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Try harder. It's a waste of time and emotional effort. Learn a practical skill that you normally pay another person to do (home repair / maintenance, etc) or a martial art to aid fitness. Or just read something. I was a little more than an average gamer but not quite hardcore. I was in my late 20s, mindlessly bashing buttons one day. Opposite from where I was sitting was a mirror. I saw myself, a grown man, playing a video game, and it hit me like a ton of bricks; a tide of overwhelming shame washed over me. "You soft b*****d" I said to myself. Next day I sold my consoles and all my games. One of the best things I ever did. I feel the same about spectator sports such as football. I was heavily into football. I was a proper statistician. I could've told you the teams and squads up to the reserve team of every club in the domestic European leagues. That's hundreds of players! Knocked that 5hit on the head in my early 20s, too. Bread and circuses bukwaas. They get you to invest your heart and soul into this 5hit so that you ignore or neglect the actual important stuff you need to be aware of. Moderation isn't the issue at all. It's all corporate cr4p that chips away at your aatma.

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Come on man, these are 13 year old girls. You have no clue at all at that age about the world and its dangers. You are a child at this age. This is paedophilia plain and simple. You can't blame the victims in cases like this. And the 50 year old perverts knew what they were doing was wrong.

Apne will still serve Langar to suls in Kashmir, Dubai and Delhi like a bunch of simpletons. It's like the kid in school who gives away free sweets so that all the other kids like him and more importantly don't beat him up. Pathetic really.

As requested, my story in detail: So as I mentioned, during my younger years my mum had me involved in the gurdwara and I would probably go atleast once a week if not more. All the usual gurdwara trips and gurmukh camps used to be part of my normal life. I would play football with the lads from the gurdwara and would be active in social events. I am mona and whilst I reflect back and wish I had stuck with that crowd, I realise there was a part of me that felt like I didnt fit in (because I was mona). I naturally started hanging around with a different crowd which was all good at the time but I now realise that being around these people instilled some horrible traits within myself. We were very judgemental and got kicks from making fun out of others. I should probably also mention that my knowledge on sikhi was limited. I spent alot of time at the gurdwara but with no real understanding or connection to waheguru. We all came from similar households i.e. religious mothers / grandmothers but dads who drank heavily and as we grew in to our teens, drinking became natural. My first drink was with my dad. I then hit the age of 18 where I was at college. I was able to drink legally but I also started smoking weed. At the time, it was all about image. It was all about fitting in and what people perceived of me. I wanted to be seen as somebody tough to avoid being bullied (was bullied at a younger age). I managed to get through college and enrolled on to university where the weed addiction escalated. I had drifted away from the gurdwara and sikhi. A normal day for me was waking up at 11am, eat, work at my part time job and then evenings i would spend the money I had earned to smoke 3-4 spliffs and repeat again the next day. At this point in my life, something happened within our household which just made me spiritually sick for many years. A member of my family was groomed by muslims and everything around me fell apart. The dynamics in my family changed, relationships changed, we were receiving threats from muslims - I lost complete faith in everything and I lost all trust in everyone. This experience amplified my use of drinks and drugs. When I reached my last exam at uni, things had got so bad at home that I didnt want to go to my graduation and I had to get away from the city I live in. As an escape, I went to stay with my mama for 6 weeks in the US. The first day I got there I just cried. Running away from my problems had not worked. However, I believe that trip was meant to happen as it brought me back to Sikhi. My mama is a gursikh and wears a dastaar and he showed me how powerful waheguru could be. He taught me values that I still live on with today and it was from there that I started to read in to sikhi again. I came back from the US and surprise surprise nothing had changed by me running away. My mama sent me home with a gutka sahib with english translation and one day I was so broken inside that I sat down and did paath looking for answers. It was an amazing experience. Everything that I had carried around for years felt like it had been lifted. I remember feeling a sensation inside of me which the only way I can describe it as is a light. I was beaming and felt like I had been lifted somewhere. I started working to get by, but there was a complete lack of motivation as I still felt resentful about the hand I had been dealt. The money that I earned was spent on going out, buying bottles in clubs, drugs, women, stag dos and so on. I was still very conscious about my image as by now many people were aware of the problems at home so I felt I still had to show face and show that I was ready to battle with anyone who wanted it. I would fight alot and in a weird way get a kick out of it. As this lifestyle continued, I was introduced to cocaine. My reputation had grown with fighting and we were known as the go to people when you had trouble. Cocaine was something that only the 'top' lads used back then as its expensive and was not used like it is today. By this time, the people I had surrounded myself with were all dealers / club owners / 'rough' lads. Cocaine was so easily available to me and it quickly became a habit that grew on all of us. At first, it was just for fun, every now and again. It soon got to a point where it became a necessity after a drink. A typical night in the pub would be a few pints and countless bags of cocaine. We were doing this almost on a daily basis - thinking we were the top lads - LOL! makes me laugh now because its so far from what I believe a toplad is now. I can honestly say after a few years of living my life like this, this addiction brought me down on my knees. I had lost complete power and control over my drinking and using. I knew it, but I didnt know how to stop it. I would complete sober periods for maybe 1 or 2 months at maximum but it would never last. It was during this phase of my life that I started searching for help. I joined sikhsangat to see if there was people out there who were going through similar situations in our community. Through sikhsangat, my attention refocused on sikhi. I started watching a lot of basics of sikhi videos which really helped but they alone could not keep me sober. i was able to stay sober for longer but would always end up back on here feeling suicidal and looking for someone else to fix me. I eventually lost myself again and stopped using this site. I spent many years searching for answers and stuck in this cycle. I was up to my eyes in debt, and I was dead inside. I wanted the cycle to end and thought the only way would be to end my own life. I couldnt live with this powerlessness. I couldnt live with being such a disappointment and hurting everyone around me. Then one morning after a heavy night on drink and drugs, I had rang in sick to work (this was normal for me). I had enough. I searched for help online and found myself on the alcoholics anonymous page. I was so ashamed of reaching out to them that when they rang me back I ignored their calls and luckily they persisted and rang back the next day. This is where my journey to recovery started. Im not on here to preach about Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) but my story is that this programme worked for me. There is one thing that I think has been my saviour in all of this. In AA, they say that you need to have a higher power of your own understanding - for me, this was waheguru. Everyday I would do mool mantar in the morning, meditate , do a gratitude and inventory list (as the programme advises). I truly believe that without me bowing down to waheguru in the morning and handing myself over to waheguru, I would not be here today. Today, my life is completely different. I am married and have a loving and caring wife, I have relationships with people around me that addiction had taken away from me, I am spiritually connected to waheguru, I have cleared all my financial debts and I have a successful job and career which I excel in. These are all things that in addiction, I never believed I could have. With wahegurus kirpa, everything I wished for came true. I hope this helps someone out there. I am here to help others suffering now with wahegurus backing. Message me anytime

