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  1. Don't think it's related to badals veerji. In my previous posts and in posts by other Sangat members a few years ago, they mentioned about how Khalsa Raj is in our lifetime. Many people like to dismiss this unfortunately and have no faith in Bachans of Mahapurakhs. What They tell us is just the end result. Khalsa Raj is going to happen in our lifetime, but when many people hear this they think we are referring to it happening magically without any work. All the events that are happening now are towards preparation of Khalsa Raj and all of these are in Vaheguru ji's khel. Bad times will be for those who do tyranny Bhul Chuk Maf ji Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh ji
    5 points
  2. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/akal-takht-jathedar-asks-all-sikhs-to-try-to-keep-licensed-weapons-101653328985989.html
    4 points
  3. It's about time they pivot back to the Panth, even if out of compulsion. Sadly though, many of our brethren back home will side with AAP and Kejriwals puppet, Bhagwant Mann, and actually oppose this message by pinning it as a survival attempt by Badal through proxy. Sitting from afar, it just goes to show what a convoluted mess we have back home.
    4 points
  4. I think we have no option but to accept [which we should, as Sikhs] and come to terms with the worldview of Guru Maharaj, based off of what we can gather from both Gurbani sources and other historical sources like rehitnamay etc. It’s the only way we can keep our sense of sanity and integrity in the chaotic middle gray space we find ourselves in, wedged in between competing megalithic civilizations. Our doctrines and ideals can’t be reformulated to suit the current whims of the people they serve because of the relative proximity to evidence our emergence timeline presents. Regarding your point about our parcharks (post-partition), I agree with you. I have also wondered the same listening to the visiting gyanis. I doubt the schools they learned from had any serious Arabic/Isalmic studies programs, lol. Probably, they had rudimentary commentaries akin to those high-school level world religion books. I think most paracharks are genuinely completely in the dark about the darkside of Islam. Add to that the ambiguity of sarbat da bhala without the asterisk. I won’t get into Gurbani references in this post (I will say, for now, there is no mention of Mmd or references to islamic /semetic stories and characters, save the odd one I may have missed to spot), but what is interesting is the rehitnamas and other 18th century and 19th century literature. It’s quite blunt in regards to Islam. Even our Four Kurehits appear more like a direct condemnation of Islamic customs, ie hooka hajamat halalo haram. The complete separation of food, habitation, and family from muslims that our elders practiced right upto partition speaks volumes. I think we have enough material to formulate a more appropriate approach to Islam and Muslims that won’t involve us holding umbrellas over them and renovating back old mosques. These next gen parcharks have info so readily available on youtbue about the darkness in Islam, it just needs to be understood and disseminated in Punjabi now.
    4 points
  5. From social media i see there is a huge and visible community of Sikh Punjabi community in Cali .. Frenso mainly i believe The largest Gurudwara in Sant Jose in US right. I'm sure you can find someone to meet your needs on marriage and on the other hand find Singhs with kes... See more out there with keeping Kes then Canada (just my 2cent don't get triggered)
    3 points
  6. They are jealous because they don’t wear anything to make them look regal!! Jealousy destroys everything. Sikh men and women who wear guru’s bana and are sabat soorat with flowing beards and dhumallas are the envy of the world. They are jealous because their souls are not blessed with a human birth in brown Sikh families because of their evil karmas in past lives!
    3 points
  7. Why would Hindutva create a situation where potentially there is another 5th column that threaten to break India in Punjab if they are allowing these franchises. It is not in their interest. That would be cutting their nose to spite their face. You would not have the Ghar Whapsi otherwise. Why would RAW do this either? It is not in their interest either.
    3 points
  8. Where is the news, this happens all day everyday, he should of just give him shitter, actually he should of twated him with a chupple .
    3 points
  9. Trying telling the sikh females to keep licenced weapons and learn shastar vidiya... the sexist b****** still believe they live in a man’s world and only men should wear shastar and learn the vidiya, totally brainwashed fat <banned word filter activated> to lazy to learn or lead disciplined lives. Look how obese they become after just one pregnancy and never even try to lose the weight gained. After all, that’s why god gave them huge traps so to eat and eat till they dead and gossip and do nindiya of everyone who walks upright with two legs. They will never learn.
