Sikh Farmers vs Muslim Gujjar clash in Majitha, Amritsar

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2 minutes ago, SikhKosh said:

The easiest and best solution is to get Hindu right wing involved in Punjab. This way you get your work done (taming Christians and Muslims) and BJP center won't say anything. Remember what we were doing when RSS was crying about Sikhs converting to Christianity 20 years back ? We were attacking RSS because we prefered abrahamic missionary religions due to the false notion of being common minorities than letting RSS do their job. We were in fact OBSTRUCTING RSS when they were doing ghar vaapsi of Sikhs who had become Christians. We are a bunch of fools and know nothing about chanakya niti, we are to afraid to manipulate people, qaums or nations. This is one thing that needs to change because even people on this forum do not realize the need to play things in a smart way.
Every single action against the Muslims in Punjab will have repercussions for Sikhs in Kashmir, Pakistan etc. Hence the best thing is to covertly get things done without making too much noise on social media. But as my elders used to say, we Sikhs even take credit for killings we haven't done. That is our mentality which needs a change.

I agree with you 100%. On our side we need to unite and we need to have Panthic organisations similar to the RSS and Bajrang Dal. Until the gandh of the Badal took over Akali Dal we have Jathas attached to each Gurdwara and we could count on getting a couple of thousand Sikhs together at short notice. The lack of mobiisation is what we suffer from. If on the first day when the events happened  5000 Sikhs had gathered around the village, the local administration and the police would have wet themselves and been running around seeking a resolution to the issue.  So instead of them writing out FIRs against the kisans we could have used the threat of mob violence to make sure the FIRs were just for manslaughter and not murder and our people could have got out on bail in a few days instead of them being on the run or afterwards facing languishing in jail for years before betting bail. We still do not understand the power of the mob in the Indian political system. The Gujjars understood this so they not only managed to get all the FIRs registered against the Kisans but also stopped any FIRs against the Gujjars who had attacked the Sarpanchni's husband and left him half dead. 

Amritpal Singh Sandhu is now the president of Waris Punjab De and his take on this issue is one I don't think any Sikh will have any objections to. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, SikhKosh said:

Oh comeon, Sikhs have been crying about RSS for decades. We have become a joke because it seems we have a psychological fear of RSS just the way Muslims have one from  Jews and tend to blame everything on them and fear them for their intellect and shrewdness.

 

Veerji I don't mean that we should fear RSS . What I meant by my above posts is that we shouldn't rely on RSS alone to handle the Gujjar problem in our Pinds and in our territory. We need to be able to defend ourselves as well

 

6 minutes ago, SikhKosh said:

RSS is already there. They are already handling Muslims at their own level. Last time they clashed with Muslims in Phagwara, Sikhs took no time to rush to that spot to support these Muslims. Is this what you want? Embolden Muslims ?
The Punjabi Hindu does not have the spine to stand against Sikhs, therefore I do not fear them. But the Gujjar will not hesitate to attack, rape and commit mass murder of Sikhs. 

Thus I am asking to stop obstructing RSS when they attack Muslims or Christians. Use their cover and do what you have to do as well.

If you send Singhs to surround villages here in Punjab, expect similar reactions from Pak Muslims to Pak Sikhs. In '92 Hindus destroyed the Babri Mosque in India. But Sikhs were targeted along with Hindus in nearly every Muslim country (Pak, Afghan etc). Therefore openly doing things and especially posting about it on social media is not a good thing.

Hanji veerji I understand. I may not understand the level at which RSS is handling Muslims. The only thing I feel that we should be alert about is that we need to ensure our Pinds are in our Control

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10 minutes ago, SikhKosh said:

Oh comeon, Sikhs have been crying about RSS for decades. We have become a joke because it seems we have a psychological fear of RSS just the way Muslims have one from  Jews and tend to blame everything on them and fear them for their intellect and shrewdness.

 

I think we don't even have to get involved so much, watch this video which is about when some Hindutvis protested against Muslay coming out of the Mosque every Friday shouting the slogan "Allah Hu Akbar", look at how our so called Panthic media and Panthic leadership went running to stand with the Muslims. What do we gain from this? These people will never support us if we face any issues and they stood with the Kashmiri paedophile last year and yet we bend over backwards for them. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, proactive said:

I think we don't even have to get involved so much, watch this video which is about when some Hindutvis protested against Muslay coming out of the Mosque every Friday shouting the slogan "Allah Hu Akbar", look at how our so called Panthic media and Panthic leadership went running to stand with the Muslims. What do we gain from this? These people will never support us if we face any issues and they stood with the Kashmiri paedophile last year and yet we bend over backwards for them. 

 

 

 

The Panth can be a bunch of goody 2 shoes boy scouts. 

They would do this for a glass of dudh and biskoot 

[Jai Tegang!]

16 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

When the gianis and parcharaks of Punjab have spent most of my lifetime (of what I can recall) calling these devils, "Sadhe Musalmaan bhai" whilst sitting across from Guru Granth Sahib Ji - because these religious smooth-brains think they're sticking it to the Hindu political machine - the repeated enactment of this policy which was formulated at the very summit of modern Sikh religious institutions tends to convey a tolerance of Islam and its followers: more than tolerance in fact, a desire for a very close relationship.

