Why Nanaksar Ragiis Are Celibate

[singhbj singh]

GURU NANAK DEV JI ANG 952

RAAG RAAMKALEE (SGGS)

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First Mehl:

so paakhanddee j kaaeiaa pakhaalae |

He alone is a Paakhandi, who cleanses his body of filth.

kaaeiaa kee agan breham parajaalae |

The fire of his body illuminates God within.

supanai bindh n dhaeee jharanaa |

He does not waste his energy in wet dreams.

this paakhanddee jaraa n maranaa |

Such a Paakhandi does not grow old or die.

bolai charapatt sath saroop |

Says Charpat, God is the embodiment of Truth;

param thanth mehi raekh n roop |5|

the supreme essence of reality has no shape or form. ||5||

Source - http://igurbani.com/?shabadid=3484&id=40683

kaajee so j kaaeiaa beechaarai |

He alone is a Qazi, who contemplates the human body,

kaaeiaa kee agan breham parajaarai |

and through the fire of the body, is illumined by God.

supanai bindh n dhaeee jharanaa |

He does not lose his semen, even in his dreams;

this kaajee ko jaraa n maranaa |2|

for such a Qazi, there is no old age or death. ||2||

Source - http://igurbani.com/?shabadid=4136&id=49636#bmb=1

Someone spoke about Sadhu/Sant/Bhagat/Gurmukh married to Parmeshar at Baru Sahib Annual Smagam 2016 commemorating Sant Attar Singh ji.

Giani Gurdev Singh ji might know the verse can somebody verify .

[sikhni777]

[simran345]

Gyani Gurdev Singh ji's Kirtan, I like. ✔️

ਸੰਤ ਭਗਤ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਭਾਇਆ ॥

संत भगत परवाणु जो प्रभि भाइआ ॥

Sanṯ bẖagaṯ parvāṇ jo parabẖ bẖā▫i▫ā.

That saint and devotee becomes acceptable to the Lord whom He loves.

ਸੇਈ ਬਿਚਖਣ ਜੰਤ ਜਿਨੀ ਹਰਿ ਧਿਆਇਆ ॥

सेई बिचखण जंत जिनी हरि धिआइआ ॥

Se▫ī bicẖkẖaṇ janṯ jinī har ḏẖi▫ā▫i▫ā.

Wise are the persons, who meditate on their Lord.

ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ਭੋਜਨੁ ਖਾਇਆ ॥

अम्रितु नामु निधानु भोजनु खाइआ ॥

Amriṯ nām niḏẖān bẖojan kẖā▫i▫ā.

They partake of the food of the Nectar-Name the treasure of all the virtues

ਸੰਤ ਜਨਾ ਕੀ ਧੂਰਿ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਲਾਇਆ ॥

संत जना की धूरि मसतकि लाइआ ॥

Sanṯ janā kī ḏẖūr masṯak lā▫i▫ā.

The dust of the pious persons feet, they, apply to their forehead.

SGGS Ang 652

?? Dhan Guru Ram Das ji

?? Waheguru, lovely shabad he said.

[sikhni777]

Interesting threads on the same topic

http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/6827-how-to-become-celibate-when-married/

http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/17628-why-nanaksar-ragiis-are-celibate/#comment-161154

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Sudh Jab Te Ham Dhari, Bacan Gur Dae Hamare,

Put Ihe Pran Tone Praan Jab Lag Ghat Thare,

Nij Nari Ke Sath Neh Tum Nit Bodhaio

Par Nari Ki Sej Bhul Supne Hu Na Jayo

Ever since I came of age, the Guru instructed me thus:

Son, take an oath and keep it as long as there is life in you,

Love thy legal wife ever and ever so much that

Not even in a dream should you share the bed of other woman.

Dasam Patshah, Tria Chritar.

[jkvlondon]

Bhagat Kabir ji's bani says it out straight, in Gauree Kabir ji (324-5)

ibMdu rwiK jO qrIAY BweI ] (324-7, gauVI, kbIr jI) bind raakh jou taree-ai bhaa-ee. If someone could save himself by celibacy, O Siblings of Destiny,

KusrY ikau n prm giq pweI ]3] (324-7, gauVI, kbIr jI) khusrai ki-o na param gat paa-ee. ||3|| why then haven't eunuchs obtained the state of supreme dignity? ||3||

khu kbIr sunhu nr BweI ] (324-8, gauVI, kbIr jI) kaho kabeer sunhu nar bhaa-ee. Says Kabeer, listen, O men, O Siblings of Destiny:

rwm nwm ibnu ikin giq pweI ]4]4] (324-8, gauVI, kbIr jI) raam naam bin kin gat paa-ee. ||4||4|| without the Lord's Name, who has ever found salvation? ||4||4||

forget all the so-called trappings and concentrate on Naam , without which no-one achieves anything

[MisterrSingh]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Sudh Jab Te Ham Dhari, Bacan Gur Dae Hamare,

Put Ihe Pran Tone Praan Jab Lag Ghat Thare,

Nij Nari Ke Sath Neh Tum Nit Bodhaio

Par Nari Ki Sej Bhul Supne Hu Na Jayo

Ever since I came of age, the Guru instructed me thus:

Son, take an oath and keep it as long as there is life in you,

Love thy legal wife ever and ever so much that

Not even in a dream should you share the bed of other woman.

Dasam Patshah, Tria Chritar.

The above is more to do with adultery than it is about celibacy.

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

It also very plainly points out that married life is fully accepted in Sikhi and how the conduct of a husband towards his wife should be - a loving, fulfilling relationship. While we all should have respect for celibate Sikhs, there should never be a compulsion to assign any spiritual superiority to a celibate than a householder. A celibate Sikh is making a choice in his/her life to follow that path - there is no direction in Gurbani towards celibacy being accorded any special status.

I repeat this point because there are plenty of Sikhs who are stuck in Baba culture, giving them special respect for their unique lifestyles (including celibacy).

[singhbj singh]

Guys there are many verses in favour of Grehasti's and some which are not.

Call it choice or Destiny some people are meant to be celibate Mahapurakhs.

Many taking celibate path will become notorious & corrupt so watch out !

[scali]

Most married men after a few kids wish they were celibate.

Anyway per Anand Chamatkar 5.Vols Biography of Baba Nand Singh. He didn't twist anybodies arm to stay with him. Women could visit him if accompanied by Father, brother or husband. To enter or exit celibate order is ones free will. I have seen then come and go no big deal.