    2 points
  10. And........(hate putting this out there) Paying sullay families that have had a member knocked off seems to be a well established cultural norm. I know of at least one case where this has happened in ends. Don't ask though. And another thing, yes Shri Guru Granth Sahib is our Guru ji, but the reality is that you need to bring in Dasam Granth and puratan rahitnamas (and other puratan literature like hukamnamas) to get a real gist of original Sikhi/Khalsa culture. Perceiving Guru ji as some equivalent of an abrahamic scripture doesn't cut it. Studying old rahits is very important and answers a lot of questions.
    2 points
  11. Good for you, hopefully with kirpa we stay on path. If I'm just doing simran and plan going back to sleep and taking a full bath later, then I like doing panj ishnana, just wash face,hands, feet. Saves time and no one else in house hears you.
    2 points
  12. Up at 2:30 with guru sahib's kirpa. Did 1 hour simran. There's so much garbage and darkness in my mind just starting to realize how bad my spiritual state is. Hopefully kirpa continues and I get up more consistently and can start washing away the dirt. Going back to sleep
    2 points
  13. The old man states that it was his father, kulwant singh, son of Hira Singh, that converted. Kulwant Singh was married to Khem Singh Bedi's granddaughter. It's interesting how he describes the process. His father had travelled to Iran and came under Islamic influence during his extended stay. Came back and started dining with muslims. Sikhs got suspicious and started harassing him to quit his islamic leaning. Kulwant singh took off with his wife, from one village to the next, with sikhs in pursuit, until he landed in a more powerful caste muslim village, where he settled in safety and cut his hair. The wife had little choice left I suppose and was renamed Zainab Bibi. The old man states that he recalls his mother as being mentally deranged during his childhood due to the trauma of separation from her whole extended family members. Even he seems to realize what an <banned word filter activated> decision his father made to convert as they lived in poverty afterwards, coming from powerful clans that owned thousands of acres of lands. At one point, the old man says his dad used to say " we come from a kaum that is the sardar of all kaums" (referring to his own Sikh origins). I'm sure kulwant singh regretted his decision, especially since 47' buried all possibility of reversal.
    2 points
  14. 1. I have to sadly agree with you. If the proliferation of apartheid Dera's continues and the present day Dharam Yudh of "Ik Nagri Ik Gurdwara" (only one united Gurdwara per pind in Punjab and in each locality in the West) then we are staring at demographic oblivion with the community heading towards minority status in east Punjab. 2. I disagree on that. Some of our people are stupid, yes. However, these demographic time bombs for east Punjab are ALL deliberate. i) Muhammad Izhar Alam the Genocidal Killer of Sikhs being appointed head of the east Punjab Waqf Board and tasked with the ultimate of re-activating and re-building 13,000 new Mosques in each and every village was no accident. ii) Churches being planted on strategic corners in every pind does not happen without RAW's connivance and support. You can bet your bottom dollar that if the same scenario happened in Gujarat, Modi and Amit Shah would tackle it in a flash. A lot of the ex-Punjab Police and cats who became active in the drugs trade in BC are heavily involved in the mushrooming up of these Churches. iii) Much of the land is also gifted direct by the Government to the RAW's apartheid pushing underlings (the non-Abrahamic Hindutva crowd working to break Sikhs away from Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj) as a quid pro quo that all revenues from the apartheid dera's will go to the pimps running those apartheid dera's. iv) You will never see a Mosque, a Church or a Dera Ballan apartheid dera ever raided by Punjab Police for drugs. These places are safe havens for drug dealing to destroy Sikh youth. vi) I can go on and on as I have studied this sytematic attempt to destroy the Sikh Panth but I have faith that the Truth of Sikhi will be strong enough to overcome these multi-pronged challenges. People that believe in the enslavement and Genocide of others and in the depravity of the caste simply cannot win. 3. Gurbani is about spiritually enabling us ordinary human beings to become better people and to enable Begumpura where no one suffers injustice or discrimination. Unlike the Abrahamic scriptures there is no blueprint in Gurbani that 20% of slave profits captured by the Muslim Ummah should go direct to Profit Muhammad's pocket. Sikhi arms us with Bibek Buddhi. We don't need Gurbani to spell out that we should not follow a Genocidal terrorist pedophile racist Slave Trader like Muhammad. Our own analysis of his demented life should be enough for that. The 2 billion Muslim demographics will sooner or later sink without trace once all Muslim read and analyse as to what kind of depraved person Muhammad the Slave Trader was. However, it is our job as Sikhs to ensure that in the interim before Islam and the other big Slavemaster Abrahamic faith both collapse they do not destroy innocent lives in east Punjab in the process. Similarly, and even more demographically important is that we do not allow the Hindutva apartheid pimps like Dera Ballan to prevent the re-integration of 60 million Nanakpanthi Sikhs of leatherworking ancestry back into the Sikh Panth and the fracturing apartheid divide and rule being implemented against Sikh villages in east Punjab with RAW's backing.
