Trying to give up eating meat

[Jacfsing2]

12 hours ago, Akalllllll said:

Hunt your food or do jhatka supermarket stuff off limits its killed inhuman manner maybe cross contamination halal food n filled with drugs.

Meat milk make you very physically strong I have done both way vegetarian and meat only. Meat will get you a physique that with whey protein cant and the amount of whey needed to make the equivalent is tons.

But veggie you have less lean mass strength is not as much and the high amount of carbs is damaging to liver and make it fat. Plus insulin issues etc. Indian food with balance of meat is best make your food with ghee extra virgin olive oil. Avoid soy vegetarian oil canola soy makes estrogen higher.

 

Bandi Khalsa was vashnoo they didnt eat garlic or onion and jhatka meat. But tat Khalsa did jhatka and easily defeated bandi Khalsa in wrestling.

Guy on youtube eats raw meat his testosterone went higher two twins one vegan the other with meat diet. Vegan lost weight but lean mass and the other gained weight but more in lean mass then fat.

Babbar Khalsa doesn't eat meat and they've been the fighting more than people eating Butter Chicken and goat masala. 

[MisterrSingh]

On 4/3/2022 at 12:28 PM, Jacfsing2 said:

Usually at manmukhi farms, they tend to feed the animals food that is dangerous a long with not treating animals with daya. 

Either way the animal is getting killed and eaten. The "daya" is to assuage the conscience of the people who work at these places. It's not because they pity the animal.

[dallysingh101]

5 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Either way the animal is getting killed and eaten. The "daya" is to assuage the conscience of the people who work at these places. It's not because they pity the animal.

Do you think jhatka is a modern thing amongst Sikhs then? 

[proudkaur21]

2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Either way the animal is getting killed and eaten. The "daya" is to assuage the conscience of the people who work at these places. It's not because they pity the animal.

But my question is that if hunting and eating meat is wrong according to dharam then what would people who live in extremely cold climates where barely any vegetation grows would eat? These people depend on the animal products to get their nutrition. The problem is that the way animals are being killed and treated due to industrialization of the meat industry. Back then people would hunt their food and eat it and i don't think anyone ate meat all 3 times of the day. They ate a well balanced diet. But now it is like people have become addicted to meat due to fast food and all and it is in everything which has increased the demand for meat and hence the entire meat industry which makes the animals suffer and live in pain due to such a high demand of meat.

[MisterrSingh]

29 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

But my question is that if hunting and eating meat is wrong according to dharam then what would people who live in extremely cold climates where barely any vegetation grows would eat? These people depend on the animal products to get their nutrition. The problem is that the way animals are being killed and treated due to industrialization of the meat industry. Back then people would hunt their food and eat it and i don't think anyone ate meat all 3 times of the day. They ate a well balanced diet. But now it is like people have become addicted to meat due to fast food and all and it is in everything which has increased the demand for meat and hence the entire meat industry which makes the animals suffer and live in pain due to such a high demand of meat.

You're asking the wrong person. Despite being a vege myself I have absolutely no problem with Sikhs who choose to meat. In fact, in recent years I'm starting to suspect the non-meat eaters were hoodwinked into adopting a Jain-esque mentality, lmao. I was just playing Devil's Advocate considering that whether you fatten something up with kindness or kick it around cruelly, ultimately it's getting its throat cut.

[SinghPunjabSingh]

12 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

 people who live in extremely cold climates where barely any vegetation grows would eat?

The natives in Nunavut etc and other indigenous tribes really had no choice and clearly in such circumstances or times of war when no other foods are available the Khalsa Fauj would sustain themselves via whatever was available.

However, in the West in the 21st century it is more than easy enough to avoid consuming meat. If folks are only eating meat to keep their taste buds happy in the West then one day we never know aliens could very well make the same argument that human flesh tastes as good to them as a prime beef steak or roasted pork chops or barbecued chicken does to humans! 

[Premi5]

How is it going , have you given up meat @redoptics2013?

Further to this, I have heard second hand from a relative who told us ( I don’t know the Katha source) that apparently Halaal was meant as a way to discourage Muslims from eating meat because of how cruel the method is , but this got lost somewhere.

Makes sense if one is killing animals individually themselves

 

[ipledgeblue]

On 1/2/2023 at 9:36 AM, Premi5 said:

Further to this, I have heard second hand from a relative who told us ( I don’t know the Katha source) that apparently Halaal was meant as a way to discourage Muslims from eating meat because of how cruel the method is , but this got lost somewhere.

Makes sense if one is killing animals individually themselves

 

Actually, the prophet got a lot of islamic rituals from jewish traditions. This obviously includes the way animals are slaughtered as well. This method is also used on captives and was used on the younger sahibzadas, BabaJoravaar Singh and Baba Fateh Singh while they were being bricked alive.

 

On 4/5/2022 at 12:55 PM, Jacfsing2 said:

Babbar Khalsa doesn't eat meat and they've been the fighting more than people eating Butter Chicken and goat masala. 

but they haven't been fighting longer than the shastardhari Singhs from Budha Dal and Tarna Dal, who do jhatka and shikaar as part of their normal puraatan rehit. A few months ago somebody posted a youtube video of goat briyani langar at Takht Sri Hajoor Sahib for the sangat jee. I have doubts about Babbar Khalsa reading Kabyo Baach benti Chaupai properly and I think they probably stumble at "Kripa Kari hum par jagmata" before even reaching Arril... vegetarianism will not save a sikh from not reading Chaupai Sahib properly!

[1Anonymous1]

53 minutes ago, ipledgeblue said:

but they haven't been fighting longer than the shastardhari Singhs from Budha Dal and Tarna Dal, who do jhatka and shikaar as part of their normal puraatan rehit. I few months ago somebody posted a youtube video of goat briyani langar at Takht Sri Hajoor Sahib for the sangat jee. I have doubts about Babbar Khalsa reading Kabyo Baach Chaupai properly and I think they probably stumble at "Kripa Kari hum par jagmata" before even reaching Arril... vegetarianism will not save a sikh from not reading Chaupai Sahib properly!

This is the most ignorant statement I have read on this forum lmao