid this, a Sikh does not worship God as the Self. Ego is the only barrier between the man and his true nature. Obeying the True Guru's teaching and his Command is the only way to release the heart and soul from the grips, and invisible chains of ego. Waheguru: The Gurmantra. It is the word for meditation. It is a pregnant word. It is also used as a synonym of "God." Its meaning, just like Gurbani, continues to renew and expand for the seeker who meditates on it. Literally, it means, "God-Guru, The Spiritual Light, You are beyond description." A Sikh worships only One, formless God, who has no limits, and who is able to transcend His own laws. Nam Japna or Simran: Meditation on God's Name, seeing Waheguru everywhere. Repetition of Gurmantra with breath, as explained during Amrit, the Sikh form of baptism. Breaths taken without the Simran are totally wasted. Just like something most precious is allowed to run out from a leaking container, without making a good use of it. This is why, upon realization of this loss, a Sikh prays to have "a million mouths" (tongues), so that he can make up with what is left so far. This realization is not possible without Sadh Sangat. Wand Chhakna: Feeding the hungry before feeding oneself. Sharing everything with the needy. It seems the Gurus advocated this form of socialism, implemented at the personal level. Dharam Di Kirat: To earn only an honest livelihood. Not accepting gifts that are not earned. Daswandh: Tithing. Giving 10 percent of income to the Guru, or to poor and needy Sikhs. Sangat: A Spiritual alliance. Gursikhs gathered for singing of Kirtan, discussion, and meditation on Gurbani with other Sikhs. Often overlooked: Correct and steady posture with crossed legs when sitting and, undivided attention is also necessary. A parrot-like recital, or listening to prerecorded Kirtan, while doing other things, is of little value. Sat Sangat: Sangat gathered only for God's Voice and Nam. In Sikh Panth, sharing God's Name with others is the highest form of Yoga. This is the purpose of Gurbani. Among the Sikhs, to assure that we are engaged in a sharing of True Naam without someone's ego contaminating it, a meeting is restricted to singing (Kirtan) of Gurbani (From Guru Granth Sahib) or, listening to Katha. The Tenth Master's writings are also considered as Gurbani, though we know that he did not designate his own writings as the Guru. Writings of Bhai Gurdas and Bhai Nand Lal are the only other acceptable pieces, as footnotes, for singing during Sat Sangat. This is because: 1) They were written during the time of the ten Masters, who approved them, and 2) they are written to help us follow Gurbani. They were not written with an intention to replace, be equal to or as an addition to, the Gurbani. Other "Satsangi" people, outside the Panth can do or sing whatever they like, a Sikh does not argue with anyone. Quiet meditation on one word for a prolonged period, generally does not build a Sat Sangat, because, everyone's thoughts are not then harnessed by the music and Gurbani. Sadh Sangat: Spiritual company of a True Saint. For Sikhs, it is Guru Granth Sahib in Sangat, or, Sangat of an enlightened Sikh, a Khalsa Gursikh. Sadh Sangat, with Kirtan, is the best spiritual activity, higher than any form of Yoga. Pangat: Sharing of food while sitting together on floor mats, a traditional practice to remove class differences and to generate humility. To feed and sit with the homeless and the destitute. Sikh Gurus required all visitors, even a king, to sit and eat in a Pangat with the homeless, before seeing the Guru. Seva: Service of the Guru without a desire for any outcome. Service of the Sangat and others without ego. A neutralizer of Seva is to envy others who do Seva or, to want a reward or recognition. Jote and Jugat: The Light (Jote), and the Method (Jugat) for uncovering this Light. These are two aspects of the Guru. Jote resides in Guru Granth Sahib. Jugat cannot be explained. It is the proper inner conduct combined with Rehet. It can be learned only through the company of other True Gursikhs. Meditation without proper Jugat is not very fruitful in uncovering the Jote. Jugat resides in the heart of a Khalsa. It resides in the Guru's Mercy. Real Jugat starts only after Amrit from the Five Gursikhs. It then unfolds in a Gursikh's heart through Simran, Sangat, and Seva. Jugat also comes naturally through the service of a True Saint, which, for a Sikh, is only a Khalsa. Katha: Listening to history and works of the Ten Masters, and spiritual exposition of Guru Shabad. Sanmukh: A Faithful Sikh. A Sikh with firm faith in the Guru finds that the Guru always stays with him to help and guide him. He depends on the Guru's inner guidance for each breath and activity, and does not do anything without the Guru being present. This nurtures a spiritual link between the Sikh and the Guru. Among other things, it also assures clean thoughts and action. A Sanmukh Sikh sees his Guru in everyone. Its opposite is Bemukh. Deg (Dish): It symbolizes food. Food is a representative of God as His Love. A Sikh does not take a bite without thanking God for this and His other Gifts. A state of gratitude toward God, then, expands and accompanies all his other activities. This is an important spiritual practice. It can even lower your cholesterol and blood pressure! Deg is also a reminder that a Sikh is to take care of the hungry. Hoarding food away from the hungry is not in a Sikh's nature. Guru Ka Langar: Guru's Free Kitchen is open to all at a place of worship, without discrimination about a person's religion, race, political views, cast, class, or occupation. Feeding each other's friends at the end of a meeting, as is common in the western Gurudwaras, is not what the Gurus aimed for. It can be called only a form of Pangat. Wherever possible, Guru Ka Langar is open all days of the week, to feed the really needy and the poor. It is based at a Gurudwara. Teg or Kirpan (Sword): It symbolizes Force, or Mahan Kaal (The Great Destroyer). This represents God, as Force, Death, and Mercy. Death, of the personal ego, the evil, and, ultimately, everything that He created. The Sixth and The Tenth Gurus taught the Sikhs to worship God also as the Force, and not be afraid to fight and die for justice. Death during such an act puts one directly in the lap of Force, or Mercy. For a Sikh, this is the preferred form of death, than dying on a bed or in the ICU. This does not mean that a dying Sikh is to go out and pick a fight with someone! A Sikh is prepared to defend Dharma, and protect the persecuted and the saints. He prays that, when he is old, he may die while engaged in a combat with some tyrant. The Tenth Master says: "O Shiva, bless me so that: I may not avoid any pious deeds; I may not be afraid when I fight with a tyrant; I may be always victorious through my faith in you; I may preach only to myself; may my only desire be to utter your praise; and when I am nearing death may I get executed while fighting fiercely." (DG, p.99) Parshad: A Gift out of pure Mercy, not because of any merit in the recipient. It is a synonym of Kirpa (Grace) or, God's Merciful Touch. A sweet dish served after the prayer as the representative of God's Grace, after it is touched with Kirpan (A symbol of God's Mercy) is also called Parshad. Nanak Nam Charrdi Kala (Nanak says, life under Your Name is always advancing and cheerful) Tere Bhanne Sarbatt Da Bhala (Because, whatever You do is, always for the best of everyone): This is the way every Ardas (The Sikh Prayer) is concluded. Sat Siri Akal (Only God is immortal and real): This is the common way of greeting among Sikhs. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh: This is a required greeting between Gursikhs. It represents the Khalsa Panth revealed by The Tenth Master. Its meaning is, "Khalsa is God-Guru's property, and ultimate victory belongs only to Him." Mool Mantra: The first stanza of Guru Granth Sahib. This is the foundation (Mool = root) of Sikh philosophy. Mool Mantra is the first few words uttered by Guru Nanak when he came out of a deep trance, after having disappeared into the river for three days. Bhai Gurdas writes about Guru Nanak: "Guru Nanak engulfed the whole world in a spiritual light causing the thick fog of ignorance to vanish. It is like the sun rising against the stars, or, when a lion roars, all the deer go into hiding. Each house is now a temple of worship. Kirtan and spiritual joy is the rule. Finally, a Gurmukh has emerged during the Iron Age." We all know that a whole book could be written on exposition of Mool Mantra alone, because each statement has several deep implications. The whole Guru Granth Sahib can be very accurately called an expansion of Mool Mantra and Gurmantra. Here is a brief meaning of the Mool Mantra: : Pronounced EkOnkar: The Only One is everything. The letter "O" here, represents everything. Guru Nanak used only a number (1) before it to indicate God, the reality. He did not want to pollute the unity in the reality by adding any man made words. If he did, it would not be a 1 anymore! In The Tenth Body, in the form of Guru Gobind Singh, two hundred years after Japji, Guru Nanak composed the Jaap Sahib, naming several different aspects of this number (1). Only the One is the reality in everything, the visible and the invisible. SattNaam: In reality, He is the Naam. His real Name (Naam) is He Himself. This is the ultimate Truth. A Sikh's destination is His Name. A Sikh has no reason to argue about which other name is correct. He uses the Hindu names of Ram, Gobind, Shiva as well as Muslim Allah and Christian God, etc., interchangeably and without hesitation because all these names are equally provisional. This is why the Sikh Gurus chose "Waheguru" as a closer match to God's name. This leads to another important understanding, that all the religions are also provisional. They all become merely skeletal when the seeker reaches this fact: The only proper Dharma is whatever God himself approves for each individual. Only He can show us how we should worship Him. Books cannot teach it. In the Sikh Panth, Gurbani is the only written word that can communicate true Dharma in the spirit. Karta: He is The Doer. He is the real creator and the real doer of everything, though it may not be so obvious at first. Everything in the world is like a puppet show. God is the puppet master behind everything. As Shri Naranjan Singh Ji used to say, "Even a single leaf cannot quiver in the breeze without His Will." How does God do it? The Surat can see this. This is worship. A Sikh is not to lose sight of the Puppet Master behind all the various forms of puppets. Purakh: He is The Husband. We may imagine God as an energy field or force (which could be harnessed and used by anyone), a light (which can be directed, controlled, or blocked, it has no will of its own), an emotion or a feeling (which presumes someone other than itself experiencing it), or, a space, a ghost, a cloud, a human, an animal, the list can go on and on. None of these represent God. It is important that God is understood as our Master, acting only by His own will which is completely fearless and carefree, and who controls everything. Guru Nanak called Him, Husband, to foster a more accurate image of a Seeker's relationship with Him. Sorry if this offends any females, or the males. If it is any consolation, Guru Nanak has called Him as our Master, Father, Mother, Brother, and Friend also. There is no question that He is also the real Guru. Nirbhau: He has no fear, because He has only Love for everything He created, and because there is nothing that is outside His control. His Will is not influenced by some kind of threat, because He has no rival, or death, to worry about. This is in contrast to theology where people believe in God's battle with a rival who has fallen out of God's command. Nirvaer: He holds no grudge or hostility. We are all equally His Children. He has only love and forgiveness for His Children. All we need is to become receptive, ask Him sincerely, with a sincere desire to be correct. It is us, who do not forgive ourselves. It is not in His nature to view, and to dwell upon our mistakes. Only the ego carries a detailed and a permanent record of everything we ever did. The ego, bound by the law of Karma and Dharamraja, prescribes the rewards and penalties also. He made the ego. Only He has the power to erase it. Akaal: He is beyond time, and space. He made the time. He created the space. He is Eternal. He has no limits. He is above all the law and the restrictions of nature. He can do anything. He sees everything, in the past, the present, and the future, as if it were here and now. Moorat: He is still. He is motionless, He neither is coming from somewhere, nor is he heading somewhere. He is everywhere. The universe in Him is constantly in motion when he is perfectly still. How can this be? Only He can do this. He is above His own laws. That is why we call Him God. He is the creator of all motion, inside the stillness. He just is, always. Ajooni: He is the only one beyond birth and death. He does not have a life cycle. He has no beginning or end. All entities at various godly levels (Brahma etc.) are subject to falling back into the lowest life forms at any moment. Only He holds the key for releasing a Jiva (life) from transmigration. Saibhun: He is Existence. Everything is, because of God. He is self-effulgent and Self-Sufficient. There is no one else out there, and there is no such thing as "outside Him." He is not here (or, everywhere) because of someone or something else. Therefore, He is also in a state of ultimate love, peace, and certitude, which is beyond human imagination. GurParshad: He is in Guru's Mercy (see Parshad above). Such: I could go on and on. I would like to just mention the fist stanza of Japji. Japji starts with the command: "Japa" (Meditate), to meditate on Truth. Next, Guru Nanak gives us the absolute test of Truth: "Truth always was before anything else, it has been here through the ages, it is here now, and it will always be." Everything else, because it does not pass this test, is not the Truth, and not worthy of meditation. Whenever this word, Truth ("Such" in Gurmukhi, with a Gurmukhi u at the end), is seen in Gurbani, the same yardstick is to be used, so that we will understand its meaning in the proper context. When everything visible and thinkable is gone, the Truth will still be the same.