So I've been lurking on the forum as a guest for a few weeks and I am absolutely appalled by the response of the far left to this issue. I was actually meaning on starting a similar thread on this topic and still probably will as I have so much to show and say. It's mindsets like SinghPunjabSingh that are actually a part of the problem. The racism from said community is much much more widespread than he thinks as this is happening in the UK too and is not at all limited to a handful of crackheads as suggested. No, this does not mean we should start 'hating' the community (I have to say this because brainwashed people will see this and think it means I am saying it is an excuse to hate them), but it 110 per cent needs to be called out!!! We should be able to call it out without being shamed. You have black drill artists in the UK using 'Paki' in their songs now too which is basically the N word for Asians. You have many racial attacks on Asians from Blacks in the UK let alone the USA (on East Asians and South Asians alike). But as I said, I am working on presenting how bad the issue is and why it is how it is so I am going to be starting a new thread in the coming week or so.

It is not non-Muslim countries that actively invite Muslims in, it is the liberals in these countries that emotionally backmail the rest of the population into allowing Muslim migration in and shout 'racist!' if there is any voice which wants to restrict their migration into non-Muslims countries. In Punjab it is the same, it is liberal organisations that started the trend to build Mosques for them and started the propaganda that they are 'beecharay' Countries that have voted in right wing governments understand the danger of Muslim migrations, countries such as Hungary, Poland and Serbia. Countries with Muslim populations already have tried various methods such as expulsion like Myanmar and De-Islamification like China has. It would be interesting to see how the first group of countries fare in the next few decades compared to the second group.

The fact that you can equate these two sells outs with Deep Sidhu shows that you have have a very superficial understanding of this issue. That in itself in this day and age when information is available at the click of a button is criminal in my view.