    2 points
  15. Correct on all you say Ranjeet Singh but I'd add: 1. It's actually a three-pronged approach as in order to turn Sikhs into a minority by the 2031 census a Hindu majority is not needed. i) So obviously there is economic labour migration from people perceived to be Hindu's but who with parchaar could readily become new sehajdhari Sikhs in most cases. These folks are essential for the economy of Punjab and provided we assimilate them as new Sikhs there won't be a problem if we simply educate them about our Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji from Bihar and Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. What is today perceived as a problem could turn into a massive demographic blessing for the Panth if we integrate and welcome new non-Punjabi's into the Sikh Panth. ii) Then you have the two Abrahamic communities who together are currently at around a matching percentage to Muslims in the UK. Both these communities oppose the BJP's anti-conversion and anti-love-jihad/baptism laws. The Christians are planting massive Christian crosses on strategic corners to the pinds where their business franchises are operating. The Muslims having wanted to annex east Punjab into Pakistan in 1947 were given free reign to reactivate and rebuild as many empty mosques by Muhammad Izhar Alam who was appointed head of the Punjab Waqf Board as a reward for his Genocide of so many Amritdhari Sikhs in the 1980's on behalf of the Gandhi family. Badal Dal appointed the killer's wife as an MLA. Hindutva should and does oppose the Abrahamics in their own ruled states. However, Sikhi represents the biggest indigenous threat to the corrupt Indian system and Hindutva out there and hence in east Punjab they are encouraged purely to tilt the scales towards Sikhs becoming a minority in Punjab by the 2031 census. Hindutva seeks to divide and rule whereas Sikhi would unify the poor under Sri Nishan Sahib for the betterment of society. iii) Last but not least and possibly the most important is the agenda by RAW to rebrand around 5-6 million Sikhs of Ravidasi and Mazhabi ancestry into tomorrow's Hindu Chamar and Hindu Balmiki votebanks for the BJP nowadays but it was the Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi who initiated this demented ideology with the end target being to leave Sikhs in a decisive minority in Majha and Malwa (given that we are already a minority in Doaba where many of us in the Diaspora have ancestors). The only way we can fightback against this evil agenda against our Panth is if we unite each and every pind in Punjab under a single united Gurdwara in this decade. There is simply no way for a community split by various apartheid franchise Dera's in a single pind to survive. When Sikhs were killed during the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of Sikhs were killed there and during the Congress Genocide of Sikhs none of the killers bothered to do a background check on the ancestry of the Sikhs they were killing and that's why desperately need to unite among ourselves as once we are United, no power on this planet cannot stop. United we stand, Divided we fall.
    2 points
  16. In 40 years when village Gurdwaras in Punjab are being attacked and Sikh girls are being coerced into Islam, would you suggest the victims start shouting, "Gurbani says pilgrimages and fasting is useless!"?