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Proactive Ji: "The aim is to have 4 kids not to have 4 kids in 4 years. If you leave a few years between each kid then by the time one has started nursery, the other one is still a baby and so on. Complying with the edict won't be possible for those westernised Sikhs who have moved out of the parents home as soon as they have got married. It takes the whole family. the parents. the grandparents, the uncles and aunts to raise kids. " So...by calculating this out and assuming that each child takes 5 years to start school, it would take 20 years to output 4 children (not everyone can afford pre-school/pre-K etc.). 20 years??!! What age should we start - 15, so the child will be born when 35? Agreed that western/city dwelling Sikhs cannot comply with this edict. That is the exact point - what good is it to make an edict that Gursikhs cannot comply with? It dilutes the influence of the Jathedar of Akaal Takht Sahib to pass edicts that cannot be acted upon. The intent may be noble, but it is not actionable for many Sikhs. Absolutely appreciate your comment about how it takes much more than just parents to raise children. chatanga Sahib: "Ok, so how are you different from any other parents? And how are you different from the previous generations before you?" That is exactly the point: We are not any different from the current generation of city dwelling Sikhs. All the city dwelling Sikhs with little or no support structure (and there are a LOT of them) are experiencing similar difficulties. My own mother, who is of the previous generation, also says that we drove her near to the point of insanity while trying to take care of us because she did not have support of family/community to raise children either. How we are different from the previous generation is that the majority of Sikhs were extended families living together/close proximity and/or small village structure where there was a lot of help and sharing of children. It is common expression that it takes an entire village to raise a child. The current family/community structure is vastly different in previous generations (grandparents and before) than the current one (for city dwelling ones anyways). Back to the point: If we, as a typical Sikh family, are struggling with 2, how are other typical non "Super" status Sikhs supposed to cope with a MINIMUM of 4? Consequently, those of you who are in support of this edict: How many children do you have? I know that much of the demographics in Sikhsangat is younger youth who are most likely unmarried, so the reality of the situation is much different than the idealistic each Gursikh couple is making 10 children and they are all bana wearing, Gatka/Shartar Vidiya practicing Akhand Paathis who attend every single Gurmat program of every Jathebandi. Reality is much more difficult and different.