With Akaal Purakh's kirpa another sant sipahi is amongst us. Amritpal Singh. Thousands have gathered / do gather for Amrit after listening to his prachaars. Leader of Waris Punjab De party.

Isnt it sad to see their roots being cut off? What do you guys think? Sikhi is ending in afghanistan. Also I hope they are able to keep their sikhi intact while living in a completely different religous and cultural country like mexico.

people have become used to comfort in first world countries. The smallest inconvenience happens and they act like the world is ending. Imagine how these people will act when something big actually happens? These people have forgotten nothing is permanent.

Bloody hell, grow up and move on. Do you see people in any civilised developed society talking about how their grandfather or Great grand father was a farmer, carpenter, shop keeper, soldier and being overly proud about it? It's pathetic.

Don't think it's related to badals veerji. In my previous posts and in posts by other Sangat members a few years ago, they mentioned about how Khalsa Raj is in our lifetime. Many people like to dismiss this unfortunately and have no faith in Bachans of Mahapurakhs. What They tell us is just the end result. Khalsa Raj is going to happen in our lifetime, but when many people hear this they think we are referring to it happening magically without any work. All the events that are happening now are towards preparation of Khalsa Raj and all of these are in Vaheguru ji's khel. Bad times will be for those who do tyranny Bhul Chuk Maf ji Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh ji

I think you need to step back and put your ego in check @shastarSingh. Referring to Baba Nand Singh Ji with such little respect isn't in your interest. These Mahapursh have contributed to Sikhi in ways we can't put a number to. Inspiring people to follow Sikhi in a genuine way and igniting the joy of bhagati is not an easy task. You can lump all intellectuals gyanis and parcharks on one side and they can never inspire the way a mahapursh Sant mahatma can. Don't take this the wrong way, we need all the intellectuals we can get, but their domain is never going to extend into the realms of these rarest of the rare type mahapurshs. You need approach these panthic matters with more grace. There is a way of offering constructive criticism without insulting. You need to refine these skills before speaking beyond your scope. Also, current Nanaksar as an institution is a complex matter, and also separate from Baba Nand Singh Ji.

Indian origin faiths don't have the cunningness, hatred and aggression to deal with Abrahamic faith's especially Islam. Malaysia and Indonesia were once Hindu/Buddhists and now they are overwhelmingly Muslim. Islam wants to conquer, they see secularism as a weakness to expose and when Muslims become a majority they impose sharia which forbids the populace from leaving Islam. So it's a one way win win situation for them. You can never have a Liberal attitude towards them or it will come back to bite you.

It was the lived experience of millions of Sikhs. I would venture that Arjan Singh was a more articulate, sophisticated and adventurous person than someone like you who gets triggered at any mention of Sikhs in the army in WW1 or WW2. Whatever your views about him, he deserves to be honoured as do all those Sikhs who left Punjab to fight in both world wars. Another 'illiterate pendu' I found apparently this 'pendu' went on earn a PhD and fought the racist citizenship policies of the USA.

These kinds of petitions don't work. If we had more unity, then all the Gurdwaras should declare her persona non grata. They should declare that they will not engage with any ministers or any conservative MPs or candidates unless Priti Patel is sacked. That would be much for effective than a petition. Priti Patel is a joke, she has been a total failure on the migrants coming on boats from France.

Pakistanis in the USA are simply in far fewer numbers than the UK. White Americans are probably less likely to take any nonsense from them as well, most of them have guns. Even if more Mirpuris are involved than Pakjabis, both Mirpuris and Pakjabis hang out at school and are likely to influence each other. I cannot emphasise this enough - Islam comes before any silly concept of Punjabayat, which only laloo Sikhs believe in.

Punjab has a very old history. What we are taught in school about hindu and Hinduism is mostly lies. Punjab was part of the indus civilization and today we are in clash with the ganges civilization. We are taught a history that doesnt even belong to us. Punjab has a very old history starting from ancient persia. The punjabi language is very old and has evolved since then. The people of the ganges hate the indus civilization and are hell bent on destroying the punjabi language in both east and west punjab. In their hatred of sikhs these west punjabi adopted a language called urdu which is the language of the ganges plain from which hindi was made for the hindus.Brainwashed people giving up their language and culture.