    2 points
  17. It's called Holy Terror. Didn't get great reviews.
    2 points
  18. Day 2, I woke up at 4 but didn't do ishnaan so idk if that counts.
    2 points
  19. << The Amritvela Challenge >> Dear everybody, welcome to the Amritvela Challenge. There is so much suffering in the world. To alleviate this, the source of life, the universe and creation, manifested themselves in the form of our Guru's to show the world a path to eternal peace and freedom that lies within each of us. To walk this path, our Guru's instructed us to rise in the golden hours of the morning and seek connection to that source through remembrance and bhagti (devotion). Through connection our pains will be lifted and we'll become truly strong. However, our mind's have been improsined by the forces of Maya, an entity which has mastered the power of illusion to imprison the mind's of all beings in the world. These forces will do their best to block us from connecting to the source as connection will free us completely from their rule. Maya will send its great warriors after us who we'll need to be ready to face. I invite everybody to join in on this journey, the path is open to all. Let's walk on this path together so that our chances of success are higher. Rules: 1. Getup everyday at amrtivela and try to connect with the source through simran, nitnetm, meditation etc.. Amritvela let's say is before 6am, so you should be starting your routine by 6 am. Try to pick one time that you can be consistent with and stick to it. If you can't get up at the time you pick, maybe get up later then over time getup a little earlier. 2. Post your streak daily, so that we can all keep each other accountable and uplift/motivate each other as a sangat. 3. If you miss one day, reset the streak to 0 and start again (don't feel guilty or beat yourself up, aim to improve more for next time). 4. Optional rule - Add the challenge to your profile signature. To do so, login and go to the top right corner and click your profile name and go under account settings and you should see the signature tab. Once there, you can Copy/Paste "(insert current streak here) IN THE AMRITVELA CHALLENGE" Notes: Let me know if there's anything you'd like to change about this challenge now or in the future. I made this so that we can actually support each other in getting up at amrtivela and make that a lifetime routine. This is a foundational routine that will totally change our lives for the better if we could be consistent enough. Not only would our spiritual lives change, but it would also transform your worldly life as a side effect. Imagine if you worked out after your routine then had a good breakfast, you would be fully charged for your day spiritually and physically. Then you could would be able to be very productive for the rest of the day and get a lot done and you'd build this positive cycle to compound your growth over time. This is probably the hardest habit to build but also the most rewarding. An idea I was thinking of was we could add ranks to be milestones for how many days you went as a fun incentive to keep going. So like 10 days could be a rank, then 20, 30, 60, 90 etc. I didn't know what to actually make the rank titles or descriptions. If you guys have ideas for that let me know.
    1 point
  20. I remember someone here I think, saying this man was their local MP and is useless https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10832589/Labour-MP-known-Catfish-Khalid-racist-bully-dumped-aide-refused-marry.html Labour MP 'known as Catfish Khalid was racist bully who dumped aide when she refused to become his second wife, hired a woman after stalking her online and refused to sack her over claims she exploited women at domestic abuse charity' A Labour MP for Birmingham has been accused of being a 'racist bully' by an ex Former aide and lover Elaina Cohen has taken MP Khalid Mahmood to court She alleges he fired her after she raised allegations he was protecting an abuser By MATT POWELL FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 11:12, 19 May 2022 | UPDATED: 13:58, 19 May 2022 A Labour MP dubbed 'Catfish Khalid' because he 'stalked' women online has been accused of firing his aide and ex-lover after she made allegations against a colleague. Elaina Cohen claims that Birmingham Perry Barr MP Khalid Mahmood was a 'racist bully' who ended their relationship when she refused to become his second wife. She says she was sacked after raising allegations that he was protecting a criminal abuser, a tribunal has been told. +3 View gallery MP Khalid Mahmood, 60, with his former girlfriend and aide Elaina Cohen, 62, who claims she was unfairly dismissed by the Birmingham MP (pictured together in 2009) She claims the relationship ended after she refused to become Mr Mahmood's second wife with an Islamic nikah [marriage ceremony]. The Times reported that she said: 'Khalid had misled me into believing his previous marriages were dissolved but I discovered in 2005 this was a lie. 'I was distraught at his false promises of marriage to two women at the same time.' The 62-year-old continued to work for Mr Mahmood, when in February 2018 he saw a whistleblower on a news report about a Midlands domestic abuse charity. The woman was Saraya Hussain, who Mr Mahmood soon after employed. +3 View gallery Share Ms Cohen alleged she found evidence that the domestic abuse charity worker had faced allegations that women in her care were being 'sexually exploited and blackmailed by her'. She said: 'I was told Saraya Hussain had put her speeding points on the licence of a woman by blackmailing her.' In February 2020, Ms Cohen confronted Mr Mahmood about his employee, she claimed he accused her of lying and being jealous. After she said he began 'ghosting' her and only communicated by email or WhatsApp. Ms Hussain worked for the Amirah Foundation, which closed amid allegations of 'financial irregularities' in 2018. It had been set up to to help victims of domestic abuse, particularly for women in the Muslim community. A statement from the charity’s trustees