Thank you all very much for replying with such helpful comments. I was very excited to start reading the Sri Guru Granth Sahib JI last night! I really enjoyed the Sikh answers website and GuruNanakAcademy as well. I was wondering if some of you might be able to elucidate some of the most common disagreements in Sikhi. I wasn't familiar with there being issues like this, so I looked it up and found some shocking videos of fights in Gurudwaras. I'm sure this is not indicative of Sikhs in general, but I think knowing these issues would help me make my own decisions about them while I learn. Also, there are certain words that I am not familiar with that come up while reading Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. An example would be the word Darbaar. I understand that is just a google search away, I would like to have some sort of word reference guide. I hope you don't become tired of my very basic questions. Know that I really appreciate the effort you are giving me.

Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh! Some of the first things I reccomend to anyone coming into Sikhi, whether they were born into the faith or are coming from a different background is the following: Read "The Autobiography of Bhai Randhir Singh". Its available on iBooks, amazon.com and as a PDF on the internet. Listen to English discourses on Sikhi by Bhai Parminder Singh. Its in the audio section of GuruNanakAcademy.com. Once in th audio page, click English Katha -----> Bhai Parminder Singh Jee. And like the others said, ask away on the forum Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!

On Tuesday 18 March, Patiala Police arrested six Sikhs, claiming they were members of Babbar Khalsa International (BKI) and that they had uncovered a terror plot ahead of the coming elections. This kind of high drama is usually found in books and films, but Punjab Police really are a law unto themselves, when they spin such plots in which innocent men are framed and the lives of many are ruined. The six Sikhs have been identified as; Gurdeep Singh (Alampur), Amarjit Singh (Mirzapur), Jasvir Singh (Hulkan), Samardeep Singh (Gigemajra), Sucha Singh (Khudda Ali Sher) and Harjinder Singh (Burail). The judicial magistrate has granted the police six days of remand. Many of you will know that the ‘remand’ period is usually the time when the Police may inflict physical and emotional torture, as during this period the detainee, in effect, becomes ‘invisible’ – no visits from family or lawyers allowed until the police have finished their ‘questioning’. In what can only be described as pure fantasy, it is said the accused were plotting to target VIPs, including the controversial cult leader Piara Bhaniarawala, and to ‘strike terror’ in Punjab ahead of the polls. SHO Bikramjit Brar went as far as suggesting the group were in touch with various ‘terror modules’ settled abroad. He added, “Gurdeep Singh, Amarjit Singh and Jasvir Singh were presently on bail and had established liaison among themselves to revive terrorist activities in the state and had also motivated some persons with a criminal background to join their terrorist module”. It is with a heavy heart we tell our readers, that one of those arrested, Amarjit Singh, is the father of 9 year old Harneet who last year with the tremendous support of the Sangat, underwent a major operation for the treatment of cancer in her leg. Harneet is Amarjit Singh and Davinder Kaur’s only child and they have been nursing her at home in this critical recovery period. SOPW have been supporting Amarjit Singh and his family, since he was serving a 5 year sentence for another case he had been framed in, when he learnt of his daughter’s serious condition. He came out on bail last year and was dedicating all his time and effort to help his precious daughter regain her health. Now, in a further twist of fate, Davinder Kaur has been left alone again, to cope with stress that Amarjit Singh’s arrest will bring. Talking about Amarjit Singh, SHO Brar said that “he is closely associated with many BKI activists and we are sure to get more leads from his questioning”. We are all aware what is meant by ‘police questioning’ and urge the Sangat to join us in praying for the Chardi Kalla of these Sikhs and to give them and their families, the strength to get through the difficult period ahead. The authenticity of these police claims is totally unfounded and come at a time when election fever is in full swing. The notorious Punjab Government has been widely reported to use drugs and alcohol to sway voters to their favour. Could it be that by promoting the fear of a return to violence in Punjab, followed by this public show of arrests, is being used to distract the voters of Punjab from the real issues. Corruption, drugs addiction, farmer suicide, electricity shortages and lack of economic development are among the many problems facing Punjabi’s, that the State Government at the very best chooses to ignore and in some cases, actually has a hand in promoting. In Punjabi ਪਟਿਆਲਾ,18 ਮਾਰਚ - ਪਟਿਆਲਾ ਪੁਲੀਸ ਨੇ ਬੱਬਰ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਇੰਟਰਨੈਸ਼ਨਲ ਦੇ ਮੁਖੀ ਅਤੇ ਬੇਅੰਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਤਲ ਕੇਸ ਅਧੀਨ ਤਿਹਾੜ ਜੇਲ੍ਹ ਵਿੱਚ ਬੰਦ ਜਗਤਾਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਹਵਾਰਾ ਅਤੇ ਪਰਮਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਭਿਓਰਾ ਦੇ ਤਿੰਨ ਨਜ਼ਦੀਕੀ ਸਾਥੀਆਂ ਸਮੇਤ ਜਥੇਬੰਦੀ ਦੇ ਅੱਧੀ ਦਰਜਨ ਸਰਗਰਮ ਮੈਂਬਰਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਤਿੰਨ ਪਿਸਤੌਲਾਂ ਤੇ ਇਕ ਬੰਦੂਕ ਸਮੇਤ ਗ੍ਰਿਫ਼ਤਾਰ ਕਰਨ ਦਾ ਦਾਅਵਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੈ। ਪੁਲੀਸ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਉਹ ਅਪਰਾਧਿਕ ਪਿਛੋਕੜ ਵਾਲੇ ਹੋਰ ਵਿਅਕਤੀਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਨਾਲ ਰਲਾਅ ਕੇ ਯੂਪੀ ਅਤੇ ਨੇਪਾਲ ਦੇ ਰਸਤਿਓਂ ਅਸਲਾ ਵਗੈਰਾ ਮੰਗਵਾ ਕੇ ਭਨਿਆਰਾਂ ਵਾਲੇ ਨੂੰ ਮਾਰਨ ਸਮੇਤ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਵਿੱਚ ਹੋਰ ਵਾਰਦਾਤਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਅੰਜਾਮ ਦੇਣ ਦੀ ਫਿਰਾਕ ਵਿੱਚ ਸਨ। ਪੁਲੀਸ ਦਾ ਤਰਕ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਗ੍ਰਿਫ਼ਤਾਰੀਆਂ ਚੋਣਾਂ ਦੇ ਮੱਦੇਨਜ਼ਰ ਵਰਤੀ ਜਾ ਰਹੀ ਮੁਸਤੈਦੀ ਦਾ ਸਿੱਟਾ ਹਨ। ਐਸ ਐਸ ਪੀ ਹਰਦਿਆਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਮਾਨ ਨੇ ਪੱਤਰਕਾਰਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਗੱਲਬਾਤ ਕਰਦਿਆਂ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਕਿ ਕਾਬੂ ਕੀਤੇ ਮੁਲਜ਼ਮਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਗੁਰਦੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਆਲਮਪੁਰ ਵਾਸੀ ਪਿੰਡ ਆਲਮਪੁਰ (ਫ਼ਤਹਿਗੜ੍ਹ ਸਾਹਿਬ), ਅਮਰਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਾਲਾ ਵਾਸੀ ਮਿਰਜ਼ਾਪੁਰ-ਸੰਧਾਰਸੀ ਥਾਣਾ ਘਨੌਰ, ਜਸਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਯੋਧਾ ਵਾਸੀ ਪਿੰਡ ਹੁਲਕਾ (ਬਨੂੜ), ਸਮਰਦੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਸੱਮੀ ਵਾਸੀ ਪਿੰਡ ਗੀਗੇਮਾਜਰਾ, ਸੁੱਚਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਵਾਸੀ ਖੁੱਡਾ ਅਲੀਸ਼ੇਰ (ਮੁਹਾਲੀ) ਅਤੇ ਹਰਜਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਵਾਸੀ ਬੂੜੈਲ (ਚੰਡੀਗੜ੍ਹ) ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਸ਼ਾਮਲ ਹਨ। ਇੰਸਪੈਕਟਰ ਬਿਕਰਮਜੀਤ ਬਰਾੜ ਦੀ ਅਗਵਾਈ ਹੇਠ ਕਾਬੂ ਕੀਤੇ ਗਏ ਮੁਲਜ਼ਮਾਂ ਕੋਲੋਂ 315 ਬੋਰ ਦੀ ਇਕ ਰਾਈਫਲ ਅਤੇ 315 ਬੋਰ ਦੇ ਦੋ ਪਿਸਤੌਲ ਸਮੇਤ ਇਕ 32 ਬੋਰ ਦਾ ਪਿਸਤੌਲ ਵੀ ਬਰਾਮਦ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ। ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਨ ਨੇ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਕਿ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਵਿੱਚੋਂ ਗੁਰਦੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਆਲਮਮਪੁਰ, ਅਮਰਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਾਲਾ ਤੇ ਜਸਵੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੋਧਾ ਜ਼ਮਾਨਤ ’ਤੇ ਆਏ ਹੋਏ ਹਨ। ਜੋਧਾ ਬੁੜੈਲ ਜੇਲ੍ਹ ਤੋੜ ਕੇ ਭੱਜੇ ਭਿਓਰਾ ਦੀ 2006 ਵਿੱਚ ਦਿੱਲੀ ਪੁਲੀਸ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਕੀਤੀ ਗਈ ਗ੍ਰਿਫ਼ਤਾਰੀ ਦੌਰਾਨ ਨਾਲ ਹੀ ਫੜਿਆ ਗਿਆ ਸੀ ਤੇ ਉਦੋਂ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਕੋਲੋਂ 5 ਏਕੇ-47 ਰਾਈਫਲਾਂ ਅਤੇ 5 ਵਿਦੇਸ਼ੀ ਪਿਸਤੌਲ ਬਰਾਮਦ ਹੋਏ ਸਨ। ਗੁਰਦੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਆਲਮਪੁਰ ਨੇ ਜਗਤਾਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਹਵਾਰਾ ਦੇ 2004 ਵਿੱਚ ਬੂੜੈਲ ਜੇਲ ਵਿੱਚੋ ਫਰਾਰ ਹੋਣ ਵਿੱਚ ਮਹੱਤਵਪੂਰਨ ਭੂਮਿਕਾ ਨਿਭਾਈ ਸੀ ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਹਵਾਰਾ ਨੇ ਫ਼ਤਹਿਗੜ੍ਹ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਾ ਏਰੀਆ ਕਮਾਂਡਰ ਬਣਾਇਆ ਸੀ। ਉਸ ਖ਼ਿਲਾਫ਼ 13 ਕੇਸ ਦਰਜ ਹਨ। ਹਵਾਰਾ ਦੇ ਹੀ ਨਜ਼ਦੀਕੀ ਸਾਥੀ ਰਹੇ ਅਮਰਜੀਤ ਕਾਲਾ ਨੂੰ ਇਕ ਕੇਸ ਵਿੱਚੋਂ ਪੰਜ ਸਾਲ ਦੀ ਸਜ਼ਾ ਹੋਈ ਸੀ ਤੇ ਹੁਣ ਉਹ ਜ਼ਮਾਨਤ ’ਤੇ ਹੈ। ਉਸ ਖ਼ਿਲਾਫ਼ ਧੂਰੀ ਅਤੇ ਨੂਰਪੁਰ ਬੇਦੀ ਵਿਖੇ ਵੀ ਕੇਸ ਦਰਜ ਹਨ। Sikh Organisation For Prisoners Welfare (SOPW)