We keep falling for the same trap each and every time. A Sikh who tries to lift the Panth and Punjab out of his deep and endless abyss we entered into many decades ago will always face more opposition from apnay than even our enemies. All those who are questioning how Amritpal Singh has achieved so much support and a base is Punjab do not understand the power of social media. Social media has caused revolutions in many countries such as the Arab Spring, do these people not know how much social media influences our community in Punjab. The youth these are very engaged with social media and social media has been used to create branches of supporters in many villages and this they are able to mobilise the youth to attend rallies with Amritpal Singh. Simranjit Singh Mann's victory was very much due to the use of social media by our youth. Another reason why Amritpal Singh has captured centre stage is that the Panth and especially the youth have in the last few years become much more grounded in reality and started to cleanse itself of the liberal BS that the likes of Ravi Singh and United Sikhs have bought into Sikhi. He talks unapologetically about how he wants Khalsa Raj just as Hindus openly talk of Hindu Rashtra, the youth wanted a leader who talks in such a manner and not some pyjamay talking constantly about helping others and Sarbat Da Bhalla. The opposition to Amritpal Singh is because he has done more for the Panth in the last few months than all our paper tigers combined in the last three decades. Look at Kuki Gill, he has been badmouthing Amritpal Singh for the last few weeks because since his release in 2009 his achievements for the Panth have been a big fat zero. He keeps harping on about how he sacrificed his career and how he is so highly educated as if no other Kharkoo sacrificed their entire families for the Panth and all he has sacrificed is his career.

He's not. Don't make assumptions without knowing anything about him. Read about him and watch his videos. Look at his socials from years before, he's always been like this and had those opinions. Don't give him the treatment that a lot of Punjabis and Sikhs gave Deep Sidhu calling him a government agent.

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh ji Das has started a YouTube channel where all types of keertan including raag and akj will be uploaded. Other Sikh related videos will also be uploaded. Just wanted to share with the Sangat so that we can all take Anand of keertan together Bhul Chuk Maf ji ? https://youtube.com/channel/UCMkGkUv8dFNFN5WM6tB0oMQ

bhai preetam singh jee chani .They did akaal chlaana last year only.

The religion that breeds extremism is defended and protected from being labelled as such by a certain brand of SIKH, but Sikhs advocating for self-interests are labelled as budding... terrorists and extremists by SIKHS. This is some paagal world going on here. Our paggs are too tight and Fixo has hardened our beards, making our faces stiff, constricting the oxygen to our brains, because I can't think of anything else to explain this nonsense.

No one here or anywhere I know is stating that 50 million African Americans are racist to Indians/Asians lol. What we are highlighting is that there is a minority (I hope!) of black people WHO ARE very racist to Indians/Asians and this is not limited to a 'a couple of crackheads with mental issues that were caused by the White man' lol. There have been too many documented cases of this occurring over the decades and I and many others have personally experienced what I am talking about. It seems you have skimmed over everything in this thread since you last posted and only just repeated yourself. To bury your head in the sand about this issue and to not hold those account responsible is a very very dangerous stance to take and you are putting further Asian lives at risk. Sikh Coalition did not do it because of that, they did it because they are scared little Indians with no backbone and/or deluded. Blacks remain the 2nd largest perpetrators of hate crime in both the US and UK after whites. Significant sections of their communities have a very serious racism problem. These are official government facts.

Because that's what other US Sikhs have reported. It's not hard to look through first-hand accounts. One of the Sikh elderly who got attacked described his attacker as 'kaala' and OFC some retarded liberal Sikh got upset LMAO. He said we shouldn't call them kaala. Like LMAO our elderly man just got brutally attacked and that's what you're concerned about. BLM is cancer. This whole 'minority unison' is CANCER. If black people ever got in charge, as we see in South Africa, they will attack and isolate minorities. Whites and Indians are heavily scared of black people in South Africa.

The facts are the following pertaining to these particular incidents: 1. Sikh elders have been attacked by black criminals. 2. We, as a community, have a right to describe the racial and ethnic background of the attackers. We'd do it if was Muslims, Mexicans, Whites, whatever. Everything else is f****g fantasy, American-Marxist bull5hit. For "Sikh" organisations to GASLIGHT Sikhs in an insidious attempt at extreme political correctness that places us under threat of further harm is f****g EVIL. Anyone who tries to "Marxplain" and "Whatabout" their way out of confronting the reality of this problem is not a friend of Sikhs.