said an investigation 'discovered that both the CEO and Chair of Trustees were explicitly implicated' and the charity closed shortly after. Ms Cohen, who is Jewish, said she found that Ms Hussain had posted antisemitic messages on Facebook. Mr Mahmood allegedly downplayed this as they were not posted on an account with her professional name. Ms Cohen wrote: 'I was offended that he thought so little of me as a Jewish employee that he would not ask Hussain for the posts to be removed.' She reported the incident to police who recorded it as a non-crime hate incident. Cohen said that when she raised her concerns to senior Labour party members, she was ignored. Whatsapp messages were read out to the court in which Ms Cohen referred to Mr Mahmood as 'spiteful', a 'womaniser' and 'stupid'. She said some of the messages raised highlighted the ‘humorous banter’ between the pair. Counsel for Mahmood questioned why Ms Cohen should want to continue to work with the MP, she said she had hoped that he would improve. She said she was there to protect the vulnerable women who had told her they had been abused and not because she had a 'vendetta against Saraya Hussain'. The hearing at the London Central Employment Tribunal continues. Share or comment on this article: Labour MP 'known as Catfish Kha
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  21. I dont know if they are many gamers on here, but in my free time I do play retro games. I came across this great front end called core type r, so I built my first pack for it, including vids, cover art etc. Please if you a reto gamer head over and like and subscribe. I will add more content if its worth my while.
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  22. If anyone fancies a go at making ps3 disc images, I have just uploaded a tutorial today, need 1000 subs before you can make some cash, help a brother out lol
    1 point
  23. I am still sorting out my sleep schedule, but I feel 6am maybe too late now for amrit vela during the summer period, and actually 7am is better in some parts of winter.
    1 point
  24. It's been a few years since I stopped home console and PC gaming. I stopped portable 3DS gaming a few years ago and have been mobile gaming for some years now. I have been trying to get back into gaming on my XBOX one S, but things keep coming up, or sleep time keeps coming up lol I wouldn't mind getting into multiplayer gaming where we can make money from competitions such as League of Legends, Fortnight or creating Roblox games, can we make money from Apex Legends and Minecraft? We should create teams which sync well for competitions. Other games we should just play really casually and not get too serious.
    1 point
  25. Thanks will take a look! I am a former gamer stopped in 2015 or 16. Not retro, but last games I played would be Hitman Absolutions, Max Payne 3 and GTA 4. Best games would be San Andreas, Hitman series (though Hitman 2 on PS2 version mentions "Gurudwara" and "Terrorist in 1984" in the game manual, unforgivable)! And Rainbow Seven 1 and 2 and Splinter cell series.
    1 point
  26. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10844579/University-nursing-lecturer-struck-mocking-Sikh-wearing-turban.html University nursing lecturer who mocked his Sikh colleague for wearing a turban by asking 'where's your hat?' is struck off Maurice Slaven has been stripped of his nursing licence for racial harassment He repeatedly mocked a Sikh colleague's faith and called his turban a 'bandage' Mr Slaven being struck off ends a 22-year career for the former RAF man By CHAY QUINN FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 09:28, 23 May 2022 | UPDATED: 10:44, 23 May 2022 View comments A nursing lecturer has been struck off after repeatedly mocking his Sikh colleague's turban. Maurice Slaven, a child nursing lecturer at Anglia Ruskin University, repeatedly degraded his colleague's traditional headdress as a 'hat' and a 'bandage' and referred to Sikhs as 'you lot'. Mr Slaven has now been stripped of his nursing licence by the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC) - ending a 22-year career for the former RAF man. The former nurse had worked at NHS hospitals in the past and mocked the founder of the Sikh religion Guru Nanak. Cambridge-based Slaven is understood to have qualified as a children's nurse in 1997 in Edinburgh. He racially harassed 'Colleague 1', a senior nursing lecturer, at Anglia Ruskin University for over two years between October 2016 and December 2018, the NMC tribunal heard. The offensive lecturer, who has worked at NHS hospitals across the country, claimed it was 'banter between friends'. Referring to Colleague 1's turban, Slaven said 'why aren't you wearing your bandage?' and also asked 'where's your hat?', before insisting 'no, it's a hat' when his co-worker corrected him. Slaven told Colleague 1 'you seem to take all the religious holidays off, and even Christmas and that's not your holiday' and 'you lot, Sikhs, have all these religious holidays'. When discussing a charity appeal for toys for Sikh children, Slaven said: 'What Sikh Toys? Do you mean daggers, knives and swords?' He once stated: 'Me and Guru Nanak are best buddies, I know him really well and he said he'll be dressing up as Father Christmas this year.' He also once remarked 'Indians came to the UK in a banana boat'. Slaven admitted the charges but did not attend the hearing. A tribunal report said: '[The NMC] considered the misconduct to be serious because Mr Slaven was in a position of trust teaching future nursing professionals. 'He was required to be a role model for students and staff, and his behaviour towards Colleague 1 represented a significant departure from the standards expected of a nurse. 'Mr Slaven held a position of influence over future nurses. 'Colleague 1 expressed fear for 'ethnic minority students who could be unfavoured by him in terms of teaching'.' On an online profile for Slaven on the Anglia Ruskin University website, it states one of his research interests is investigating religion and death.