SikhiToTheMax.com has translations and lots of information on the side. SikhAnswers.com is a great website with a lot of commonly asked questions and very basic information about Sikhi. There are a lot of shabads (sung Word from Guru Granth Sahib - Guru of the Sikhs which is typically sung in raag).

You should read the words written of the Sikh Gurus. There teachings are compiled in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. If you start asking Sikhs, they will direct you in the wrong direction 99% of the time. There are alot of debates constantly taking place on main practices of Sikhi. To ignore all the chaos go directly to reading Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. For a link to read Sri Guru Granth Sah8b ji type into google search: Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji english translation. There is a pdf file that will come in the search. This link will take you directed to it. Just as you slowly discovered Sikhi in your life. Slowly learn from the Gurus teachings. Two teaches that you need to know before reading Sri Guru Granth Sahib. 1.Sikhs only believe in one God and his 11 Gurus who teach God's way of living. 2. If you become a Sikh. Only bow before Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as Your Guru. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the current and for all of time Guru of the Sikhs.

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Oh I don't know... A) 1 AM waking/feeding/diapering child #2. B) 3-4 AM milk demands of child #1. C) Managing kids for at least 3-4 hours of the day while meals are prepared. D) Managing kids while parents actually get sleep, not night naps for a few hours. It has been years since either of us managed 8 hours of sleep at night or anything close. E) As needed assistance with illness - that affects the entire family. F) Babysitting while parents actually get 2-3 hours per week to do luxury things like grocery shopping, car repairs and ironing clothes. We are not husband and wife to each other, we are mother and father to our kids. ​G) Doing above and maintaining an Amritvela, doing Simran, Paath, seva, attending Gurudwara divans - you know, BEING a Gursikh. H) Many MANY more things... Yes, I am sure I am a weak person who is not the Superdad and my wife is not Supermom, but we are two average parents trying to raise our kids. Funny how other Gursikhs in the area are facing the same challenges we are as parents, so we know we aren't the only ones. A few who have one have already commented that when they see us, they are scared away from having two - quite the handful they are. I have respect for the Akaal Takht Sahib and the Jathedar of the Akaal Takht Sahib - but making these proclamations have implications to those who take them seriously. The fact that Jathedar Sahib is sending out advisories that each family produce 4 kids is not realistic. Not everyone lives in a pind from the 1940s - people live in cities and there is not a support structure to maintain 4 kids for all people. Yeah, my grandmother had 11 kids - I also know she had a heck of a lot more family around her to assist with raising them. Not everyone lives with or has elders that help with kids. Money is a thing - anyone actually seen what it takes to fund a child through higher education? Physical capacity is a thing - not every person is Supermom-Superdad and has the capability of having 4 or more kids. The Sandesh puts me in a position to either not comply with it or to comply and basically ruin my life. This is not a situation that any person should be placed in. Does anyone realize the sheer energy and willpower to raise a child by parents? If any of you don't have children, sorry, you don't have a realistic understanding of what it takes. Ask those who do - half of the parents who actually make an effort to raise their kids right are out of their minds to make sure that their kids turn out right. It is absolutely correct to assert that the focus should be on the current youth that is suffering without any guidance. To make this a mandate for every Gursikh in the Panth is not in the realm of rational thought. I hope that this Sandesh gets publicized so the details can be reviewed to see if this is in the form of a plea or a mandate - if it is a mandate, it will make a mockery of the Jathedar position of the Akaal Takht Sahib because hardly any Sikh will give it any serious thought or consideration. Sorry...edited because the font and background was kinda annoying.