What a coincidence. My homicidal tendencies are attracted to "minor attracted individuals" ... it's all just love.. oneness...with my blade and a can full of gas. It's all good baby. Oneness. Yeah anything goes.... let's go.

For every Muslim ‘ drop out ‘ there are 1,000 new Muslims being popped out of the womb

Way to take something sacred and reduce it to nothing while also contributing no information regarding the sutuation. Well done.

I think that when people get married that there should be vetting against the families you are marrying into.

When we look at the reduced muslim birth rate after education, we are looking at 6 children to 3 or 4 children. When our parents had siblings, they were big families with 5-6 brothers and sisters. But they decided to have 2-3 children and that is without being educated. The next generation after that with education have 1-2 children. What does this tell you? Muslim religion is more collectivist in that group think is more important. The educated Muslim female will do what is for the greater good of their deen and their ummah. Us Sikhs are more individualist than Muslims, our educated Sikh women will not do the same for our quam.

The philosophy on which he bases his charity work is inconsistent at best. It panders to a particular minority that doesn't require "Khalsa aid" because the Ummah is more than capable of providing for its own, which leads me to suspect the whole thing is either an ill-conceived vanity project or - allegedly - a high-level money laundering / trafficking operation considering Singh's ties to the British military. Does he Tweet? Is he particularly Left-leaning or apolitical?

1. No 2. Emphatically not! 3. Not really - how holy could a City where Muslims were the majority before 1947 (and Hindu's are the majority since 1947) possibly be? 4. It is not essential (after all Amritsar is not our version of Mecca or Benares as Sikhi opposes the "pilgrimage" concept) 5. In terms of what Harmandir Sahib means to the Qaum it is "primus inter pares" (first among equals) for what it means to our Itihaas but if you matha tek before Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj at any other Gurdwara in the world daily that is in no way any less a positive and equal blessing. PS: I will answer your other posts as soon as I can later and just by answering your questions does not mean I know more than you. We are all students (Sikhs). And yes I'm including as fellow students even the moneh you hate so much!

Yes but people take advantage of our generosity, it can't all be one way traffic.

There is also a thread from last year about a Hindu fighting to get legislation passed to get ‘Jhatka meat’ labelled similar to Halal Meat in eateries in Punjab. I know this is controversial, but at least by doing this, individuals will get a choice of whether they wish to line the pockets of Muslim businesses, that effectively will end up funding their religious cause and agenda. I can see this being a positive step which would drive our peoples businesses and if applied to Milk this would open up opportunities for Punjabi Sikhs who wish to enter the dairy industry. A simple identifiable mark would enable them to this and rid Punjab of negative foreign invaders.

Wherever our people are targetted, our dastars are targetted. It is known whether it is a Hindu or Muslim to go for our dastar and kes. Then we ask ourselves the question ," we thought us Sardars were so respected" We think it is through our good deeds that we were respected. No, it was through violence we were respected. It is through fear that Hindus and Muslims respect. They have lost fear. There is a Macchiavelli quote that says , " It is better to be feared than loved" Whenever I see the T-Shirts worn by our Singhs that says " Feared by none, Fear no one", I cringe because a little bit of fear for us goes a long way. We have been the nail for too long, we have to become a hammer once more.

How did you find the time in your schedule to post in this thread? I thought you had an appointment at the barber shop today.

OK, now contrast with the Ukraine situation. In this invasion, 400-2000 Ukrainians have been killed, according to Ukrainian Govt (who knows, but let's go with that). Meanwhile, at least 3000 Sikhs killed in Delhi in 1984. Thousands elsewhere, plus who knows how many more later on in Punjab. And basically not a peep from world governments. No taking over the entirety of a half-hour or hour news show to talk about Sikhs. No marches, no kesri flags on lapel pins. Was the Sikh situation discussed in the UN security council?? So that's why we don't really need to bother with this situation. Wake me up when the world cares a whit about Sikhs dying.

Of those Sikhs in the Punjab Vidhan Sabha we have a higher calibre of Panthic type Sikhs than the fakes like the Badals, Majithias, Captains and others. Now no Hindu Har.amzada can say that we Sikhs voted Congress into power in Punjab when it was them that committed genocide on us even though Captain won 2017 on majority Hindu votes and the Sikh vote was split between Akalis and AAP and only a minority of Sikhs voted for Congress.