In recent times, in this social media age, this pro-Islam directive that was disseminated on the stages of Sikh gurdwaras in India, has started to bear fruit in not just religious circles but cultural ones as well. But it's not bearing fruit for us; it's actually poison for our people. How it's bearing fruit is that we've signalled to Muslims that we're their subordinates. We've spent so much time and effort "presenting" ourselves (if there's any wildlife / nature enthusiasts reading, you'll know what I'm referring to) that Muslims have finally taken us up on our offer.

I made a post a few years about how that one careless Instagram post of a Sikh holding an umbrella over a praying Muslim is a monumental cultural error that will probably go down as a visual marker for (one of the many reasons) why we lost Punjab. I never mentioned it at that time because I assumed I was jumping the gun, but now it seems like an inevitability, and I wish I hadn't second-guessed myself: when they start "handling" our females in our own land, there's no turning back from that. That's as politely as I'm willing to put it. Because it won't all be rape and activities under duress. Some of it's going to be choice. I hope that will finally lead to some of us waking up. I don't think it will, though.

Our quom REACTS once the barn door is gaping open and the horse has bolted. We do not PLAN. The time to have started to tackle this issue was around the turn of the century; perhaps definitely around 2005 onward. Unfortunately, any reaction to this will come when our women are being gang-raped by Musleh in our own villages, and our village gurughars are being attacked. You know what these desert devils will say? "You were opening up your Gurdwarehs for us to pray when we never asked you to. Now these buildings belong to us because WE'RE COMMANDING you!" At that point, there's no use in getting gassed and booking an emergency flight to Amritsar and trying to do something. 25 years too late.

Never-mind, though, ey? "Caneda jaana"  to be a f****g Punjabi degenerate.

And I get stick for telling it how it is. I'm not going to stop, because your babeh and your mahapurash have failed you all.

 

Couldn't agree more! Our youth have been let down by these gatekeepers who have essentially turned us into sitting targets from every little <banned word filter activated> that so chooses to f with us. Missionaries, gujjars, rss. These are types we didn't even consider competition let alone a serious threat in the previous century. We were holding our own admist a clossal muslim majority for the majority of the Panth's existence, and it was no umbrella service that enabled that. 

 

[Jai Tegang!]

17 hours ago, SikhKosh said:

Impressed by this mona brothers speech. Pretty clued up for a Punjabi from back home. Watch it at 1.5x speed though.

 

So glad to see a young brother clued up on not just the local sistuation but also on what starts in the UK and ends up in Lahore's hira mandi.

Also Waris Punjab De's Amritpal Singh Sandhu is a ray of hope for the youth.

These gujjars have spread all over punjab and wherever they can purcahse land to permantly settle, that essentially means there won't be sikhs there in 20 years. One of the two gujjars killed had taken his <banned word filter activated> out and threatened to rape the sarpanch's womenfolk was only 18 and had 4 kids already. I've seen their deras aswell. It looks like a nursery. Plus, these are no soft muslims. They are natorious for keeping loads of aasla (weapons, guns) and kidnapping mentally challenged to salve away at their deras. They traffic them within their network of deras to prevent any tracing.

This is [was?] the perfect time to drive out these milk spitters back into jammu and kashmir.

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9 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

So glad to see a young brother clued up on not just the local sistuation but also on what starts in the UK and ends up in Lahore's hira mandi.

Also Waris Punjab De's Amritpal Singh Sandhu is a ray of hope for the youth.

These gujjars have spread all over punjab and wherever they can purcahse land to permantly settle, that essentially means there won't be sikhs there in 20 years. One of the two gujjars killed had taken his <banned word filter activated> out and threatened to rape the sarpanch's womenfolk was only 18 and had 4 kids already. I've seen their deras aswell. It looks like a nursery. Plus, these are no soft muslims. They are natorious for keeping loads of aasla (weapons, guns) and kidnapping handicapped/mentally challenged to salve away at their deras. They traffic them within their network of deras to prevent any tracing.

This is [was?] the perfect time to drive out these milk spitters back into jammu and kashmir.

Their whole income is the sale of milk. During lockdown there was a boycott against their milk in a few places in Punjab and even Al Jazeera and the New York Times reported on this, then the liberal hara.mis got involved and got the boycott stopped by the administration. If a boycott is started all over Punjab these people would have no income and they would eventually leave Punjab or at least the rural areas. 

Muslim farmers in Punjab are facing boycott and Tablighi Jamaat must be blamed for this (tfipost.com)

 

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2 minutes ago, proactive said:

Their whole income is the sale of milk. During lockdown there was a boycott against their milk in a few places in Punjab and even Al Jazeera and the New York Times reported on this, then the liberal hara.mis got involved and got the boycott stopped by the administration. If a boycott is started all over Punjab these people would have no income and they would eventually leave Punjab or at least the rural areas. 

Muslim farmers in Punjab are facing boycott and Tablighi Jamaat must be blamed for this (tfipost.com)

 

Who got the boycott removed?

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15 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

Who got the boycott removed?

There were lots of videos about Gujjars suffering and the Captain to please his musli girlfriend got the police to remove it. The boycott was easily stopped because there was no real force behind it apart from rumours that the Gujjars were spreading covid. The amount of anger all over Punjab added to the willingness of Hindu organisations to join the boycott should ensure it's success.