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CS-First, my point was not about Reyat specifically or his innocence. The victims were the most innocent and your clichéd distortion takes us further from justice for those victims. But you want an answer. Start with facts available to you, rather than relying on false and disrespectful “investigative reporting” around a massive tragedy. You help propagate those falsehoods. Here is one very short ‘answer’. Keep reading. Since you raise it, Reyat very well may be innocent at law. Exploring that properly may lead closer to some justice for those most innocent, being the families that died. Reyat was without a doubt prosecuted improperly at just about every stage. (Edward Greenspan the one of the leading criminal law scholars in Canada says this: “ Instead of engaging in "Enron accounting," the Crown should inform the public that this man is not getting away with murder, because he didn't commit murder.” & Read articles below). You need to do no more than read each of his cases and very few other facts that have arisen to to conclude there is a very likely miscarriage of justice. People decades from now will be talking about how Canada repeatedly through it’s actions and inaction disowned the “foreign” looking victims and their families while improperly participating in a witch hunt against Reyat. You ask who Reyat made the bombs for. How crass of you to opine at length on a tragedy of this magnitude and not be bothered to read very basic facts. He did not make bombs according to Crown. The Agreed Statement of Facts with Crown that formed part of the plea says as follows: In May and June, 1985, in the province of British Columbia, Mr. Reyat acquired various materials for the purpose of aiding others in the making of explosive devices. Mr. Reyat was told and believed that the explosive devices would be transported to India in order to blow up property such as a car, a bridge or something "heavy". Although Mr. Reyat acquired materials for this purpose, he did not make or arm an explosive device, nor did he place an explosive device on an airplane, nor does he know who did or did not do so. Read the articles below then reread hte following 3 paragraphs. Even the bare bones in the 2003 plea bargain is in question given the 1991 trial and ultimate lack of evidence in 2003. After reading the below articles one must ask where is the re-trial of the 1991 sham prosecution of Reyat if the truth around AI is so important? Not only was there a blatant non-disclosure of critical evidence that would have resulted in an acquittal, but incredibly an RCMP officer testified at the 2003 AI trial that sealed evidence itself was later tampered with at RCMP headquarters after the 1991 trial. This is about respect for those who were killed. The political layers of spin re Reyat, Parmar has not helped. Reyat’s case and an endless list of other uninvestigated issues should be of concern to anyone who is concerned about the truth re AI. Where is the investigation to determine whether this was an abuse of process, malicious prosecution, or criminal negligence? Where are those fearless leaders and media columnists who purport to care so much? Hiding behind you and your ilk, that’s where. Shame! ---- Reyat lawyers argued first trial unfair: transcript Blatchford, Christie. National Post [Don Mills, Ont] 18 Feb 2003: Crown says failure to tell defence about witness statement in '91 trial not an issue Disclosure problems over critical evidence from a key witness may have been a driving force behind the controversial plea bargain concluded in British Columbia Supreme Court this week with Inderjit Singh Reyat. That evidence, the National Post has learned, was first discovered by Reyat's current defence team only late last December and only began to be fully fleshed out last month. On Monday, the 51-year-old Reyat pleaded guilty to manslaughter for his role in gathering the ingredients used to make the terrorist bomb that blasted Air-India Flight 182 out of the skies on June 23, 1985, and killed 329 people, most of them Canadians. Anguished relatives of the victims immediately reacted with outrage and bewilderment to the sudden deal that saw Reyat given a five-year sentence. But the answer to their collective question -- why, after almost two decades of painstaking and multi-million-dollar investigation, would prosecutors agree to a deal less than two months before jury selection in the trial proper was set to begin? -- appears to be connected to Reyat's conviction almost 12 years ago in another bombing. That June day almost 18 years ago, two lethal bombs exploded within an hour of one another. The second was the one that caused the Air-India jet to be blown apart over the North Atlantic Ocean off Ireland. The first, contained in luggage that was destined for transfer to another Air-India flight, exploded in the New Tokyo International Airport in Narita, Japan. Two baggage handlers were killed. Reyat was charged with manslaughter in the Narita bombing and on May 10, 1991, was convicted after a judge-alone trial before Mr. Justice Raymond Paris of the B.C. Supreme Court, and later sentenced to 10 years in prison. Though there was a wealth of damning evidence against Reyat in that case -- cardboard and tape and other materials that matched fragments meticulously recovered from the blast and testimony from several witnesses who said Reyat had been trying to acquire dynamite that spring and was openly voicing his hatred for the Indian authorities over its army's bloody assault the year before on the Golden Temple in Amritsar, the holiest of Sikh sites -- arguably the most important single piece was a receipt for a Sanyo tuner bearing a rare stencil. That receipt, discovered at his Duncan, B.C., home, bore Reyat's name and appeared to show that he had personally purchased the tuner -- which sophisticated tests determined had housed the Narita bomb - - less than three weeks before the blast. Judge Paris referred at least seven times in his judgment to the supposed purchase by Reyat, and clearly accepted it as fact. In one such reference, for instance, the judge wrote that "records from a Woolworth's store in Duncan disclosed that the accused had purchased such a tuner on June 5, 1985." But, as Reyat's defence lawyers discovered recently, the Woolworth's clerk who had sold the tuner to two East Indian men had originally told police and later said in the presence of a prosecutor that Reyat was not one of them. The clerk's description of the buyer never matched Reyat's appearance, either in 1985 or now. Nor did composite sketches of the two men drawn from her description fit Reyat. Post sources independent of the courtroom -- where until about two weeks ago the Air-India trial judge, Mr. Justice Ian Bruce Josephson, was presiding over pre-trial motions involving Reyat's defence -- say this witness, Karen Smith, always maintained Reyat looked nothing like the two East Indian men in her store. At some point, Mrs. Smith apparently went to Reyat's workplace, Auto Marine Electrical, where she confirmed that the bearded, turbaned man was not one of the pair who had bought the tuner. A prosecutor, the Post has learned, was present with a police officer when Mrs. Smith was interviewed before the start of the 1991 trial, as is commonly done to prepare witnesses for court. In that interview, she reiterated her evidence that Reyat was not the man who bought the tuner. Geoff Gaul, a spokesman for the Crown's office, said late yesterday he couldn't confirm the prosecutor knew this information had not been disclosed to the defence, but said that regardless, "the Crown is confident that any non-disclosure of this sort in the previous trial would not have impacted" the Air-India proceedings. But the information was allegedly never disclosed to Reyat's lawyers, either those who represented him at trial in 1991 or at his subsequent unsuccessful appeal of his conviction at the B.C. Court of Appeal. In fact, the Post has learned from sources outside the courtroom, the first inkling the defence team had of Mrs. Smith's statements came almost accidentally just before the court break at the Air- India pre-trial last December, when the Reyat team was arguing a motion before Judge Josephson. During the holidays, the lawyers apparently did more digging, and by late last month, their allegations over improper prosecutorial disclosure had become the focus of another complex motion. It was, sources say, shortly after three police officers had testified that court broke again, and the first discussions between the prosecutors and Reyat's lawyers began. These were in the beginning geared at coming to what's called an "agreed statement of fact" surrounding Mrs. Smith's evidence and the