I think you are being unduly pessimistic. The ideal situation would have been if Simranjit Singh Mann and all his candidates had won but the AAP wave which wasn't really a AAP wave as such it was more of a wave for change. AAP had positioned itself into that narrative as being the only party of change and as such they got the votes. Simranjit Singh Mann and his party in 2015 had the perfect opportunity to become the change even if it was just in the Panthic circles but they did not groundwork. AAP in 2017 and after had become a joke, it was breaking apart and that would have been the opportunity for Simranjit Singh Mann's party to take over the vacant place but again, no groundwork. Deep Sidhu was able to set up his organisation, Waris Punjab De in a short amount of time and he was able to gather like minded youth and yet Simranjit Singh Mann has never done this. You cannot expect to win elections when the only time you are around is at election time. You need to do the ground work. The youth did the ground work during the elections and especially after Deep Sidhu's shahidi and look at how close they came to ensuring a win for Simranjit Singh Mann. The ground work was being done by the youth. Even up to election day, Waris Punjab De according to reports were getting phone calls from all over Punjab from the youth asking who the SAD(A) candidates were in their areas because they were not even aware that there were any standing in their areas! This just shows just how much ground work had not been done in the time prior to the election. We also need to understand that there are forces within the Panthic side who are either naive or who aim to sabotage the movement from within. Look at Dal Khalsa, they want Khalistan but they do not want to take part in elections BUT also they have rejected the armed struggle. These are the only two avenues that exist for national liberation movements. By rejecting both they have ensured that they are only good for making statements and handing memorandums at the DC office! They want to reject the legitimacy of the state by rejecting elections and yet they give memorandums to the functionaries of the state! To the elections These elections have shown two things-; 1. Unlike previous occasions when our people showed anger towards a party especially the Badal Akalis but then they always went back to support them after a few years, this had changed. The Beadbi issue and the Bargari killings are still issues whereas in previous times we would have quickly forgotten about these after some time. The Panthic vote that the Badal Akalis lost to AAP in 2017 was mostly in Malwa but this time they lost the Panthic vote to AAP all over Punjab. That vote in still Panthic so the next time that vote is there to be won by a Panthic party. These people haven't suddenly become Lalas and leftists. The Badal Akali Dal is finished for sure. There now needs to be a new realignment, Simranjit Singh Mann needs to now work with the youth especially Waris Punjab De to start doing the groundwork for possibly the Lok Sabha election to Sangrur constituency which Bhagwant Mann will need to resign as MP from in order to become CM. It might be too early to win that seat but he needs a good showing and with the possible AAP candidate not having the same profile as Bhagwant Mann, Simranjit Singh Mann needs to consolidate his party's 110,000 votes in the Sangrur constituency and increase these with the help of the youth. Again, the ground work has to be done. 2. AAP has never been tested in government, in Delhi Kejriwal is able to use the excuse that he does not have full state powers for his failures. Punjab will be the true test of the governing ability. Let's see if he can keep his promises. As for the Panth, the fact that there are according to my count the religion wise break up of the MLAs in Punjab, this shows that Sikhs are still the vast majority of the MLAs. Congress - Sikhs 13 - Hindus 5 72% Sikh MLAs. AAP - Sikhs 73 - Hindus 12 - Muslim 1 79% Sikh MLAs Akali Dal - Sikhs 2 - Hindu /Dalit 1 66% Sikh MLAs BJP - Sikhs 0 - Hindus 2 0% Sikh MLAs BSP - Dalit/Hindu - 1 0% Sikh MLAs Independent - Sikh 1 100% Sikh MLAs This means that in the Punjab Vidhan Sabha of 2022, Sikhs will be 88 out of 117 MLAs or 75% This is one of the positives of the elections, all those leftists and Hindus claiming that the AAP win was for a secular Punjab don't have a clue about what is going on in Punjab. The Panthic vote wanted to defeat the Badal Akalis which they did and they wanted to keep the BJP out which they did. The Punjabi Hindu and leftist dream of a Hindu CM is dead. The rejection of those Sikhs who stood on the BJP ticket shows just how exaggerated and hollow the claim of the BJP to have won over Sikhs in Punjab was. Any Sikh who wants the best for the Panth needs to look at the facts and not get carried away by the propaganda of our enemies. The BJP Lalas before the elections were claiming online that a vote for AAP was a vote for Khalistan. After AAP won they changed their tune and now are claiming that Khalistanis lost because the 'Indian Sikhs' voted for a Hindu from Delhi to be their leader!! It is sad that Simranjit Singh Mann lost but true revolutions are not forged in a few days, the ground work that the youth did has to be replicated many fold in the coming years before we will see a Panthic Akali Dal win by the same numbers as AAP did. With the Punjab political scene so fragmented, all that is needed is for Panthic Sikhs to not only re-create a Panthic Akali Dal minus the Badals but also to take back the SGPC from the Badals.