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  27. I think if there is any group of people who are acutely and hawkishly aware of their own self interests it's our desi rural brethren. People here are worried about the situation back home, but they need to realise that many of us in the diaspora will have our own issues to contend with vis-à-vis assimilation, conversions, rising white nationalist right-wingism etc. etc. over the next few decades (especially in the UK and US). In the end we'll all be fighting our own battles for survival. People back home will realise and contend with their situation when it comes to it. I mean they are in a better position than the rest of us because of population density and numbers. I just see it as a simple, relatively underdeveloped people about to go through the steep end of the learning curve myself.
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  28. anyone know the singh at the far right? look like sant giani mohan singh ji a bit
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  29. What you worried about. We can always call this guy to save the day:
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  30. Guru Sahib himself said Rangretta Guru Ka Beta, devotion is more important.
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  31. Hmmm interesting conundrum, from what I am aware he sounds like another Sri Chand, blood is nothing if you don't follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji and and become one with bani.
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  32. These rough and ready "banter" types need to recognise boundaries as soon as you come across these types of guys. If you're one of those pappus that giggles nervously when goreh like this guy start dropping nonsense into conversations to see if there's going to be any resistance or pushback, you're basically done for. All it takes is a "shut your f****g mouth, you wan**er!" with a laugh to establish limits. Say something off-colour about something you know he holds dear. That's usually enough to let him know you aren't a total pondhu.
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  33. It seems the past 10 years of feeding the Sikh mind with Sufi / Islamophilic culture has done its job. Its softened up the Sikh mind to open themselves up to people they should keep at arm's length. I don't believe any of this romanticisation of Islamic culture in Punjab over the past few years is an accident.
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  34. i agree with you 100%. If a group wants to end their own existence by doing stuff like this then such a group doesn't deserve to exist.
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  35. Dude, someone could type something like that in a few hours. What is this document, which org published it, it needs context.
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  36. My first console was the N64 back in the late 90s, so innovative. That and the PS4 have been my faves.
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  37. This video says that a descendent of Guru Nanak converted to Islam. Some woman is named as converting. She wouldn't have been the one to initially convert. Women is those days did whatever their husbands did, and most likely it was the hisband who converted and she had no choice but to follow. Sad as it is if it's true, but those days were like that. I've seen this before in a family of Bedi's in Malaysia where the man converted and his wife had no choice but to convert with him.
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  39. I know ps3 was the bomb lol now its retro to all the youngsters haha
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  40. It's hard to tell, but what I think is highly likely is that if we have a stronger 'Panjabi cultural identity' than a Sikh one, we'll be forever complaining about the other communities that put their faith first over their culture and how they are more cohesive than us, and achieve more. I recognise we can't be all sombre and serious all the time as a quom, and that fun is essential in life, but I guess it's the context and arrangements for this that make a difference. We know we've actually helped put some of our own in the hands of predators in the past through this. A balance has to be achieved, and me personally, I think that a strong primary Sikh identity with a deeply rooted (but shrewd) empathy and brotherly/sisterly affection for your own, and a desire and will to actively participate in developing your community is paramount. Folk dancing can be a fun, temporary relief from things, but when we excessively focus on that to the detriment of developing in other key areas, we'll only be at a constant disadvantage to other more astute, better organised, forward thinking groups.
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  41. Day 1 again up at 6 am
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