disclosure issues, the aim to obviate the necessity of perhaps having to call the involved prosecutor as a witness. But the talks soon turned into full-blown plea resolutions and the deal that was formalized this week. Mr. Gaul, however, said the timing was "absolutely coincidental" and the disclosure issue "played no role whatsoever" in the plea discussions or eventual deal. The Post has obtained a transcript of Mrs. Smith's testimony at the first trial, where she was carefully questioned by prosecutor Richard Cairns. Mr. Cairns is a member of the team now prosecuting Ajaib Singh Bagri, who, with Ripudaman Singh Malik, still faces an array of charges, including murder, in both the Narita bombing and the Air- India one. It is their trial that is slated to begin March 31. Mrs. Smith's examination-in-chief was brief, and is contained on fewer than six pages. Much of it revolved around the actual bill and the customer receipt and the meaning of various numbers such as the store and product codes. Reading from the bill, Mr. Cairns then asked, "Then it says deliver to, and it's got, R-E-Y-A-T." Mrs. Smith replied, "That would be the name the customer gave me." "So that information was supplied by the customer?" Mr. Cairns asked. "Yes," said Mrs. Smith. A little later, Mr. Cairns asked her, 'Now, the individual that made this purchase, Mrs. Smith, can you describe him to the best of your ability?" "It was an East Indian customer," she said. "Is that the best you can do?" Mr. Cairns asked. "That's about it," she said. "And was he accompanied by anybody?" Mr. Cairns asked. "He was accompanied by another East Indian," she said. She was never asked what many lawyers consider the natural follow- up question -- that is, if she saw either of those East Indian men in the courtroom. A little later still, after some questions about another tuner that was used by prosecutors as a sort of control for comparison purposes, Mr. Cairns told Judge Paris, "No further questions, my Lord." One of Reyat's defence lawyers at the time, Mark Hilford, unaware of her earlier statements to police, conducted an even briefer cross- examination, and pressed Mrs. Smith only once for a better description of the two men. All she could say, she told him, was that one man was taller than the other, and that she had dealt mostly with the taller man. The alleged disclosure problem with Reyat's first trial, Post sources say, served both to weaken the case against him in the Air- India trial and arguably even to bolster the defence contention that he was only ever a low-level player who was, by Mrs. Smith's evidence, perhaps even set up to the degree that he was identified by the two mysterious East Indian men -- they have never been found or identified -- who were actually in the Woolworth's store and who provided the clerk with Reyat's name and phone number. Poignantly, after Reyat learned that he was being fingered as the purchaser of the tuner, he actually returned to the Woolworth's store in Duncan in an effort to confront the clerk and say it hadn't been him. This was apparently held out at the 1991 trial as evidence of what in law is called "consciousness of guilt." Judge Paris referred to it obliquely in his decision, saying Reyat "apparently attempted to persuade some Crown witnesses that their recollections and records of what he had done during the period leading up to the explosion were inaccurate." The judge noted that these actions were "consistent with those of a guilty person," but then added, presciently, "I hesitate to infer too much from them because in certain instances they could be consistent by themselves (though not in the context of this case) with the actions of an innocent person who was imprudently denying facts which he thought might wrongly inculpate him." Reyat didn't buy tuner used in Narita bombing, testimony reveals ROBERT MATAS Vancouver — From Wednesday's Globe and Mail Published Wednesday, Feb. 26 2003, 1:54 AM EST Testimony about a possible cover-up of crucial evidence in the Air-India case and about unexplained tampering with sealed information in a police file was heard shortly before a controversial plea-bargain deal was struck with Inderjit Singh Reyat.as struck with Inderjit Singh Reyat. The evidence, presented at the pretrial hearing last month, dealt with the purchase of a $129 Sanyo tuner that police believed contained the bomb that exploded on June 23, 1985, at Japan's Narita Airport, killing two baggage handlers. One hour later, a bomb explosion aboard an Air-India flight killed 329 people. Police allege the two bombs were placed on the aircraft in Vancouver by Sikh militants seeking revenge against the government of India. Karen Smith, the salesclerk who sold the tuner used in the Narita bomb, told police that Mr. Reyat was not the man who bought it, Edward Ross Drozda testified in B.C. Supreme Court on Jan. 29. Mr. Drozda, a retired RCMP officer who worked on the Air-India case from 1985 to 1992, also said that the clerk's statement to police may not have been disclosed to Mr. Reyat's defence lawyers when he was tried and convicted in 1991 of helping to make the bomb that killed the baggage handlers. The court prohibited the media from reporting Mr. Drozda's testimony until Tuesday. Mr. Justice Ian Bruce Josephson of the B.C. Supreme Court lifted the publication ban in response to an application from The Globe and Mail. Mr. Reyat was convicted in 1991 in part because of police evidence that indicated he had bought the tuner at a Woolworth store on June 5, 1985. The B.C. Court of Appeal upheld the lower court's decision, accepting that "the evidence established that [Mr. Reyat]purchased ... one of only five tuners which could have housed the bomb." Police linked the tuner to Mr. Reyat after tracing a fragment found at Narita Airport to a stock of tuners at a Woolworth store in Duncan, B.C., the town where Mr. Reyat lived. In August, 1985, police found an unsigned invoice at the store with "R-E-Y-A-T" written in the "deliver to" area. Under intense police questioning in November, 1985, Mr. Reyat said he bought the tuner and told police where they could find a copy of the receipt. However, Mr. Reyat has also contradicted himself, saying that a man staying at his home bought the tuner and took it with him when he left. Mr. Reyat has said he did not know the man's name. On the final day of testimony before prosecutors negotiated a plea bargain with Mr. Reyat, Mr. Drozda testified that the salesclerk gave a statement to police on Aug. 19, 1985, about selling the tuner to two South Asian men. About a month later, she informed police that she happened to see Mr. Reyat, and he was not the person who bought the tuner, Mr. Drozda said. Two days later, Ms. Smith described the purchaser while giving a statement to police while under hypnosis. Her description did not fit Mr. Reyat, the court was told. However, at Mr. Reyat's trial, neither Mr. Reyat's defence lawyers nor the prosecutors asked Ms. Smith whether the purchaser was in the court room.Although the pretrial hearing was stopped before Judge Josephson ruled on the significance of failing to disclose Ms. Smith's statements to police, the issue came up in court earlier on another matter. Mr. Reyat's lawyers had previously argued that evidence collected by police in his home in November, 1985, subject to a search warrant, should be excluded because his constitutional rights had been violated, in part, by the failure to include Ms. Smith's statements in the application for the warrant. Judge Josephson dismissed defence arguments about the importance of the failure to disclose the information, ruling on Dec. 13, 2002, that it "appears to have been through inadvertence." In his plea-bargain deal, Mr. Reyat admitted that he acquired material that was used for the Air-India bomb, but said he did not make the bomb or know who placed it on the airplane. He did not identify the bomb-making items he bought. During Mr. Drozda's testimony, the court also heard that an unidentified person had tampered with two boxes of sealed documents from the Narita trial. The boxes, stored at Vancouver RCMP headquarters, contained copies of documents setting out information disclosed to Mr. Reyat's defence lawyers during the Narita trial. Mr. Drozda testified that the boxes were sealed in 1992 after the trial. But on the day before he testified in the Air-India pretrial hearing, Mr. Drozda discovered the seal was broken. Some material had been removed and other material had been inserted, he said. Mr. Reyat has spent 10 years in jail for his role in making the bomb that exploded in Japan. Earlier this month, he pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the Air-India deaths, admitting he acquired materials that were used in that bomb.