Indian colonial policies in Punjab exactly mirror the British colonial policies in India. Just as it was in the British economic interest to turn India into a raw materials suppliers which could then be exported to Britain and then the value added finished goods in British factories which could then be sent to India to be sold, in the same way Indian colonialism keeps Punjab a underdeveloped agricultural colony. Hindi imperialism is just one aspect of Indian colonialism. In the globalised world, Punjabis have more need for a language like English than Hindi. The only two languages than matter in Punjab should be Punjabi and English.

The problem is some of our people think that reading paath is all there is to Sikhism. It's not! We'd been instructed from the time of Guru Angad Dev Ji to be fit, and from Guru Hargobind Ji to do martial arts training. Why are we so dense?

The higher caste Punjabi Hindus, the Bahmans, Khatri/Arora and the Bania has always been anti-Sikh and anti-Punjab to the core. Our leadership has failed to recognise that the Punjabi Hindu is deeply split even more so than our people. The Badal Akalis in 1997 by aligning themselves with the BJP which is the party of higher caste Hindu interests gave this section of the Punjabi Hindus a taste of power in Punjab which after 1966 they had never had. Simranjit Singh Mann's Akali Dal had supported the BSP and Kanshi Ram. Now the Badal Akalis after leaving the BJP have aligned with the BSP so it will interesting to see if the BSP made any gains from it. If you read the names of the Hindus who spread the most anti-Sikh vitriol, it will always be a Sharma, Verma, Bhardwaj etc - all Bahman surnames. The problem with our Panthic leadership is that they have never aligned with a section of the Punjabi Hindus with whom we have common interests. The Hindu Dalits and the Hindu agricultural castes. Together these form over 15% of the population of Punjab. The attack of the RW Hindus have been to divide Sikhs by using their narrative that Jat Sikhs have been killing and raping Dalits with impunity in Punjab so as to divide our people. Even some of our muppets with an agenda also latch on this and have been spreading this BS online. The area where the Hindu Dalits have dominance in Doaba is the place where Dalits are in direct competition with the urban Hindu and not the rural Sikh. These Dalits don't consider themselves Hindus and are anti-Hindutva. They should be our natural allies. We should go back to our anti-Manuvadi origins. Here is the typical Punjabi Hindu upper caste trying to demonise the Sikh majority to the rest of India.

If they don't care about underage white girls being exploited by gangs of men, how can we expect them to protect our community? What can we do? The police are complicit - the police force has always attracted sociopaths, perverts and thugs from all walks of life.

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I also remember having an Egyptian colleague at university in the mid 2000s who would always talk badly about Pakistanis to me. Saying that Pakistanis are ruining the name of Muslims with their extremism and terrorism. Lo and behold the same extremism and terrorism became rampant in Egypt with church bombings etc. There really is not much difference between them.

I couldn't care less if a sul is from Mirpur, Lahore, Karachi, Dhaka, Kabul, Delhi, Algiers, Casablanca. A sul is still a sul. They all exhibit similar behaviour and have little respect for those from other faiths. So much arrogance. This thread reminds me of when some Hindus and Sikh people have said to me that Indian Muslims are better than Pakistanis. I simply tell them that the only difference is that they are a minority in India and they cannot do much with their numbers. I then tell them to look at how Indian Muslims behave when they do become a majority in an area - Kashmir. All minorities are thrown out or harassed.

I'm glad you're pointing this out. For some bizarre reason a lot of apnay seem keen to (wrongly) dump all of this on mirpuri shoulders. Right now, a lot of communities are involved in targeting apneean. This includes pak-punjabis but also afghans/pathaans, arab groups and even eastern europeans gangs. These guys swap girls between their 'stables'. Now that there has been so much publicity given to white victims of grooming (and a right wing reaction), the perpetrators will increase their focus on apneean, as the state/media has sent out the message that they are fair game.