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Winds of change my friend. Every 50 to 60 years around the world a wind of change blows. The wind is blowing and India is stupid if it thinks it can ignore it, for it is an unstoppable wind. Lets talk about Scotland for one moment, and remember, India - although it likes to call itself a 'democracy' - arrests, imprisons and tortures under achaic sedition laws anyone that even dares mention a separate homeland. In Scotland some people - not all, just some - articulated a desire to break up the UK and become an independant country. Now compare the UK response to the India response. See how a country needs to have democratic values before it can be termed a democracy. The UK government response was to engage the separatists in debate and also provide the separatists with free TV airtime during elections so that the debate can be held on an equal footing. After debate, the UK government have announced that a referendum will be held in Scotland this year asking all Scottish people this simple question : 'Do you wish to have your own independant country?'. The UK government wish them to say 'no' but have stated they will respect the wishes of the people. If the people vote 'yes' than the government is prepared to break up the UK and let the Scots go their own way. Now these, are the values of a democracy. Once Scotland goes, the Catalans around Barcelona will soon break away from Spain, the Basques in northern Spain and southern France will follow suit, Belgium will then cease to exist as the government in Paris is already in negotiation with the french speaking half of Belgium about incorporating it into France, and Quebec will follow too. That kind of wind is unstopable. A free Punjab is coming whether or not the Indians like it. It is for this reason we western Sikhs should concentrate on not only educating but also winning the hearts and minds of the Sikhs in Punjab. They have lost their way but its not their fault. They have not been allowed to know anything about the truth. Thats our job to teach them and show them. Enough of arguing with India. You can't reason with unreasonable people. Lets concentrate on getting our own people ready for the wind of change.

I'm not sure why you're using Hindi words to Punjabi speaking Sikhs, but there is no such word as 'gotra' in the Punjabi language. In Punjabi we have a word called 'gorth', perhaps thats what you mean ? Well you might be, and judging by your penchant for using Hindi words you probably are but... we're certainly not. We belong to a place called Punjab. It spent thousands of years being the easternmost province of Persia, totally seperate to the nation to its south called India and only became part of 'India' in 1947 after the Sikhs were lied to and hoodwinked into joining it after false promises of autonomous freedom.

Let's see this way: If tomorrow SGPC calls in indian police in golden temple just because someone start gathering to recite path or to even say protest. Now, would we support something the idea of SGPC called in boots police to come in. Btw, this happened in 1984. SGPC and Akali dal called in for central police.

Must read for Sikhs http://www.scribd.com/doc/112319834/Parasaraprasna-by-Sardar-Kapur-Singh-GurmatVeechar-com-pdf Though i dont agree with Kapur Singh views about Master Tara Singh but still i have respect for him . Anyone has Sachi Sakhi in english ?

Yeah, that's an option, what's wrong with it ? I sometimes do it. Nothin wrong with it.

Arvind Sharma • 19 days ago − Being a Hindu, I have seen nothing against my feelings as a Hindu in this movie. Its all against the corrupt system and fake government in center and state. try to see the people behind the faces. its not about me as a hindu or you as a sikh, its all about us as humans. but i think thousands of movies like this can not replace people's thinking about choosing right person for them,

When the movie is released on youtube, make it the most watched Indian movie if you can. That way the Bandar Sena, the Badals and their likes can know that imposing ban wont get them anywhere. Please do not pirate this movie.

This is how you do it , this guys got style. And these guys

You may be interested to listen to the Katha " Waheguru Mantar" by Gyani Takhur Singh Patiala , which is available on the following link amongst others:- http://www.gurbaniupdesh.org/multimedia/index.php?q=f&f=%2F04-Katha%2F13-Giani+Thakur+Singh+Ji+%28Patiala+Wale%29 All your questions will be answered in this Katha.